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I would not use Bayer insect killer for preventative dips. It contains cyfluthrin,a pyrethroid, which is toxic to invetebrates and fish in less than parts per billion. Folks are having some luck with it in treating red bugs (tegastes) and acro eating flatworms. Need to be sure the coral and base has no residual on it when it goes into the tank. The invertebrates and worms/ nudibranchs appear to be porous enough to allow it to penetrate their bodies and cause paralyses.
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Coral RX full strength (20ml per gal of tank water) for 10 min. No issues so far.
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Is it too harsh to dip Coral Revive AND Lugols?
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Another question here.
Should I freshwater deep my euphyllia if one if its head is receding? |
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I just know My frogspawn made weird melting clouding when I ffreshwater dipped it.
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i would never mix two remedies in the same container but rather dip in two separate buckets . also i dont like to dip anything in freshwater unless its for ick on saltwater fish . if your not trying to kill off single cell organisms by osmotic shock then i dont see any use in it . if there are critters on the corals freshwater is not very complete IME .
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I agree one dip at a time. The reactions between the different elements in the dips are too varied and unpredictable particularly since we don't even know what's in some of them. For example if you prepared a dip with an oxidant and aan acid they might cancel each other out to some degree or with some others toxins could be produced in some combinations.
You can do brief under 5 minute freshwater dips for zoanthus. Not terribly effective though,ime and longer might harm them. I would not use a frehwater dip for other corals or even for fish since the time frame for them is so tight that it's not enough to impact the target organism significantly.
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frogspawn were fine and opened up after 15 minute dip but it did look really bad. I would prob never recommmend this to anyone. It didn't bleach or anything it just created a mucos but that was about it. I think i'll stick to lugols.
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Thanks for all the info, Lugols it is for me...
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+1 on Bayer. I learned about it from a guy I recently picked up corals from. Did some research and my own experiments and worked out great.
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What sort of research?
I'd like to know more abut the active ingredients, particularly cyfluthrin and whether it will breakdown in aqueous solutions as it does with light and air. Can it just build up over time with lethal results?
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...lugol's for me, I haven't has any issue with it. But I have to say the Bayer or peroxide methods sound interesting.
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