Wild Onyx Clownfish. Take 3 - Page 25

CoralsAddiction · 12/23/2019, 11:33 PM

The darker one looks like a tank raised clown. The orange one is a misbar true percala. It could be wild caught because its dorsal and pelicans fins look very good, and no obvious deformities. Not sure about the tail. It's hard to see.

ThRoewer · 12/24/2019, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CoralsAddiction

The darker one looks like a tank raised clown. The orange one is a misbar true percala. It could be wild caught because its dorsal and pelicans fins look very good, and no obvious deformities. Not sure about the tail. It's hard to see.

Both are captive bred. They have been there for a while and AC hasn't gotten any wild ones recently.

CoralsAddiction · 12/24/2019, 01:20 PM

Potential "pregnancy" alert for the female.

ronalvio · 12/24/2019, 03:16 PM

Nice! I will take the babies when for sale!
You guys think that the black one is a photon? I think it is...
Ive decided to keep it and not send it back to AC... its now in my nem tank with the yellow mate...
AC had it listed as Onyx... I do not think I will ever trust a store selling Onyx unless its verified by the Onyx experts on this board! LOL

ThRoewer · 12/24/2019, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ronalvio

Nice! I will take the babies when for sale!
You guys think that the black one is a photon? I think it is...
Ive decided to keep it and not send it back to AC... its now in my nem tank with the yellow mate...
AC had it listed as Onyx... I do not think I will ever trust a store selling Onyx unless its verified by the Onyx experts on this board! LOL

Look if the soft fins have a thin whitish halo between the outermost black and the clear edges of the fins. This halo is only found in ocellaris and ocellaris hybrids, but never in pure percula.

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ronalvio · 12/24/2019, 03:46 PM

I will check .... which set of fins tho?

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ronalvio · 12/24/2019, 04:18 PM

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ronalvio · 12/24/2019, 04:18 PM

Here are some
Pics I can’t tell?

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ThRoewer · 12/24/2019, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ronalvio

I will check .... which set of fins tho?

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Only the soft-rayed fins.

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ronalvio · 12/24/2019, 07:47 PM

I looked and yes most of the occerlais have a white outline around their fins... My Percs do not seem to have this.

In regard to this new fish... it does have the halo... I looked around the tail and it had a whitish outline

ronalvio · 12/24/2019, 07:49 PM

Here is a small size pic. Thoughts?

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ronalvio · 12/24/2019, 07:51 PM

More pics

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ronalvio · 12/24/2019, 08:44 PM

Sorry again for the large pics. not sure how to edit them down.
My first pic with the iphone gave me size option. I guess you post one at a time?

ThRoewer · 12/25/2019, 01:30 PM

Yeah, I think it's a black photon.

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ronalvio · 12/25/2019, 04:45 PM

Its a nice fish... very sharp colors... just hate that AC labelled this onyx.
I even asked the worker and he said that unless the distributor really messed up, that it is an onyx and not a photon.

Like I said, im not buying any in a store anymore.

Merry Xmas!

ThRoewer · 12/25/2019, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ronalvio

Its a nice fish... very sharp colors... just hate that AC labelled this onyx.
I even asked the worker and he said that unless the distributor really messed up, that it is an onyx and not a photon.

Like I said, im not buying any in a store anymore.

Merry Xmas!

You need to ask the owner, he usually knows if it's a wild fish or not. And if he doesn't know he says so as well.

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ronalvio · 12/25/2019, 07:32 PM

ive corrected them before. 6 months ago they had percs mislabelled as Occy.
This time I was fooled- the fish has the perc eye but the dorsal is little high....
I was having that feeling that it might be a photon but the employee said that it was an onyx...
ill buy from reputable sellers next time.... onyx that is.

ronalvio · 12/25/2019, 07:39 PM

The other fish- the little yellow one is quite awesome. Very friendly and looks funny with its little stubby tail.

CoralsAddiction · 01/01/2020, 01:17 AM

Man, these clowns really like their coral as a host. They might need to go to another tank if the clowns keep it up because I want my coral to be happy as much as fish. I had just drilled and plumbed a 20 gallon for a spawning pair of clowns. However, I might need to come up with a better setup because the overflow box wasn't too happy about a divider I put in the tank as a test.

ronalvio · 01/23/2020, 10:06 PM

How is the new set up working out

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CoralsAddiction · 01/25/2020, 12:00 AM

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How is the new set up working out

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That setup didn't work out well. The better way to make is actually to drill a drain and a return for each section but I didn't want to do it.

CoralsAddiction · 01/25/2020, 12:05 AM

So the clown pair is actually in QT. They've gotten Crypto (Ich) from a small Cherub angel that wasn't QT'd because it was in a coral "reef" section of a fish store rather than the main fish system.
They had started with hyposalinity which they did not tolerate well enough to keep it going. So I raised the salinity and added copper (2ppm). They're eating now but the white spots on them have gotten worse. I'm hoping the copper kicks in soon unless this specific strain of ich has developed resistance to copper somehow. In that case I might have to lower salinity again which before stressed them out to the point of not eating. TBD.

Finally the main system has been upgraded to 40B with a 20L sump mainly for coral. While almost everything did well in the Lagoon 25 tank there literally was no room for more growth for my leathers and Euphyllias.

12/25/2019, 01:30 PM	#614
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	Yeah, I think it's a black photon. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

12/23/2019, 11:33 PM	#601
CoralsAddiction Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: L.A./Tahoe Posts: 6,003	The darker one looks like a tank raised clown. The orange one is a misbar true percala. It could be wild caught because its dorsal and pelicans fins look very good, and no obvious deformities. Not sure about the tail. It's hard to see.

12/24/2019, 01:20 PM	#603
CoralsAddiction Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: L.A./Tahoe Posts: 6,003	Potential "pregnancy" alert for the female.

12/24/2019, 03:16 PM	#604
ronalvio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 53	Nice! I will take the babies when for sale! You guys think that the black one is a photon? I think it is... Ive decided to keep it and not send it back to AC... its now in my nem tank with the yellow mate... AC had it listed as Onyx... I do not think I will ever trust a store selling Onyx unless its verified by the Onyx experts on this board! LOL

12/24/2019, 03:46 PM	#606
ronalvio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 53	I will check .... which set of fins tho? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12/24/2019, 04:18 PM	#607
ronalvio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 53	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12/24/2019, 04:18 PM	#608
ronalvio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 53	Here are some Pics I can’t tell? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12/24/2019, 07:47 PM	#610
ronalvio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 53	I looked and yes most of the occerlais have a white outline around their fins... My Percs do not seem to have this. In regard to this new fish... it does have the halo... I looked around the tail and it had a whitish outline

12/24/2019, 07:49 PM	#611
ronalvio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 53	Here is a small size pic. Thoughts? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12/24/2019, 07:51 PM	#612
ronalvio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 53	More pics Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12/24/2019, 08:44 PM	#613
ronalvio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 53	Sorry again for the large pics. not sure how to edit them down. My first pic with the iphone gave me size option. I guess you post one at a time?

12/25/2019, 04:45 PM	#615
ronalvio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 53	Its a nice fish... very sharp colors... just hate that AC labelled this onyx. I even asked the worker and he said that unless the distributor really messed up, that it is an onyx and not a photon. Like I said, im not buying any in a store anymore. Merry Xmas!

12/25/2019, 07:32 PM	#617
ronalvio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 53	ive corrected them before. 6 months ago they had percs mislabelled as Occy. This time I was fooled- the fish has the perc eye but the dorsal is little high.... I was having that feeling that it might be a photon but the employee said that it was an onyx... ill buy from reputable sellers next time.... onyx that is.

12/25/2019, 07:39 PM	#618
ronalvio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 53	The other fish- the little yellow one is quite awesome. Very friendly and looks funny with its little stubby tail.

01/01/2020, 01:17 AM	#619
CoralsAddiction Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: L.A./Tahoe Posts: 6,003	Man, these clowns really like their coral as a host. They might need to go to another tank if the clowns keep it up because I want my coral to be happy as much as fish. I had just drilled and plumbed a 20 gallon for a spawning pair of clowns. However, I might need to come up with a better setup because the overflow box wasn't too happy about a divider I put in the tank as a test.

01/23/2020, 10:06 PM	#620
ronalvio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 53	How is the new set up working out Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01/25/2020, 12:05 AM	#622
CoralsAddiction Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: L.A./Tahoe Posts: 6,003	So the clown pair is actually in QT. They've gotten Crypto (Ich) from a small Cherub angel that wasn't QT'd because it was in a coral "reef" section of a fish store rather than the main fish system. They had started with hyposalinity which they did not tolerate well enough to keep it going. So I raised the salinity and added copper (2ppm). They're eating now but the white spots on them have gotten worse. I'm hoping the copper kicks in soon unless this specific strain of ich has developed resistance to copper somehow. In that case I might have to lower salinity again which before stressed them out to the point of not eating. TBD. Finally the main system has been upgraded to 40B with a 20L sump mainly for coral. While almost everything did well in the Lagoon 25 tank there literally was no room for more growth for my leathers and Euphyllias.