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Btw i am on my 3rd water change since ridding my dinos..hopefully they are gone for good. |
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02/19/2016, 10:37 PM | #3152 |
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Peroxide. You need the ozone like effect to rip them apart.
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yeah i did a 1:3 ratio of h2o2 with tank water @ 500 ml.
moved the coral around for 2 minutes and put it back. I'm kind of new to this whole dipping thing how often can this be done? |
02/20/2016, 12:59 PM | #3154 |
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Quiet_Ivy, I took a run at your first draft of the FAQ. The changes look extensive but aren't -- my biggest contribution was probably noticing that you didn't include a recommendation against carbon dosing. Mostly I reorganized it and added karimwassef's description of his implementation of the Clean Method and cal_stir's description of the Dirty Method, partly for their value as primary source documents and partly for their value as practical guides.
I encourage others to look over Quiet_Ivy's draft FAQ and help the process along. This is really about identifying a set of "best practices", so it's important. And I encourage everyone, especially DNA, to take a moment to appreciate the fact that things have progressed to the point where pulling together a useful FAQ to help other hobbyists deal with dinos is now a reasonable goal. |
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Above image shows what proceeded the disappearance of dinos in my tank. It is a plant and they are still there.
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This is just vague paranoia, but a few years ago in the area where I live, 2 or 3 of the SW LFS's were struck by poisoning -- probably an OTC garden chemical surreptitiously dumped into their DTs. That didn't strike me as significant until I came across this paper while I was doing my homework... Changes in microbial diversity associated with two coral species recovering from a stressed state in a public aquarium system https://www.researchgate.net/profile...01c1000000.pdf It appears someone attempted to poison the reef tank at the Horniman Museum and Gardens in London in November, 2010. I have no idea if this was purest vandalism or some sort of moral misfire -- the aquarium version of monkey wrenching -- but it has crossed my mind that poisoning aquariums may be a thing in some social circles. |
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02/20/2016, 05:01 PM | #3158 |
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It looks pretty good already.
Perhaps it's best not to over engineer it since hopefully we will rewrite it soon with even more effective methods. Since most reefers with a dino problem don't have a clue, add some photos to get their attention. |
02/20/2016, 05:15 PM | #3159 |
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"Opened skimmer's collection cup drain to allow it to drain right back into the sump."
Just realized this happens to my tank at least twice a year when the skimmer overflows for some reason. |
02/20/2016, 06:40 PM | #3160 |
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Two months ago I had Ca at 350 and Alk at 5 and almost no dinos left.
Now it's Ca at 380 and Alk at 7 and the dinos are blooming again. This is quite a thin line. The levels took only a week to reach where they are now and they have hit the titanium wall. Looking at my logs for the last 4 years the only times they have peaked across the wall is with chemicals on top of my oversized Calcium and Kalkwasser reactors. I measure my Calcium reactor occasionally and last time it read: Alk at 29 and flow 30ml/minute Is anyone able to solve this mystery? |
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34 ... I think getting dinos can create a victim response... like the aftermath of a physical assault!
So your paranoia is probably a natural reaction to the horror.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBBaXVqwlMM first time I found a vid of this kind (Coolia). I'm now 100% that this is my dino species #2. edit: just for jollies, the same youtube user (group from canary islands studying fish poisoning) has 2 videos of a what they call a polycheate worm with a bellyfull of prorocentrum dinos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuGB0chG0bE Last edited by taricha; 02/21/2016 at 12:13 AM. |
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02/21/2016, 02:22 AM | #3163 |
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are you saying the answer has always been bristleworms?
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02/21/2016, 10:20 AM | #3164 |
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So far, it has been 4 months since my first (& last) bout of Dinoflagellates. How is everyone doing so far?
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02/21/2016, 10:40 AM | #3165 |
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I'm still in good shape. I saw a dusting on a rock where a glued coral had died... I turned the UV back on 24/7 and it's gone.
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02/21/2016, 11:00 AM | #3166 |
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Im dino free..but the dirty method left me with gha all over my rocks. I had a question for any of you that had the gha sprout up after dinos...should i attack the gha with heavy gfo or just take it slow and remove it over time? I have some turbos, trochus, and a lettuce nudi putting in the work but as we all know they like to take naps after heavy meals..
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02/21/2016, 12:02 PM | #3167 |
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blackouts got rid of this for me, and im just seeing a few spots again with dinos again i think due to increased photoperiod.. and i'm gonna hit them again with a 3 day blackout.. doesnt seem to affect sps corals too much.
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02/21/2016, 12:06 PM | #3168 |
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my tank is very clean never seen phos or nitrate in it :S using elos and salifert and red sea pro ive never had any algae in the tank. but i have had huge dino blooms and twice i have done 3 day blackouts with lots of filter floss and skimmer on very wet and 3 times it has been like a system reboot... however i'm still trying to find that balance of the right amount of light. I had this lighting schedule for 1.5 months with no appearance of dinos and then bam one day at the tips of some hysterix it shows up, and slowly over the next couple of days you start seeing it on the rock and then if i keep the lighting as it is im sure the tank will be covered in 4-5 more days.. so i'm gonna hit it with a 3 day blackout as of tomorrow and hopefully they will be gone! again.
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I use an ATS and an army of tangs. Heavy feeding and no algae in the DT
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I have not seen Ostreopsis since i added the UV sterilizer. These seem to be much easier to deal with since in my case they do not seem to bother corals where as ostreopsis would make them close up. Interesting vdeo you posted. I found several of these worms with what appears to be a bely full of Dinos. I obsereve him under the slide for about 10 mins but did not see any actual ingestion of them. One interesting occurance was i only had 2 lights on my aquarium as seen here when i got "rid" of Ostreopsis . After adding the 3rd light a dinos explosion came over the white lightless rock. It has since died back quite a bit but was surprised to see how quickly they initially took hold of this new area. They even produced bubbles for a few days. |
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02/21/2016, 03:37 PM | #3171 |
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The worm actually looks full of dinos. It may not have been feeding because it was so full.
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Out of that big mess i took a small sample and saw a few of these worms. Lots of other life. All the worms i saw of this type appeared to be full of dinos. |
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After 5/6 days, the sump was getting deep in dead dinoflagellates (I was siphoning out regularly), by 8 or 9 days, this was markedly reduced suggesting that most if not all had perished and were siphonable. I've not had a return outbreak yet, so hoping this stays true. |
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