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12/01/2008, 09:03 PM | #26 |
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source: http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u...article_id=478
if you don't need to use all the dosing from one ampoule, what do you do? Prodibio said you can remove the desired amount from the ampoule with a syringe, then put the ampoule upright into a slice of potato, in the fridge for about a week. |
12/02/2008, 08:18 PM | #27 |
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my tank has been set up for over 2 years and i am starting dosing on monday, should i do it weekly and then slowly reduce to every 15 days?
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12/09/2008, 05:24 PM | #28 |
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Just ordered the BioClean kit from Marine Depot. It has 6 vials of BioDigest and 6 vials of BioOptum.
That should get me started and then I'll begin the ReefBooster at about 4 weeks out. Should I continue feeding my corals and fish in my usual manner (fish 3x a day and corals at night)? Also, do I remove my Phosguard reactor now that I'll start the Prodibio? I was told this by someone recently.... What do you guys do? Thanks! |
12/09/2008, 05:32 PM | #29 |
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I have keep my PO4 reactor and my GAC reactor online during dosing.
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12/09/2008, 09:07 PM | #31 |
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I just finished my 6th "dose" of Biodigest on Sat and Bioptim on Sun. I disconnected my PO4 reactor 4 weeks ago. At that time my PO4 was 0.02 via Hanna photometer. I have checked it every week since and my readings have been at 0.01. Just checked it tonight and still at 0.01. I feel I no longer need it and will not waste $$ on the media anymore. No need for it.
Next week I switch to alternating the digest and optim every other week and begin weekly doses of Reefbooster. My corals have lightened slightly over the past 6 weeks. I continue to run GAC and change it monthly. I also dose Zeo aminos on M-W-F and Zeo Coral Vitalizer daily. I feed my corals DT Oyster eggs once/wk and feed fish 1-2x/daily. This is basically my normal feeding regime. I didn't change anything when I began Prodi. I have also been dosing Zeo Phols xtra, K-balance and B-balance the whole time ( I was dosing the Zeo stuff for ~3 months so I didn't stop). I am very happy with my results in my tank and am looking fwd to the long term improvments over the next 6 mos or so. FWII Prodi is a very slow process if dosed correctly with minimal risk of foul. This is why I went this route vs ZEO or other similar. HTH BTW it was sooooo hard keeping myself from dosing the booster earlier but I did and could not be more pleased with my results thus far. Good luck.
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just purchased Bio Clean and reefboosters, but im hearing a lote of confliction information on how to apply it. I have a 34 gallon Red Sea max, so my doses are much smaller than each ampoule, how do i know how much to use?
Also when the glass is broker will it spoil or can i save for next dose?? question applies to (reefbooster & Bio Clean system) Also i read that your dkh must be below 8 in order to start dosing Bio Clean system, or it can burn your sps... Can anyone shed some light on this before i start dosing?? My Params as of 12/8/08 Alk = 10.9 PH - 8.0-8.1 Calcium =450 Magnesium = 1450 Phosphates = 0ppm Nitrates =10-20 ppm Salinity =1.023-24 (based on calibration fluid at 35ppt.) Orp = 119 im battling a brown and green algea (diatom bloom during photo periods) and i see some cyano making its way. I have always had a problem with high N03, im trying the Matrix and denitrate at the moment and it seems to be slowly lowering N03 but not fast enough.. besides i want to eliminate filter media. thanx |
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My alk is 11-12 and I use Biodigest with no issues.
Also check the ampules they say on Biodigest that one amp is good for "UP TO" 1,000 l. So anything up to that amount of total system volume you would use 1 ampule. |
12/09/2008, 11:39 PM | #34 |
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just purchased Bio Clean and reefboosters, but im hearing a lote of confliction information on how to apply it. I have a 34 gallon Red Sea max, so my doses are much smaller than each ampoule, how do i know how much to use?
Also when the glass is broker will it spoil or can i save for next dose?? question applies to (reefbooster & Bio Clean system) Also i read that your dkh must be below 8 in order to start dosing Bio Clean system, or it can burn your sps... Can anyone shed some light on this before i start dosing?? My Params as of 12/8/08 Alk = 10.9 PH - 8.0-8.1 Calcium =450 Magnesium = 1450 Phosphates = 0ppm Nitrates =10-20 ppm Salinity =1.023-24 (based on calibration fluid at 35ppt.) Orp = 119 im battling a brown and green algae (diatom bloom during photo periods) and i see some cyano coming also. I have always had a problem with high N03, im trying the Matrix and denitrate at the moment and it seems to be slowly lowering N03 but not fast enough.. and im looking to eliminate filter media. I want to get started asap, but dont have enought confidence.. thanx |
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sorry for the double post, but it wasnt showing up on my end for a minute
anyway, that dose amount seems like waay too much, |
12/09/2008, 11:51 PM | #36 |
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Also Paul are you using the Bioptim as well??
To me it looks like the Bio Digest will last forever but the bioptim will need replacement in about 3 months.. what would you suggest as a starting point for using bio clean system? |
12/09/2008, 11:59 PM | #37 |
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Ace1,
Im going to use it on my 28 gal JBJ. I was planning on using a third of an amp and coving it in plastic and putting it in the fridge to keep it longer.. not sure if it will work but hopefully it will. The nano kit included to much stuff for me to need it. Plus, I dont see a reason why it wouldnt keep in the amp.. its doesnt expire or anything.
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12/10/2008, 12:03 AM | #38 |
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I don't run the complete system. I use Biodigest and dose alcohol.
I use what the box says for Biodigest. 1 amp for up to 264 gallons every 15 days ( I have 105 gallons total). The directions for Bio Trace says 1 amp for up to 52 gallons every 2 days. According to that you would use one amp every 2 days. |
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acpoweradapter: That sounds like a good idea , but Paul is confusing me because it still doesnt address the issue of using too much, one ampoul in a 34 gallon could be overkill??
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Well,
Not sure what I'm gonna do? I think I may discontinue the Phosguard that I'm running and just run carbon in my Phosban reactor (instead of both) once I start the Prodibio? Still like to here feedback from the RC masses on that one I guess. I went and got my Phosphate and Nitrate checked at a LFS since I don't have the kits and lower levels of PO4 never really read out well on home test kits any way. So, here's my params: Salinity= 1.025 PH= 8.15 - 8-4 (drops low at night just started running a reverse photo period) Alk= 9.0 dkh Cal= 410 Mag= 1400 Nitrate= 25(YIKES!) PO4= .01 (checked with a photometer) I was a little confused with the high nitrates and pretty much ZERO PO4??? I'm hoping the Prodibio will bring the nitrates down in line with the PO4 and I'll just continue my heavy feeding schedule of fish and corals! I also started dosing the new Aquavitro "Fuel" along with the coral feedings nightly so, we'll see how things pan out. I am interested in hearing back from anyone dosing Prodibio that's running carbon and a phosphate remover simultaneously? or if they stopped? or whatever..... Just curious before I start, thanks! |
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i dont plan to stop running my Phos reactor with the Bio Digest, but i will get all other media out except carbon...
whenever i feel comfortable running prodibio in my system correctly |
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As with all bacteria driven systems, you do NOT run any phosphate removers. The phosphate remover will out compete the bacteria for nutrients. Carbon on the other hand is fine. Everyone should run carbon. |
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Exactly, acpower...... but i have also read that this stuff CAN be overdosed!! and the box and website does say NOT to overdose....
So im just being careful and wanted to know what others were doing, everything is not cut and dry with any business, (Ask the Banks who everybody trust so dearly a few months ago ;-) and Prodibio IS in Business... and they are based out the country.. So Sorry for the paranoia but i just want to get some answers |
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Sunnyx, What about the high nitrate systems, wouldnt the bacteria feed on that?? as with Daves Reef my N03 is waaay to high but i have no Phos... and i would like to keep it that way.. at least until the bacteria system is in full effect
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Thanks Sonny... Love your new tank by the way!
On the nitrates, is that unusual to have them so high and the phosphates so low as I mention above? I was a bit surprised at this... Quote:
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I would "know" because its not hard to tell when your corals are changing colors especially if you understand your paramenters. I have never had a coral bleach overnight due to low nutrients. I closely inspect my tank on a daily basis.
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Does it matter when you dose whether it's before or after lights or while they are on?
I plan on starting BioDigest, vodka & aminos route for my 200g. BioDigest every 14 days. Vodka daily (currently 6ml daily) and aminos per instructions. For aminos I will be using Elos, Warner Marine & Brightwell Aquatics. Last edited by Nuuze; 12/10/2008 at 12:27 PM. |
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