ID Help Needed

Planetmacro · 01/13/2019, 02:48 AM

I thought this fish was A. clarkii. Others on RC believe it is allardi but allardi has a white tail. The pair came from a Maldives shipment. Any thoughts?
https://youtu.be/n_mamGlHpdg

Planetmacro · 01/13/2019, 02:51 AM

https://youtu.be/8dnM3lCCsS0

Planetmacro · 01/13/2019, 02:53 AM

https://youtu.be/lc-rj-jLF2g

MarinaP · 01/14/2019, 07:53 PM

I think it is a clarkii, too. One of those regional variants. He will loose the white on the tail, or it will be very thin stripe. I think he is a juvi and melanistic right now. Let’s see how they mature. I can also see where allardi guess is coming from. Juvis are the toughest to ID. Give it time.

http://web.archive.org/web/200708300...on/clarkii.htm

Planetmacro · 01/14/2019, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MarinaP

I think it is a clarkii, too. One of those regional variants. He will loose the white on the tail, or it will be very thin stripe. I think he is a juvi and melanistic right now. Let’s see how they mature. I can also see where allardi guess is coming from. Juvis are the toughest to ID. Give it time.

http://web.archive.org/web/200708300...on/clarkii.htm

I agree, I think all three are clarkii varieties. I see so many juvenile clownfish at the importers that I can't positively identify and you can't always know with certainty were they were collected. If I have the room I buy several clownfish juvies from the same shipment that look alike. Ultimately I try to figure out what they are. There are more undescribed species than the current 27 or so.

hottuna · 01/15/2019, 03:54 AM

I don't care what they are...but if you ever decide to part with them...put me first on the list...anemone and all !! lol

Ron Popeil · 01/15/2019, 10:23 AM

still only seeing allardi with these fish. i think that head stripe is unmistakable with that species.

additionally, in my experience, all clarkii have a complete tail stripe even as juveniles. the broken tail stripe is definitely a feature of allardi (and other similar fish like chrysopterus, which these are not.)

Planetmacro · 01/15/2019, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hottuna

I don't care what they are...but if you ever decide to part with them...put me first on the list...anemone and all !! lol

Don't worry, I'm still looking for that XXL bicinctus for you!

hottuna · 01/15/2019, 02:50 PM

Great...my little male is getting lonely...

LargeAngels · 01/15/2019, 06:32 PM

I agree with Marina. A clarkii area variant is my guess also. I think there are a lot more variants of the “clarkii” family out there. Just look how many chrysopterus variants there are. The more collecting areas are explored the more we will find.

randygonza · 02/10/2019, 07:02 PM

clarkii

01/13/2019, 02:48 AM	#1
Planetmacro Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 160	ID Help Needed I thought this fish was A. clarkii. Others on RC believe it is allardi but allardi has a white tail. The pair came from a Maldives shipment. Any thoughts? https://youtu.be/n_mamGlHpdg Last edited by Planetmacro; 01/13/2019 at 02:54 AM.

01/14/2019, 07:53 PM	#4
MarinaP Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 3,489	I think it is a clarkii, too. One of those regional variants. He will loose the white on the tail, or it will be very thin stripe. I think he is a juvi and melanistic right now. Let’s see how they mature. I can also see where allardi guess is coming from. Juvis are the toughest to ID. Give it time. http://web.archive.org/web/200708300...on/clarkii.htm __________________ Marina Last edited by MarinaP; 01/14/2019 at 08:05 PM.

01/15/2019, 03:54 AM	#6
hottuna Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,248	I don't care what they are...but if you ever decide to part with them...put me first on the list...anemone and all !! lol __________________ HotTuna

01/15/2019, 10:23 AM	#7
Ron Popeil Love them clownfish. Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Vero Beach, FL Posts: 2,268	still only seeing allardi with these fish. i think that head stripe is unmistakable with that species. additionally, in my experience, all clarkii have a complete tail stripe even as juveniles. the broken tail stripe is definitely a feature of allardi (and other similar fish like chrysopterus, which these are not.) __________________ ...he came with a razor blade bound, like us all, for the ocean... Current Tank Info: 150 DD

01/15/2019, 02:50 PM	#9
hottuna Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,248	Great...my little male is getting lonely... __________________ HotTuna

01/13/2019, 02:51 AM	#2
Planetmacro Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 160	https://youtu.be/8dnM3lCCsS0

01/13/2019, 02:53 AM	#3
Planetmacro Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 160	https://youtu.be/lc-rj-jLF2g

01/15/2019, 06:32 PM	#10
LargeAngels Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,651	I agree with Marina. A clarkii area variant is my guess also. I think there are a lot more variants of the “clarkii” family out there. Just look how many chrysopterus variants there are. The more collecting areas are explored the more we will find.

02/10/2019, 07:02 PM	#11
randygonza Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 13	clarkii