Official: Masterflex Calcium Reactor Setup Thread - Page 55

ssdawood · 07/28/2015, 09:45 AM

He has one digital left and three not digital.

I bought two digital myself. He is taking 200 shipped.

hkgar · 07/28/2015, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ssdawood

Now the main question.

I have a 90 gallon in my living room and a 60 gallon in my spare room.

Can I use one masterflex on the effluent to feed the 90 and the other masterflex on the same effluent to feed the 60 gallon tank.

Basically I am trying to use one reactor, one regulator and ine tank to run two independent systems.

I figured with two masterflex I can use two different effluent rates and keep alkalinity stable on both tanks.

Can this be done.

I think it would be difficult at best. When you change the effluent rate you change the ph of the effluent as the flow through the reactor changes this changes the ALK of the effluent.

ssdawood · 07/28/2015, 02:21 PM

^^^ very true. I forgot changing the effluent will change the pH .

Any other ideas to run two tanks with one reactor.

ssdawood · 07/28/2015, 02:23 PM

What if I have two effluent holes in the reactor to pull out two effluents. Still no ?

ssdawood · 07/28/2015, 02:26 PM

Say I pull 15 ml a minute for one tank and 30 ml for my 90 a minute

So total ml is 45 per minute . Does it really matter if I pull 45 ml from one effluent or two seperate effluent holes

hkgar · 07/28/2015, 02:34 PM

No but each tank is going to have different usage rates. If you have enough patients, I suppose you could reach a balance point. But, one you reach a balance point for one tank, the other will be out of whack, then you change that one and the other goes out. You could probably keep getting closer to balance, but once demand in one tank changes here you go again.

Any chance you could put both tanks together on one system, i.e., 2 tanks one sump.

ssdawood · 07/28/2015, 02:39 PM

What if I store the effluent in a dosing container and then dose the elffuent from it with a masterflex.

Lol I am sounding crazy now.

ssdawood · 07/28/2015, 02:40 PM

But you are right. This has never been done because it cannot be done.

zachts · 07/28/2015, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ssdawood

^^^ very true. I forgot changing the effluent will change the pH .

Any other ideas to run two tanks with one reactor.

Plumb them to the same sump?

ssdawood · 07/28/2015, 07:57 PM

^^^ not possible . I wanted to seperate systems

swk · 07/28/2015, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ssdawood

^^^ not possible . I wanted to seperate systems

Well then a shared reactor would share water between the 2 tanks. Or am I missing something?

ssdawood · 07/29/2015, 04:12 AM

Yes that would be another problem too. So I can use one co2 bottle and setup two reactors near each tank. Then use the masterflex to pump effluent in each tank.

naterealbig · 07/29/2015, 07:38 AM

Hi everyone! First off, that you to everyone who is taking the time to answer the questions on this thread. I purchased a used Cole Parmer dosing pump, rated for continuous duty (don't remember the model of the top of my head).

In the users manual, there is wiring instructions to hook up a switch to turn the pump on and off. Any reason I couldn't use this for my Kalk reactor until I buy a calcium reactor?

swk · 07/29/2015, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by naterealbig

Hi everyone! First off, that you to everyone who is taking the time to answer the questions on this thread. I purchased a used Cole Parmer dosing pump, rated for continuous duty (don't remember the model of the top of my head).

In the users manual, there is wiring instructions to hook up a switch to turn the pump on and off. Any reason I couldn't use this for my Kalk reactor until I buy a calcium reactor?

It'd be perfect for kalk or ato too

ssdawood · 07/29/2015, 03:16 PM

Got two questions.

Can you buy ac power cord for these pumps.

Also I have a modular setup. Is there any way to buy cable to extend from drive to motor.

slief · 07/29/2015, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ssdawood

Got two questions.

Can you buy ac power cord for these pumps.

Also I have a modular setup. Is there any way to buy cable to extend from drive to motor.

I can't answer the extension cord question but the AC power inlet should be the same one used on most computers. You should be able to find one of those at Best Buy, Fry's, Radio Shack, pretty much any electronics store and maybe even Home Depot.. Hell, my Pioneer home theater receiver uses the same power cord.

ssdawood · 07/29/2015, 05:55 PM

^^^ Thanks. Anything to look for. I mean any ac cord will do or do I have to match some numbers etc.

slief · 07/29/2015, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ssdawood

^^^ Thanks. Anything to look for. I mean any ac cord will do or do I have to match some numbers etc.

Do you have a computer at home? Not a laptop but a full size computer? If so, pull the power cord out and see if it fits. It should and if it does, any computer style power cord will have sufficient gauge wires to work with your Masterflex.

naterealbig · 07/29/2015, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by swk

It'd be perfect for kalk or ato too

Thank you so much swk!

hkgar · 07/30/2015, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ssdawood

^^^ Thanks. Anything to look for. I mean any ac cord will do or do I have to match some numbers etc.

Just need to match the female end. There are about 3 designs. I went to my local computer store (independent, not national) and they had a box of them and just gave me one.

hkgar · 07/30/2015, 12:27 PM

I use a Masterflex for ATO.

africangrey · 07/30/2015, 04:09 PM

Any feedback on Cole-Parmer Masterflex 77521-50 Console Drive w/ Easy Load II 77201-60, I am able to get this one for cheap ~$150, do any of you know if the head is brushless and able to handle L/S 17 tubing for 60-120 ml/min, thanks.

scuzy · 07/30/2015, 04:12 PM

the head is brush less and I think that masterflex would work

tgbaby1 · 07/30/2015, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ssdawood

So I did picked up two 77301 digital brushless units from ebay for 200 each.

Seller is frost liquidation and he has three more units for sale. He will accept best offer of 200 shipped on these.

If anyone is interested

Got mine today, shipped same day.

swk · 07/30/2015, 08:25 PM

Nice!

07/28/2015, 09:45 AM	#1351
ssdawood Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Wappingers Falls Posts: 324	He has one digital left and three not digital. I bought two digital myself. He is taking 200 shipped. __________________ Elos 120, ATI Led Powermodule , Hopefully SPS dominated reef

07/28/2015, 02:21 PM	#1353
ssdawood Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Wappingers Falls Posts: 324	^^^ very true. I forgot changing the effluent will change the pH . Any other ideas to run two tanks with one reactor. __________________ Elos 120, ATI Led Powermodule , Hopefully SPS dominated reef

07/28/2015, 02:23 PM	#1354
ssdawood Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Wappingers Falls Posts: 324	What if I have two effluent holes in the reactor to pull out two effluents. Still no ? __________________ Elos 120, ATI Led Powermodule , Hopefully SPS dominated reef

07/28/2015, 02:26 PM	#1355
ssdawood Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Wappingers Falls Posts: 324	Say I pull 15 ml a minute for one tank and 30 ml for my 90 a minute So total ml is 45 per minute . Does it really matter if I pull 45 ml from one effluent or two seperate effluent holes __________________ Elos 120, ATI Led Powermodule , Hopefully SPS dominated reef

07/28/2015, 02:34 PM	#1356
hkgar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dewitt MI Posts: 5,051	No but each tank is going to have different usage rates. If you have enough patients, I suppose you could reach a balance point. But, one you reach a balance point for one tank, the other will be out of whack, then you change that one and the other goes out. You could probably keep getting closer to balance, but once demand in one tank changes here you go again. Any chance you could put both tanks together on one system, i.e., 2 tanks one sump. __________________ Gary 180 gallon, 40 gallon sump, 3 250 W MH + 4 80W ATI T5's, MTC MVX 36 Skimmer, Apex controller Aquamaxx T-3 CaRx Current Tank Info: A 2 Barred Rabbitfish, Red Head Salon, Yellow/Purple, McMaster Fairy, Possum, 2 Leopard Wrasses, Kole, & Atlantic Blue Tangs, 2 Percula Clown, 3 PJ and 1 Banggai Cardinalfish , Swallowtail, Bellus and Coral Beauty Angels

07/28/2015, 02:39 PM	#1357
ssdawood Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Wappingers Falls Posts: 324	What if I store the effluent in a dosing container and then dose the elffuent from it with a masterflex. Lol I am sounding crazy now. __________________ Elos 120, ATI Led Powermodule , Hopefully SPS dominated reef

07/28/2015, 02:40 PM	#1358
ssdawood Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Wappingers Falls Posts: 324	But you are right. This has never been done because it cannot be done. __________________ Elos 120, ATI Led Powermodule , Hopefully SPS dominated reef

07/28/2015, 07:57 PM	#1360
ssdawood Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Wappingers Falls Posts: 324	^^^ not possible . I wanted to seperate systems __________________ Elos 120, ATI Led Powermodule , Hopefully SPS dominated reef

07/29/2015, 04:12 AM	#1362
ssdawood Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Wappingers Falls Posts: 324	Yes that would be another problem too. So I can use one co2 bottle and setup two reactors near each tank. Then use the masterflex to pump effluent in each tank. __________________ Elos 120, ATI Led Powermodule , Hopefully SPS dominated reef

07/29/2015, 07:38 AM	#1363
naterealbig Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,252	Hi everyone! First off, that you to everyone who is taking the time to answer the questions on this thread. I purchased a used Cole Parmer dosing pump, rated for continuous duty (don't remember the model of the top of my head). In the users manual, there is wiring instructions to hook up a switch to turn the pump on and off. Any reason I couldn't use this for my Kalk reactor until I buy a calcium reactor? __________________ My skimmate has notes of saffron, and a hint of lilac.

07/29/2015, 03:16 PM	#1365
ssdawood Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Wappingers Falls Posts: 324	Got two questions. Can you buy ac power cord for these pumps. Also I have a modular setup. Is there any way to buy cable to extend from drive to motor. __________________ Elos 120, ATI Led Powermodule , Hopefully SPS dominated reef

07/29/2015, 05:55 PM	#1367
ssdawood Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Wappingers Falls Posts: 324	^^^ Thanks. Anything to look for. I mean any ac cord will do or do I have to match some numbers etc. __________________ Elos 120, ATI Led Powermodule , Hopefully SPS dominated reef

07/30/2015, 12:27 PM	#1371
hkgar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dewitt MI Posts: 5,051	I use a Masterflex for ATO. __________________ Gary 180 gallon, 40 gallon sump, 3 250 W MH + 4 80W ATI T5's, MTC MVX 36 Skimmer, Apex controller Aquamaxx T-3 CaRx Current Tank Info: A 2 Barred Rabbitfish, Red Head Salon, Yellow/Purple, McMaster Fairy, Possum, 2 Leopard Wrasses, Kole, & Atlantic Blue Tangs, 2 Percula Clown, 3 PJ and 1 Banggai Cardinalfish , Swallowtail, Bellus and Coral Beauty Angels

07/30/2015, 04:09 PM	#1372
africangrey Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N San Jose Posts: 1,483	Any feedback on Cole-Parmer Masterflex 77521-50 Console Drive w/ Easy Load II 77201-60, I am able to get this one for cheap ~$150, do any of you know if the head is brushless and able to handle L/S 17 tubing for 60-120 ml/min, thanks.

07/30/2015, 04:12 PM	#1373
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	the head is brush less and I think that masterflex would work

07/30/2015, 08:25 PM	#1375
swk Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Wine Country CA Posts: 2,593	Nice! __________________ Member of Wine Country Reefers Current Tank Info: 75 gal SPS dominant reef. Geo calcium reactor with masterflex pump, Deltec 1455 skimmer, 2 mp40QD, mp10wes, lit by a 6x54 dimable ATI sunpower and controlled by Reef Angel