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03/31/2017, 03:59 AM | #4201 |
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What level of magnification is need to identify between species of dino?
I've successfully treated them some months ago with Dino X, now I have them again from a frag except they are not affected by Dino X this time. |
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03/31/2017, 05:36 AM | #4203 | |
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Unfortunately I didn't keep a sample, and I'm not sure what I can tell you other than: They formed long strings They killed/damaged corals when they touched them They killed snails/inverts when they ate them It was the colour of diatoms but broadly cyanobacteria like in texture. It passed the kitchen paper shake test (re-formed strings) Not sure what else I can tell you. The second lot came in on a frag plug. Due to my own bad timing, my Q tank was full of fish, so I took a chance, dipped the coral then put it straight in the DT. Next night, dinos on the plug appeared, night after that it's all over the sand. Week later it's all over the rocks. I've 4 doses in with Dino X and this time it has done nothing at all. Could be a different species or maybe just different conditions. Anyhow I will hopefully be picking up a microscope tonight and if I do, I will try and grab some pics. |
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Ok... Day 3 of lights out. UV sterilizer arrived today and it's running. I got this one: https://www.amazon.com/SunSun-JUP-23...ews/B008AZV7GI. Seems decent. Hopefully flow rate isn't too fast.
I'm converting the mid back section of my biocube into a algae scrubber. Lights arrive today. LASTLY... Finally found my son's microscope. Not like what we had in college, I I can at least say I SEE those stinkin little ovals swimming all over the place. The issue though... I can't say which dino it is??!! The three u guys referenced all seem to be oval-shaped? So how do I know...? |
03/31/2017, 01:06 PM | #4206 |
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Algaeid.com for pics and vids. Movement really helps.
Put smart phone up to lens and post pics. And we'll give a 2nd opinion. |
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So, I had some dinos, but they weren't the biggest problem. I was getting ready to wage war on bryopsis, and had planned a 3 day blackout to hit the dinos at the end, seems I won't need to, Dinos are gone, and timeline below.
Day 0 - Added UV sterilizer (high flow), Removed Carbon, Large dose of GFO, turned off skimmer Day 0 - Dosed Fluconozole Day 1 - Dinos fading Day 2 - Continued Dino Fading Day 3 - Nearly no evidence of Dino, blew remants off all rocks. Cyano starting to appear on sand, turned off GFO Reactor Day 4 - No new Dino Growth, Cyano worsening Day 5 - Chemiclean, GFO still off. Day 6 - Bryopsis gone. Cyano fading, no new dinos. Planning water change on Day 8, which will be dosed with Fluco to maintain concentration, will restart skimmer, carbon reactor, and UV. Large water change on Day 14 planned. Last edited by VGT; 03/31/2017 at 02:58 PM. |
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Doesn't fluconazole kill all worms?
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what impact does it have on reef life? are you saying that it kills dinos and bryopsis but that no effect on anything else?
not doubting your feedback by the way, just want to confirm what you're saying.
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Found your pics in other thread. I see bryopsis. Got pics of your dinos, or at least info about how they presented: bubbles, strings, high flow, rocks, sand, algae etc?
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doing some research on it - the descriptions say that it works on
Ichthyophonus hoferi Saprolegnia Bryopsis If we add Dinos (should identify which one), and no impact on other life, that would be good to confirm.
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In human medicine I write for fluconazole all the time (an example is brand name Diflucan). It's an antifungal. I'm somewhat confused on application here, but assume there is.
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The more I think about it... I assume fungi and algae could be treated similarly.
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Hi, at what concentration do we use fluconazole? Does it affect the tridacnas and scoly?
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I have no idea whether the fluconazole affected my dinos, or if it was the UV sterilizer, or if it was swapping the carbon for high GFO. Just sharing my experience. I didn't take any pictures of the dino, but it was the stringy kind with bubbles in it (it looked like the picture below).
Fluco works by inhibiting sterol conversion, which may play a role in the structure of dino as well, or it could be a huge coincidence. I'm an N=1 here, not sure if anyone has been dealing simultaneously with bryo and dino, and did the fluco regimen. |
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Only microscope I could get was a £9 kids plastic model. filmed it by holding my phone on the eyepiece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI_Uo-ZEd00 |
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I was planning to continue Dino X for the maximum duration, reading the posts above, would I be better using fluconazole do you think? I have bryopsis that I was going to get rid of with it after the dinos. |
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I think you'll still have dinos when it's all over, but we'll see. |
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I'd try some fresh carbon and some water changes. The drop in ORP might be the result of decaying dinoflagellates or other organisms. Please let us know how long it takes the SPS to recover. I hope they'll be fine in a few days.
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