The Bare Bottom Club

Houtz · 08/22/2007, 08:32 PM

Well, after four years of sand I've made the decision to go bare bottom. So I guess I'll find the bare bottom club and see if I can join

plyle02 · 08/22/2007, 08:33 PM

Many different ways to skin a cat, but this has been the best approach for me..... good luck!

Andrew · 08/22/2007, 08:33 PM

Welcome aboard.

TCU Reefer · 08/22/2007, 08:53 PM

Welocome. BB member since 2006.

yellowwatchmen · 08/22/2007, 08:57 PM

I have a empty tank with nothing in it. Does that count? LOL
But i am seriously thinking about trying a bb in a couple years.

zach0660 · 08/22/2007, 09:57 PM

I dont think that would count, but why would you go through the hassle of empyting your tank of all the sand?

Houtz · 08/22/2007, 10:48 PM

Because, zach0660, my sand is icky.
I'm battling a hair algae siege and the sand is covered in little hair algae tufts. It's also clumping up like chunks in kitty litter.
I realize it's a messy task, but I've been itching to go bare bottom for a while and now I have nothing to lose but a nasty poo and hair algae layer.
I'm also of the persuasion that it'll be easier to control water quality in the sand's absence because it won't be there to hold onto that abominable brown mystery sludge which I abhor.
I don't think this will cause a disastrous system failure, the sand wasn't raging deep or anything and I think it's contribution to the filtration was negligible, perhaps even detrimental.
Besides, too late now, I just finished!

Houtz · 08/22/2007, 11:36 PM

Oh, by the way, I'm not trying to launch the endless debate over "to use sand, or not to use sand".
If you use sand and like it and it's not gross like mine, cool. I know the sand issue is kind of like "Chevy, or Ford", and neither side will ever convince the other completely.
I'm just switching to "Ford" because my "Chevy" let me down.

HBtank · 08/23/2007, 12:18 AM

Hell yeh, Sand gets to be Chevy

hulley · 08/23/2007, 06:18 AM

I've never been happier! Remember, open aquascaping and lots of flow!

MeuserReef · 08/23/2007, 06:46 AM

BB since 2005.

Starboard looks pretty cool after 2 years. All kinds of little creatures living on it.

RichConley · 08/23/2007, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Houtz
Because, zach0660, my sand is icky.
I'm battling a hair algae siege and the sand is covered in little hair algae tufts. It's also clumping up like chunks in kitty litter.
I realize it's a messy task, but I've been itching to go bare bottom for a while and now I have nothing to lose but a nasty poo and hair algae layer.
I'm also of the persuasion that it'll be easier to control water quality in the sand's absence because it won't be there to hold onto that abominable brown mystery sludge which I abhor.
I don't think this will cause a disastrous system failure, the sand wasn't raging deep or anything and I think it's contribution to the filtration was negligible, perhaps even detrimental.
Besides, too late now, I just finished!

Going barebottom isnt going to fix any of that.

You need to fix your husbandry.

Fish Filet · 08/23/2007, 09:19 AM

Now that you're a member, you need to get a wrasse to keep your barebottom spiffy clean

akaatomic · 08/23/2007, 11:46 AM

What kind of wrasse is good for bottom cleaning?

crvz · 08/23/2007, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RichConley
Going barebottom isnt going to fix any of that.

You need to fix your husbandry.

Ah, speaking from experience, it's much easier to manage and "husband" (I'm quite certain that's not a verb) a tank without sand while battling hair algae (not saying they're easier overall).

I did the same in late '05 and have been very pleased. My new 150 is without sand, and I'm quite pleased. There are a few nuances, but once figured out it can be a real treat. Good luck!!

audio101 · 08/23/2007, 02:32 PM

Don't do it! The bbc is an evil cult!

Der_Iron_Chef · 08/23/2007, 04:34 PM

And by "evil" you mean "awesome".....right? ;-)

Fish Filet · 08/23/2007, 04:39 PM

We're doing the initiation ceremony for Houtz at MACNA XIX. To finalize his membership into the gang ... err club, he's going to have to clean the bare bottoms of all the founding members. In public.

Palancar · 08/23/2007, 05:05 PM

I'm doing the same. Pulled out all the sand, installed high flow closed-loop, working on reaquascaping. Looking forward to something different.

hulley · 08/23/2007, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fish Filet
We're doing the initiation ceremony for Houtz at MACNA XIX. To finalize his membership into the gang ... err club, he's going to have to clean the bare bottoms of all the founding members. In public.

Thats good stuff!

GSMguy · 08/23/2007, 05:35 PM

im in 1 month BB on my 50G

Waxxiemann · 08/23/2007, 05:51 PM

I also switched to BB about 1 month ago from DBS and so far I just LOVE it! I don't think I'll be going back now.

boxfishpooalot · 08/23/2007, 05:55 PM

bb here since 2006, mostly because i can see why my tank is having any problems with nutrients.

jshuste · 08/23/2007, 06:01 PM

I will be going bb on my new 90.

boss252 · 08/23/2007, 06:30 PM

I went BB a little over a year ago and love it. I will never go back to the dark side

08/22/2007, 08:32 PM	#1
Houtz Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vernal, Utah Posts: 146	The Bare Bottom Club Well, after four years of sand I've made the decision to go bare bottom. So I guess I'll find the bare bottom club and see if I can join __________________ "For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." - Rom. 5: 7-8 NKJV Current Tank Info: 29 gal. AGA mixed reef

08/22/2007, 08:33 PM	#2
plyle02 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lake Helen, FL Posts: 5,526	Many different ways to skin a cat, but this has been the best approach for me..... good luck! __________________ Perry "Anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" ~Buddha~ Current Tank Info: 50 Gallon AIO Cube, Aquamaxx WS-1 Skimmer, LED/ Hybrid 4x24 watt t5

08/22/2007, 08:53 PM	#4
TCU Reefer Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,044	Welocome. BB member since 2006. __________________ Steve - DFWMAS Member Click on the red house to view my build thread Current Tank Info: 215g starboard SPS in-wall, AC Jr, 3 x 250w MH's, 10k Reeflux, 320w VHO actinics, closed loop w/ Sequence Dart and OM 4-Way, Tunze wavebox, VorTech, 2x modded MJ 1200's, ASM G4 recirc/meshwheel, Geo 618 Ca reactor, custom Melev sump, Mag 9.5 return

08/22/2007, 10:48 PM	#7
Houtz Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vernal, Utah Posts: 146	Because, zach0660, my sand is icky. I'm battling a hair algae siege and the sand is covered in little hair algae tufts. It's also clumping up like chunks in kitty litter. I realize it's a messy task, but I've been itching to go bare bottom for a while and now I have nothing to lose but a nasty poo and hair algae layer. I'm also of the persuasion that it'll be easier to control water quality in the sand's absence because it won't be there to hold onto that abominable brown mystery sludge which I abhor. I don't think this will cause a disastrous system failure, the sand wasn't raging deep or anything and I think it's contribution to the filtration was negligible, perhaps even detrimental. Besides, too late now, I just finished! __________________ "For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." - Rom. 5: 7-8 NKJV Current Tank Info: 29 gal. AGA mixed reef Last edited by Houtz; 08/22/2007 at 11:30 PM.

08/22/2007, 11:36 PM	#8
Houtz Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vernal, Utah Posts: 146	Oh, by the way, I'm not trying to launch the endless debate over "to use sand, or not to use sand". If you use sand and like it and it's not gross like mine, cool. I know the sand issue is kind of like "Chevy, or Ford", and neither side will ever convince the other completely. I'm just switching to "Ford" because my "Chevy" let me down. __________________ "For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." - Rom. 5: 7-8 NKJV Current Tank Info: 29 gal. AGA mixed reef

08/22/2007, 08:33 PM	#3
Andrew Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 13,640	Welcome aboard.

08/22/2007, 08:57 PM	#5
yellowwatchmen Moved On Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bellevue,NE Posts: 1,058	I have a empty tank with nothing in it. Does that count? LOL But i am seriously thinking about trying a bb in a couple years.

08/22/2007, 09:57 PM	#6
zach0660 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NE Posts: 549	I dont think that would count, but why would you go through the hassle of empyting your tank of all the sand?

08/23/2007, 12:18 AM	#9
HBtank Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 2,957	Hell yeh, Sand gets to be Chevy __________________ 80g Aiptasia dominated reef tank.. with fish and now a bunch of berghia! Current Tank Info: 80g tank, re-starting a reef after a zoanthid nudibranch plauge, followed by months of steady and unstoppable STN/RTN, crashed; stayed FOWLR for a couple years, currently an aiptasia dominated reef tank with fishies and BERGHIA

08/23/2007, 06:18 AM	#10
hulley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In front of my computor. Posts: 592	I've never been happier! Remember, open aquascaping and lots of flow!

08/23/2007, 06:46 AM	#11
MeuserReef Welcome to the next level Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,412	BB since 2005. Starboard looks pretty cool after 2 years. All kinds of little creatures living on it. __________________ "Never be afraid to do something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the titanic." -Anonymous Current Tank Info: tankless

08/23/2007, 09:19 AM	#13
Fish Filet Moved On Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 282	Now that you're a member, you need to get a wrasse to keep your barebottom spiffy clean

08/23/2007, 11:46 AM	#14
akaatomic Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 155	What kind of wrasse is good for bottom cleaning?

08/23/2007, 02:32 PM	#16
audio101 Moved On Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Napa, CA Posts: 1,091	Don't do it! The bbc is an evil cult!

08/23/2007, 04:34 PM	#17
Der_Iron_Chef Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 841	And by "evil" you mean "awesome".....right? ;-)

08/23/2007, 04:39 PM	#18
Fish Filet Moved On Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 282	We're doing the initiation ceremony for Houtz at MACNA XIX. To finalize his membership into the gang ... err club, he's going to have to clean the bare bottoms of all the founding members. In public.

08/23/2007, 05:05 PM	#19
Palancar Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bloomsbury, NJ Posts: 165	I'm doing the same. Pulled out all the sand, installed high flow closed-loop, working on reaquascaping. Looking forward to something different.

08/23/2007, 05:35 PM	#21
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	im in 1 month BB on my 50G __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

08/23/2007, 05:51 PM	#22
Waxxiemann Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 2,364	I also switched to BB about 1 month ago from DBS and so far I just LOVE it! I don't think I'll be going back now. __________________ "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein

08/23/2007, 05:55 PM	#23
boxfishpooalot Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canada, Grande Praire, Ab Posts: 5,824	bb here since 2006, mostly because i can see why my tank is having any problems with nutrients. __________________ Its a good idea to have a refrence sample for alk test kits. 1.1350 grams of baking soda in 1gallon of distilled water=10dkh. Check your alkalinity test kit! Algae is Mother Natures phosphate remover Current Tank Info: 220 galon mixed reef.

08/23/2007, 06:01 PM	#24
jshuste Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 142	I will be going bb on my new 90.

08/23/2007, 06:30 PM	#25
boss252 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quincy, IL Posts: 161	I went BB a little over a year ago and love it. I will never go back to the dark side