Possible Ich

tallguy88 · 04/18/2014, 12:32 AM

I just got a Valintini Puffer Two days ago and this morning started showing signs of what I think is ich now this evening he looks worse. Below is a picture. I have a bottle of cupramine will this cute him and if so how do I do it? Picture attached.

Newsmyrna80 · 04/18/2014, 06:57 AM

Read this...http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2159738
I don't know how copper sensitive puffers are so you may want to do a search.

bchap05 · 04/18/2014, 09:18 AM

I think my foxface has ick as well I haven't started treatment yet.

I spent like 2 hours studying it yesterday. It's insane how many different opinions there are. So you kind of have to form your own or decide who's idea is the best.

The one I decided on and seems to be the idea of the more experienced hobbists is to remove the fish and quarantine or tank transfer. Then once again you have a million opinions on which method to use, and when to add the fish back into the tank. The safe bet sounds like 10-12 weeks but you see people adding fish back in a month and not having issues. Depends on if you want 100% no ich or want to gamble.

panagiotisath · 04/18/2014, 09:25 AM

I do not know about the transfers to aid you cause i never had the luxury of having two tanks but as ich concerns the only medicine i had seen results is copper.All others i had tried during the years didn't do anything. Higher temperature to speed the cycle of ich copper and maybe some garlic in the food to boost the immune .I wish you good luck.

MrTuskfish · 04/18/2014, 09:39 AM

Good pic, a textbook example of SW ich.
It looks like this fish is in a QT and was never in your DT, right? If so, I think tank-transfer is the safest way to treat. Brute containers also can be used if you don't have tanks. Read Snorvich's sticky.Raising temps does nothing to speed the cure; that may be the case for FW ich, SW ich is a totally different critter. Garlic does absolutely nothing, except give the owner false hopes. Long term use of garlic has proven to be harmful.

Deinonych · 04/18/2014, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bchap05

I think my foxface has ick as well I haven't started treatment yet.

I spent like 2 hours studying it yesterday. It's insane how many different opinions there are. So you kind of have to form your own or decide who's idea is the best.

The one I decided on and seems to be the idea of the more experienced hobbists is to remove the fish and quarantine or tank transfer. Then once again you have a million opinions on which method to use, and when to add the fish back into the tank. The safe bet sounds like 10-12 weeks but you see people adding fish back in a month and not having issues. Depends on if you want 100% no ich or want to gamble.

You are correct that there are a lot of opinions about Crypto. Instead of relying on opinions, I find it's better to understand the facts about the organism, its life cycle and proven treatment options. These can be found in snorvich's sticky posts at the top of this forum. I also have the following article bookmarked, as it pretty much covers everything you need to know about the disease: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fa164

tallguy88 · 04/18/2014, 09:58 AM

Thank you for everyone's advice. I think I will try 8 weeks with Cupramine and see how it goes!

This is the second fish I have used in my QT tank my first 3 fish I put straight in the DT tank being new and stupid. After having a clown die from what appeared of that lock jaw thing and not eating I decided I'm not going to take any chances. So glad I started using this QT it definatly saved me and will I always use from now on! Now I see why everyone on here stresses QT ALL new fish I agree completely after only being in this hobby since January.

tallguy88 · 04/23/2014, 03:45 PM

Poor little guy didn't make it. After a day of Cupramine the white dots disappeared. He was eating good and I followed the directions with a second dose of Cupramine to get it to the specified copper level. He lasted about 4 days and was gone. Dunno what happened, only thing I can think is the copper was to much for him he stopped eating. I read online puffers are sensitive to copper.

04/18/2014, 06:57 AM	#2
Newsmyrna80 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 2,312	Read this...http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2159738 I don't know how copper sensitive puffers are so you may want to do a search. __________________ 80 gal frag with 30 gal refugium, Orphek Atlantik LED, Red Sea RSK300 skimmer, predominately SPS and LPS Current Tank Info: 80 gallon reef tank with 30 gal refugium

04/18/2014, 09:39 AM	#5
MrTuskfish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Wild Blue Yonder Posts: 8,887	Good pic, a textbook example of SW ich. It looks like this fish is in a QT and was never in your DT, right? If so, I think tank-transfer is the safest way to treat. Brute containers also can be used if you don't have tanks. Read Snorvich's sticky.Raising temps does nothing to speed the cure; that may be the case for FW ich, SW ich is a totally different critter. Garlic does absolutely nothing, except give the owner false hopes. Long term use of garlic has proven to be harmful. __________________ If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. Steve Current Tank Info: 180, 2-240 FOWLRs, 240 reef

04/23/2014, 03:45 PM	#8
tallguy88 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 72	Poor little guy didn't make it. After a day of Cupramine the white dots disappeared. He was eating good and I followed the directions with a second dose of Cupramine to get it to the specified copper level. He lasted about 4 days and was gone. Dunno what happened, only thing I can think is the copper was to much for him he stopped eating. I read online puffers are sensitive to copper. __________________ Saltwater Newbie!! In advance forgive my dumb question!!

04/18/2014, 09:18 AM	#3
bchap05 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 89	I think my foxface has ick as well I haven't started treatment yet. I spent like 2 hours studying it yesterday. It's insane how many different opinions there are. So you kind of have to form your own or decide who's idea is the best. The one I decided on and seems to be the idea of the more experienced hobbists is to remove the fish and quarantine or tank transfer. Then once again you have a million opinions on which method to use, and when to add the fish back into the tank. The safe bet sounds like 10-12 weeks but you see people adding fish back in a month and not having issues. Depends on if you want 100% no ich or want to gamble.

04/18/2014, 09:25 AM	#4
panagiotisath Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 80	I do not know about the transfers to aid you cause i never had the luxury of having two tanks but as ich concerns the only medicine i had seen results is copper.All others i had tried during the years didn't do anything. Higher temperature to speed the cycle of ich copper and maybe some garlic in the food to boost the immune .I wish you good luck.

04/18/2014, 09:58 AM	#7
tallguy88 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 72	Thank you for everyone's advice. I think I will try 8 weeks with Cupramine and see how it goes! This is the second fish I have used in my QT tank my first 3 fish I put straight in the DT tank being new and stupid. After having a clown die from what appeared of that lock jaw thing and not eating I decided I'm not going to take any chances. So glad I started using this QT it definatly saved me and will I always use from now on! Now I see why everyone on here stresses QT ALL new fish I agree completely after only being in this hobby since January.