normanviking

Leopard Wrasse · 07/30/2006, 09:31 PM

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How is the new tank doing?

normanviking · 07/31/2006, 07:28 AM

Ok box is empty now. The tank is going well. Up and running now. 100 lbs of sand. 60 aragnite 40 live sand. Put some live rock in. Got the prurple firefish from Petco yesterday. Doing well so far. Ate right away.

rekn · 07/31/2006, 11:48 AM

what petco sells sw fish?

normanviking · 07/31/2006, 12:16 PM

All that I know of. I go to the one off of Cheyenne.

Leopard Wrasse · 07/31/2006, 12:49 PM

The Petco's on Lake and on Powers both sell
saltwater.

calvin415 · 07/31/2006, 02:23 PM

Deathco off Powers had an ich outbreak in their SW tanks about 4 weeks ago, not sure what they did to correct the issue...

reefkoi · 07/31/2006, 02:48 PM

petco,where the pets go...........to die

ReefJerk · 07/31/2006, 03:41 PM

I personally have NEVER had any fish die that I bought from the PetCo off of Lake. It has been a while since I've been there, but I've always had good luck. The one off Powers looks like a concentration camp/death chamber for fish.

Crit21 · 07/31/2006, 06:39 PM

The Petco on Lake always seems to have at least one SW fish with ich, particularly the large angel species. I've had mixed results with their fish. Whenever I get anything from them I take my time acclimating them to my water.

I do know they use super low SG (1.016 or lower if I remember correctly). I can't remember if they use copper too.

I think the only fish I ever got from them that died were yellow tangs. They would eat but always looked too thin in the stomach, then die. All the rest seemed to do ok.

pouponfrance · 07/31/2006, 07:38 PM

I was there a week ago and the Powers store had pretty sickly looking fish. A yellow tang two minutes from death.

COreefer · 08/01/2006, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crit21
The Petco on Lake always seems to have at least one SW fish with ich, particularly the large angel species. I've had mixed results with their fish. Whenever I get anything from them I take my time acclimating them to my water.

I do know they use super low SG (1.016 or lower if I remember correctly). I can't remember if they use copper too.

I think the only fish I ever got from them that died were yellow tangs. They would eat but always looked too thin in the stomach, then die. All the rest seemed to do ok.

1.016 is not super low SG...besides some of their tanks are run at .020.

I think if you look close enough at every LFS store in town you will find parasites, the only one I know of using preventative measures is seascape with their UV's but still, I have brought home fish from there with the synptoms of cryptocarrens, amyl, etc...no way can these fish come from the distributor without some being infected and infecting others.

I'm not a huge fan of Petco but the Cheyenne Mtn Petco has come along way. The vast majority of their fish are healthy and the sources are similar to where the LFS' get their stuff. They also have a lot of ORA. I would much rather support the local efforts but sometimes Petco gets things others won't. Like right now they have a TR juvi Maculosa angel...you won't find that fish anywhere in town.

murfman · 08/01/2006, 01:32 AM

what is the scientific name on that Maculosa?

normanviking · 08/01/2006, 05:52 AM

I agree with Eric. I would rather support the local LFS, but Petco just gets stuff they do not. I have never seen a purple firefish anywhere else. Bought a carpenters flasher warasse from Seascape the other day. It is still laying on the bottom. Hope it pulls through. Very pretty fish.

rekn · 08/01/2006, 07:00 AM

the petco on uintah doesnt sell sw. i like LFS but i cant afford alot of their prices

COreefer · 08/01/2006, 09:53 AM

Murf,

Pomacanthus Maculosus

castorpollux · 08/01/2006, 10:36 AM

its funny I was at a petco the other day buying crickets for my gf's pet newt... don't ask.

anyways I noticed all the sick fish, and my girlfriend made me buy one (baby blue tang), who's already back in good condition... but anyways, i was talking to the manager about his set-up.

He was complaining about how he could never get the salinity right, and how he has 5 gallons of evaporation a day... yada yada yada... I tested the salinity for him and it was reading 1.035+

After more discussion with the manager I found out this:

Apparently thier corporate offices who also "train" the managers to be "knowlegdable" on subjects involving thier livestock taught him that you are never supposed to top off with RO, only saltwater.

It was the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, I talked to him for a while and explained that by lowering the salinity to 1.017-1.019 it would be less stressful on the fish and gave him a slow way to lower the salinity back to where it needs to be.

I was blown away that the corporate offices teach thier managers things that are that entirely wrong. Its the very basics of where saltwater husbandry starts... SALINITY.

I am assuming that this problem is universal throughout all the Petco's and have been trying to figure out a way to contact the corporate person in charge of thier saltwater standards to have chat. So if you any one knows a contact I would greatly appreciate it.

racer69 · 08/01/2006, 10:59 AM

Not to take the side of Petco, but the store down here has their maintenance and top offs done buy an independent company. Their employees only catch and bag the livestock. The tanks and fish still look horrible, so I don't buy from them. They actually have two 5" purple tangs in a 45 gallon display!

castorpollux · 08/01/2006, 11:27 AM

i also heard that thier wild caught stock was captured through cyanide poisoning? i don't know if its true though...

maybe the tank maintenance revolves around the owner of the particular franchise?

COreefer · 08/01/2006, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by castorpollux
i also heard that thier wild caught stock was captured through cyanide poisoning? i don't know if its true though...

maybe the tank maintenance revolves around the owner of the particular franchise?

Todd, the south side petco in CS has someone who knows a lot about saltwater running it and over the last year it has been night and day in the health of their fish.

As for the cyanide collecting...I know who the distributor is that this south side Petco uses and they are the same source that many LFS' use. I can't speak for the other locations, but there are only one or two wholesale distributors who collect in areas where cyanide is still used. They are waining very quickly...

racer69 · 08/01/2006, 01:05 PM

Maybe some of the franchises are cleaning up their acts and realizing that there is good money in quality live stock.

rmougey · 08/01/2006, 10:57 PM

A note for Murfman.... in case you are considering that cute juvenile tank raised maculosus:

I've always had a soft spot for them and had one many many years ago in a 100 gallon tank. I received an ORA tank raised mac for my birthday about 4 years ago. He was very cute... barely pushing 2". He went to live in my 175 bowfront.

Today, my Dwarf Mac (I still remember him that way) is pushing 12" with streamers. He's a horse.... and his colors are fabulous.

So... if you buy the little guy.... remember that he'll grow quick.

-Rob

rekn · 08/02/2006, 05:25 AM

can you post a pic rmo!

rekn · 08/03/2006, 08:55 PM

rob wheres the pic of the mac? please please please!

rmougey · 08/06/2006, 12:47 AM

I'll post a pic early this week....

Spent the last 3 days swapping out my 100 reef for a new 120.... installed an Oceans Motions and cleaned everything up. It's been a busy 3 days..... Have about 15 minutes till I get to fire everything back up.... verify that I caught all the leaks... then go to bed.

I'm exhausted.

Crit21 · 08/06/2006, 11:22 AM

The mac is $45 or $49.

07/30/2006, 09:31 PM	#1
Leopard Wrasse Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 501	normanviking Your PM box is full. How is the new tank doing?

07/31/2006, 02:23 PM	#6
calvin415 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: C. Springs, CO Posts: 4,530	Deathco off Powers had an ich outbreak in their SW tanks about 4 weeks ago, not sure what they did to correct the issue... __________________ -February 2007 nTOTM "The problem with America is stupidity. Why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself" Current Tank Info: ADA 60-P

07/31/2006, 02:48 PM	#7
reefkoi Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,983	petco,where the pets go...........to die __________________ 1Kw bulb club Current Tank Info: A 600gal. on Zeovit & a 240gal.

07/31/2006, 03:41 PM	#8
ReefJerk Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 853	I personally have NEVER had any fish die that I bought from the PetCo off of Lake. It has been a while since I've been there, but I've always had good luck. The one off Powers looks like a concentration camp/death chamber for fish. __________________ "Whatever it is, do it 'til you're satisfied..." Current Tank Info: 180 mixed, 3x250 HQI, Reeflo Orca 200, CLM: 12 outlets, 10kgph

08/01/2006, 09:53 AM	#15
COreefer Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 2,329	Murf, Pomacanthus Maculosus __________________ "Early to bed, early to rise, work like hell and advertise." Current Tank Info: 45 and 20G mixed reefs...

07/31/2006, 07:28 AM	#2
normanviking Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 908	Ok box is empty now. The tank is going well. Up and running now. 100 lbs of sand. 60 aragnite 40 live sand. Put some live rock in. Got the prurple firefish from Petco yesterday. Doing well so far. Ate right away.

07/31/2006, 11:48 AM	#3
rekn Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: colorado springs,co Posts: 909	what petco sells sw fish?

07/31/2006, 12:16 PM	#4
normanviking Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 908	All that I know of. I go to the one off of Cheyenne.

07/31/2006, 12:49 PM	#5
Leopard Wrasse Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 501	The Petco's on Lake and on Powers both sell saltwater.

07/31/2006, 06:39 PM	#9
Crit21 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 1,429	The Petco on Lake always seems to have at least one SW fish with ich, particularly the large angel species. I've had mixed results with their fish. Whenever I get anything from them I take my time acclimating them to my water. I do know they use super low SG (1.016 or lower if I remember correctly). I can't remember if they use copper too. I think the only fish I ever got from them that died were yellow tangs. They would eat but always looked too thin in the stomach, then die. All the rest seemed to do ok.

07/31/2006, 07:38 PM	#10
pouponfrance Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Peyton Posts: 68	I was there a week ago and the Powers store had pretty sickly looking fish. A yellow tang two minutes from death.

08/01/2006, 01:32 AM	#12
murfman Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 4,670	what is the scientific name on that Maculosa?

08/01/2006, 05:52 AM	#13
normanviking Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 908	I agree with Eric. I would rather support the local LFS, but Petco just gets stuff they do not. I have never seen a purple firefish anywhere else. Bought a carpenters flasher warasse from Seascape the other day. It is still laying on the bottom. Hope it pulls through. Very pretty fish.

08/01/2006, 07:00 AM	#14
rekn Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: colorado springs,co Posts: 909	the petco on uintah doesnt sell sw. i like LFS but i cant afford alot of their prices

08/01/2006, 10:36 AM	#16
castorpollux Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 683	its funny I was at a petco the other day buying crickets for my gf's pet newt... don't ask. anyways I noticed all the sick fish, and my girlfriend made me buy one (baby blue tang), who's already back in good condition... but anyways, i was talking to the manager about his set-up. He was complaining about how he could never get the salinity right, and how he has 5 gallons of evaporation a day... yada yada yada... I tested the salinity for him and it was reading 1.035+ After more discussion with the manager I found out this: Apparently thier corporate offices who also "train" the managers to be "knowlegdable" on subjects involving thier livestock taught him that you are never supposed to top off with RO, only saltwater. It was the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, I talked to him for a while and explained that by lowering the salinity to 1.017-1.019 it would be less stressful on the fish and gave him a slow way to lower the salinity back to where it needs to be. I was blown away that the corporate offices teach thier managers things that are that entirely wrong. Its the very basics of where saltwater husbandry starts... SALINITY. I am assuming that this problem is universal throughout all the Petco's and have been trying to figure out a way to contact the corporate person in charge of thier saltwater standards to have chat. So if you any one knows a contact I would greatly appreciate it. __________________ One time in bangkok the world was my oyster... :) Current Tank Info: Currently none... but previously a 23g SPS Nano- 400w XM 20k, 2-32 w Sunpaq Dual Actinics, 2 maxijet 1200 (mod'd), magdrive 5 return, cpr backpak skimmer, refugium. 4g office pico 70w 14k hqi

08/01/2006, 10:59 AM	#17
racer69 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 1,446	Not to take the side of Petco, but the store down here has their maintenance and top offs done buy an independent company. Their employees only catch and bag the livestock. The tanks and fish still look horrible, so I don't buy from them. They actually have two 5" purple tangs in a 45 gallon display! __________________ Todd Its better to burn out than to fade away..... Current Tank Info: 180 gal Reef, w 50 gal sump 33 cube w/15 gal sump

08/01/2006, 11:27 AM	#18
castorpollux Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 683	i also heard that thier wild caught stock was captured through cyanide poisoning? i don't know if its true though... maybe the tank maintenance revolves around the owner of the particular franchise? __________________ One time in bangkok the world was my oyster... :) Current Tank Info: Currently none... but previously a 23g SPS Nano- 400w XM 20k, 2-32 w Sunpaq Dual Actinics, 2 maxijet 1200 (mod'd), magdrive 5 return, cpr backpak skimmer, refugium. 4g office pico 70w 14k hqi

08/01/2006, 01:05 PM	#20
racer69 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 1,446	Maybe some of the franchises are cleaning up their acts and realizing that there is good money in quality live stock. __________________ Todd Its better to burn out than to fade away..... Current Tank Info: 180 gal Reef, w 50 gal sump 33 cube w/15 gal sump

08/01/2006, 10:57 PM	#21
rmougey Chair, MACNA 2014 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO Posts: 1,341	A note for Murfman.... in case you are considering that cute juvenile tank raised maculosus: I've always had a soft spot for them and had one many many years ago in a 100 gallon tank. I received an ORA tank raised mac for my birthday about 4 years ago. He was very cute... barely pushing 2". He went to live in my 175 bowfront. Today, my Dwarf Mac (I still remember him that way) is pushing 12" with streamers. He's a horse.... and his colors are fabulous. So... if you buy the little guy.... remember that he'll grow quick. -Rob __________________ If at first you don't succeed, you didn't quarantine long enough!

08/02/2006, 05:25 AM	#22
rekn Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: colorado springs,co Posts: 909	can you post a pic rmo!

08/03/2006, 08:55 PM	#23
rekn Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: colorado springs,co Posts: 909	rob wheres the pic of the mac? please please please!

08/06/2006, 12:47 AM	#24
rmougey Chair, MACNA 2014 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO Posts: 1,341	I'll post a pic early this week.... Spent the last 3 days swapping out my 100 reef for a new 120.... installed an Oceans Motions and cleaned everything up. It's been a busy 3 days..... Have about 15 minutes till I get to fire everything back up.... verify that I caught all the leaks... then go to bed. I'm exhausted. __________________ If at first you don't succeed, you didn't quarantine long enough!

08/06/2006, 11:22 AM	#25
Crit21 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 1,429	The mac is $45 or $49.