Vermetid Snails killing my corals Help please!! - Page 7

ivans · 03/06/2018, 11:56 AM

I would add a little bit from my experience with battle against vermitides.
I had them a lot. Especially the smaller ones. I’ve noticed their activity (I mean nets) after corals feeding by Preis V-Power and others similar things. Also after some movements of the rock, sand etc inside the tank. My tank is populated by several tangs, chromises, clown and six line wrasse. There are two hermits and one pistol shrimp. I feed them only by flacks and granulas.
So, I’ve stopped feed corals by V-Power, optimized and increased flow (there are no dead zones, and as a result no mud). And voila - there are no vermitides! I’ve understood this just recently. They disappeared gradually. And corals are thriving.

Isayso · 03/06/2018, 12:12 PM

Did they starved to death??

Tripod1404 · 03/06/2018, 12:37 PM

My leopard wrasse (M. meleagris) decimated the population of vermetid snails. It actually first started picking up small colonista snails. When colonista snail population dropped, leopard gained interest in vermetid snails.

Leopard wrasses are long known to be snail eaters. They have been used by many to control parasitic pyramidellid snails. However, this is the 1st time I seen one eating vermetid snails. I had others that never showed any intrest to vermetid snails, but this guy loves to eat them.

Of course like any predator-prey situation, it did not wipe them out. There are still some at places that leopard cant reach. But the population is greatly reduced.

ivans · 03/06/2018, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isayso

Did they starved to death??

I suppose so.

Isayso · 03/06/2018, 04:41 PM

Well that's a thought.... Remove all the fish and stop feeding the tank for a month or more

ivans · 03/06/2018, 10:18 PM

I guess that we have to stop doing things provoking net releasing.

Isayso · 03/07/2018, 10:50 AM

Net release is a way of feeding, just wondering if we remove the fish and don't feed for a month or so... will they starve???

ivans · 03/07/2018, 02:08 PM

I didn’t remove fishes and snails starved.

becon776 · 03/07/2018, 02:38 PM

stopping feeding will do nothing. unless its for like a year. no changes in feeding will do anything ti help. they will be right there right as rain when yiu feed again

DarkSkyForever · 03/08/2018, 09:54 AM

I had a population of these start taking over in my tank, I stopped broadcast feeding, switched to pellets and only would drop a few in at a time until the fish stopped eating.

The snails eventually starved. I also would constantly crush the bases of their tubes so they'd have to spend energy on building a new one.

It took about two weeks before I stopped seeing new tubes. Now I don't have any in my tank and resumed my normal feeding habits.

Isayso · 03/08/2018, 10:49 AM

I switched to pellets a few weeks ago no more dust or powder or meaty food,
Their feeding nets are just a few
All my fish eat pellets which contain all kinds of nutrients from meat to algae
I will be doing this feeding for a few months and see what happens, I will keep you posted

gonioporagirl · 03/08/2018, 11:02 AM

I have the same problem! They are super annoying and creepy and are growing all over my zoanthid rock. I just had to take out the entire rock and snip off the tubes.

Sk8r · 03/08/2018, 12:43 PM

Some fish will eat them. How big is your tank?

ivans · 03/08/2018, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isayso

I switched to pellets a few weeks ago no more dust or powder or meaty food,
Their feeding nets are just a few
All my fish eat pellets which contain all kinds of nutrients from meat to algae
I will be doing this feeding for a few months and see what happens, I will keep you posted

Good luck. But I guess you will see a result earlier.

Isayso · 03/08/2018, 03:36 PM

Thanks, after I tried melanurus wrasse, Toby fish, Leopard wrasse, bumblebee snails
File fish, nothing worked... Nothing
So if this is another occasion to get rid of them I will try it..

hkgar · 03/09/2018, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sk8r

Some fish will eat them. How big is your tank?

What fish are known to eat them?

Isayso · 03/09/2018, 12:52 PM

For fis that didn't work for me. Read post #165

03/06/2018, 12:12 PM	#152
Isayso Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hamilton,ON.Canada Posts: 527	Did they starved to death?? __________________ lets save the reef Current Tank Info: Hardware: 125g Reef,Mak4 for return,DIY 20G sump,DIY Beckett Skimmer(AF30) driven by a Mak4,DIY S.Denitrator,DIY Calcium reactor(PM), wavemaker .MJ mods on Swirlestein,Jebao WP 20,Lighting: 60 LEDs, moon lights

03/06/2018, 04:41 PM	#155
Isayso Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hamilton,ON.Canada Posts: 527	Well that's a thought.... Remove all the fish and stop feeding the tank for a month or more __________________ lets save the reef Current Tank Info: Hardware: 125g Reef,Mak4 for return,DIY 20G sump,DIY Beckett Skimmer(AF30) driven by a Mak4,DIY S.Denitrator,DIY Calcium reactor(PM), wavemaker .MJ mods on Swirlestein,Jebao WP 20,Lighting: 60 LEDs, moon lights

03/07/2018, 10:50 AM	#157
Isayso Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hamilton,ON.Canada Posts: 527	Net release is a way of feeding, just wondering if we remove the fish and don't feed for a month or so... will they starve??? __________________ lets save the reef Current Tank Info: Hardware: 125g Reef,Mak4 for return,DIY 20G sump,DIY Beckett Skimmer(AF30) driven by a Mak4,DIY S.Denitrator,DIY Calcium reactor(PM), wavemaker .MJ mods on Swirlestein,Jebao WP 20,Lighting: 60 LEDs, moon lights

03/08/2018, 10:49 AM	#161
Isayso Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hamilton,ON.Canada Posts: 527	I switched to pellets a few weeks ago no more dust or powder or meaty food, Their feeding nets are just a few All my fish eat pellets which contain all kinds of nutrients from meat to algae I will be doing this feeding for a few months and see what happens, I will keep you posted __________________ lets save the reef Current Tank Info: Hardware: 125g Reef,Mak4 for return,DIY 20G sump,DIY Beckett Skimmer(AF30) driven by a Mak4,DIY S.Denitrator,DIY Calcium reactor(PM), wavemaker .MJ mods on Swirlestein,Jebao WP 20,Lighting: 60 LEDs, moon lights

03/08/2018, 12:43 PM	#163
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Some fish will eat them. How big is your tank? __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

03/06/2018, 11:56 AM	#151
ivans Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Lviv, Ukraine Posts: 18	I would add a little bit from my experience with battle against vermitides. I had them a lot. Especially the smaller ones. I’ve noticed their activity (I mean nets) after corals feeding by Preis V-Power and others similar things. Also after some movements of the rock, sand etc inside the tank. My tank is populated by several tangs, chromises, clown and six line wrasse. There are two hermits and one pistol shrimp. I feed them only by flacks and granulas. So, I’ve stopped feed corals by V-Power, optimized and increased flow (there are no dead zones, and as a result no mud). And voila - there are no vermitides! I’ve understood this just recently. They disappeared gradually. And corals are thriving.

03/06/2018, 12:37 PM	#153
Tripod1404 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,821	My leopard wrasse (M. meleagris) decimated the population of vermetid snails. It actually first started picking up small colonista snails. When colonista snail population dropped, leopard gained interest in vermetid snails. Leopard wrasses are long known to be snail eaters. They have been used by many to control parasitic pyramidellid snails. However, this is the 1st time I seen one eating vermetid snails. I had others that never showed any intrest to vermetid snails, but this guy loves to eat them. Of course like any predator-prey situation, it did not wipe them out. There are still some at places that leopard cant reach. But the population is greatly reduced.

03/06/2018, 10:18 PM	#156
ivans Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Lviv, Ukraine Posts: 18	I guess that we have to stop doing things provoking net releasing.

03/07/2018, 02:08 PM	#158
ivans Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Lviv, Ukraine Posts: 18	I didn’t remove fishes and snails starved.

03/07/2018, 02:38 PM	#159
becon776 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Irondequoit, ny Posts: 1,217	stopping feeding will do nothing. unless its for like a year. no changes in feeding will do anything ti help. they will be right there right as rain when yiu feed again

03/08/2018, 09:54 AM	#160
DarkSkyForever Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 92	I had a population of these start taking over in my tank, I stopped broadcast feeding, switched to pellets and only would drop a few in at a time until the fish stopped eating. The snails eventually starved. I also would constantly crush the bases of their tubes so they'd have to spend energy on building a new one. It took about two weeks before I stopped seeing new tubes. Now I don't have any in my tank and resumed my normal feeding habits.

03/08/2018, 11:02 AM	#162
gonioporagirl Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 39	I have the same problem! They are super annoying and creepy and are growing all over my zoanthid rock. I just had to take out the entire rock and snip off the tubes.

03/08/2018, 03:36 PM	#165
Isayso Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hamilton,ON.Canada Posts: 527	Thanks, after I tried melanurus wrasse, Toby fish, Leopard wrasse, bumblebee snails File fish, nothing worked... Nothing So if this is another occasion to get rid of them I will try it.. __________________ lets save the reef Current Tank Info: Hardware: 125g Reef,Mak4 for return,DIY 20G sump,DIY Beckett Skimmer(AF30) driven by a Mak4,DIY S.Denitrator,DIY Calcium reactor(PM), wavemaker .MJ mods on Swirlestein,Jebao WP 20,Lighting: 60 LEDs, moon lights

03/09/2018, 12:52 PM	#167
Isayso Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hamilton,ON.Canada Posts: 527	For fis that didn't work for me. Read post #165 __________________ lets save the reef Current Tank Info: Hardware: 125g Reef,Mak4 for return,DIY 20G sump,DIY Beckett Skimmer(AF30) driven by a Mak4,DIY S.Denitrator,DIY Calcium reactor(PM), wavemaker .MJ mods on Swirlestein,Jebao WP 20,Lighting: 60 LEDs, moon lights

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