So.Cal. Out of the Ashes 340 build

[ADVRESOURCE]

Originally Posted by acesq

King Jason, (my leige ) let me know what your Triton test shows for heavy metals. Magnets are killers lying in wait!!

Did you ever reach out to avast marine to get their take on the magnet packaging material? Perhaps they would be able to either shed some light on the suspected heavy metal problem or do a redesign on their probe holder magnet packaging.

[acesq]

No, I haven't. But I think I will. I can't say whether it's a design defect or a manufacturing defect, but Avast should know that at least one of their probe holders failed.

[King Jason]

Originally Posted by ADVRESOURCE

Did you ever reach out to avast marine to get their take on the magnet packaging material? Perhaps they would be able to either shed some light on the suspected heavy metal problem or do a redesign on their probe holder magnet packaging.

Mine wasn't Avast. [EDIT, I looked again and was actually this model: http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/jbj-na...ium-light.html]

[worm5406]

Originally Posted by King Jason

Mine wasn't Avast. [EDIT, I looked again and was actually this model: http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/jbj-na...ium-light.html]

Hummm That is a light, with suction cups.

[ADVRESOURCE]

Originally Posted by acesq

No, I haven't. But I think I will. I can't say whether it's a design defect or a manufacturing defect, but Avast should know that at least one of their probe holders failed.

Every pump, whether return or circulation, has a magnet inside. Gyre is inside tank. Rotating magnets are susceptible to chafing damage, too. It sounds like all of the magnetic devices should be periodically inspected. Please inform us of the avast marine discussion.

[acesq]

Originally Posted by ADVRESOURCE

Every pump, whether return or circulation, has a magnet inside. Gyre is inside tank. Rotating magnets are susceptible to chafing damage, too. It sounds like all of the magnetic devices should be periodically inspected. Please inform us of the avast marine discussion.

My understanding is that the uncoated impeller magnets are ferrite based ceramic and do not rust while the plastic coated ones and probe holder magnets are rare earth, neodymium based and do rust. I can't confirm whether the rare earth magnets emit tungsten when they rust and my high levels could have been caused by the rusting of the stainless steel in the pump bolts. The issue Eshan found was that the cheap stainless steel used in impeller shafts and bolts in some Chinese made pumps will rust and emit tunsgten. The impeller magnets in those pumps were not the issue.

So between the barely rusting SS bolts and the dripping red rust magnet, my gut tells me its the magnet, but I can't be sure.

[King Jason]

Originally Posted by worm5406

Hummm That is a light, with suction cups.

If you look at one of the pictures it shows the magnet option as well.

[acesq]

So this just happened.


Murder Suicide by my magnifica. Decided to take a walk into my closed loop inlets. First walk in the last 2 years!!

I'd list the fish but it's just too painful right now. Every one dead except the two clowns. Corals are so far looking ok.

Waiting for an emergency delivery of 200g fresh saltwater by Austin of California Aquariums. I only had 20g on hand. (Can't say enough good things about he and Elliot.)

In the meantime I'm skimming wet and set up two large canisters of carbon.

[SPotter]

Oh my Art!!!!! This horrible news!

[King Jason]

Oh no!

[acesq]

Water change done. Corals look good so far.

I haven't yet come to grips with how many fish I've lost. And they were my dream collection!!

[iced98lx]

So sorry to see this Art, hopefully you can save the coral and clowns.

[solitude127]

WOW, sorry for you loss. I get bummed when I lose 1 fish.

[acesq]

Well, the clowns and all of the corals made it through the night. The water is cloudy, but I attribute it to a bacteria bloom from the massive water change.

My wife wants another anemone, claiming it and the mating pair of Picasso's were the star attraction in the tank, particularly to our guests. That's true, but I'm not so sure she would have the same opinion if she knew how much I had invested in those fish. I don't think I want to take a chance like that again.

So this is what I lost and how long I've had each:

Gem Tang -- 3 yrs
Femininus Wrasse -- 2+ yrs
Regal Angel -- 3+ yrs
Interruptus angel -- 3 yrs
Choati wrasse -- 3+ yrs
Johnsoni wrasse -- 4 yrs
Candy basslet - 6 months
Ornate wrasse -- 3+ yrs
Joculator angel -- 1.5 yrs
Genicanthus melanospilos -- 1 yr
Copperband butterfly -- 1.5 yrs
Flame wrasse - 1 yr
Desjardini tang - 1.5 yrs
Poweder blue tang - 4 months
4 - threadfin cardinals - 1 yr
Flame fin tomini tang - 3 yrs
Kole tang - 3 yrs
Chocolate tang - 3 yrs
mandarin - 4 years
blue stripe pipe fish -- 4 days (!)

Ughhh!!

[SPotter]

Art I feel sick just looking at that list and knowing what those fish cost. I don't know if I would have the strength to carry on with the tank

[Darthv247]

maybe its time to add a secondary source of flow. redundancy is key in keeping a healthy tank. Could add some powerheads.

[Darthv247]

or was it just that the mag dying polluted the water column too much?

[iced98lx]

man that list breaks my heart.

[acesq]

Thanks Steve. I'm definitely carrying on.

[acesq]

Originally Posted by Darthv247

or was it just that the mag dying polluted the water column too much?

I have a ton of flow. What happened was the mag moved from his rock onto the inlets of my closed loop. A bunch of tentacles were ripped off and sucked into the impellers, chopped up and spread into the water column.

[acesq]

Originally Posted by iced98lx

man that list breaks my heart.

You and me both.

[Darthv247]

ahh. yah that sucks. have had a few bubble tips get sucked into powerheads before. pretty gruesome to find them that way. sorry for your loss. hard to have a tank without an anemone though. they are so interesting and pleasant to watch.

[Achilles Torben]

So sorry, I know what it means to loose fish.

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[acesq]

Originally Posted by Achilles Torben

So sorry, I know what it means to loose fish.

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Thanks. I've never experienced a total wipeout before. Don't really know where to start. I guess setting up a QT is the first step then seeing what's out there to buy.

[iced98lx]

Originally Posted by acesq

Thanks. I've never experienced a total wipeout before. Don't really know where to start. I guess setting up a QT is the first step then seeing what's out there to buy.

Are you contemplating pulling the clowns, letting the tank run fallow and re-QTing the clowns? I wasn't along at the start to know if the clowns were QT'd/TTM whatever method you are using or if you might get to "Start Clean" while still enjoying the coral.

Again my condolences, what a terrible loss. I hope you at least get some joy back as you plan new fish and get a 'redo' button on your fish selection. Perhaps a small amount of lemonade out of the lemons?