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Unread 09/13/2010, 04:25 PM   #51
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LUV951, a friend of mine has a new MP10W (non ES) and it does make some noise. after a few weeks, it has quieted down.
Vortech pumps will never be DEAD silent like a full internal pump. this is because there is no water to hide or muffle the sounds of the pumps.


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Unread 09/13/2010, 06:15 PM   #52
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That's reassuring. Thanks!


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Unread 10/06/2010, 08:10 AM   #53
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nice.. cool thread.. thanks


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Unread 10/06/2010, 09:13 AM   #54
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Glad it helped.

Has anyone else ventured into doing this


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Unread 10/06/2010, 01:25 PM   #55
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i did and used ceramic bearings first didnt like the sound of it , then changed those to steal bearings, now it woks great and i cant even hear it,


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Unread 10/06/2010, 02:06 PM   #56
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really!! thats very interesting to know.
do you think they were just cheap ceramic bearings, or needed to break in, or do you not know? (very curious)
also, do you think it could be from installing them? maybe ceramic bearings are too delicate to be pressed on?


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Unread 10/06/2010, 02:14 PM   #57
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Does anyone have a link to the press for the bearings?

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Unread 10/06/2010, 02:25 PM   #58
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+1 , i need to buy some as well..


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Unread 10/06/2010, 02:27 PM   #59
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Hi Ed !!


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Unread 10/06/2010, 02:33 PM   #60
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i used a bearing press. and on the other side, i just used 2 screw drivers. (just be careful!!!)

and i used something like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SMALL...motiveQ5fTools


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Unread 10/06/2010, 02:36 PM   #61
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Unread 10/06/2010, 02:41 PM   #62
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Mario!! let me know where you buy your bearings.. i need some as well. I have one noisy pump..


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Unread 10/06/2010, 02:42 PM   #63
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NP Ed I'll check the local hobby shop and pm you.


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Unread 10/13/2010, 12:42 PM   #64
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Any updates from anyone who's replaced their bearings? I picked up a used MP40 and it's noisy enough to hear from 20ft away (whirring sound, more evident during when rpms ramp up). I plan on replacing the bearings and will see what's available locally at the RC shops; otherwise, bocabearings.com has alot of options.

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Unread 10/13/2010, 01:04 PM   #65
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Can anyone tell me what the correct order of the washers is? I pulled mine apart ages ago and forgot the order of the washers that sit between the bearings and the motor casing.


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Unread 10/13/2010, 01:27 PM   #66
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i think mine just had a spring washer and a flat washer. in page 1, you can see the spring washer toward the bearing/mag. so i would say put it there, and the flat washers if any between the spring washer and case.

the washers go on the back side of the Dry side. that way they push toward the glass and arnt fighting the magnets pulling on each other.


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Unread 10/13/2010, 02:02 PM   #67
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Great thread, David! Very well done and easy to understand.


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Unread 10/13/2010, 02:57 PM   #68
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this is a fantastic thread. I have been shopping for a bargain MP40, but was afraid to get a worn one. Nice to know you can upgrade some major problems easily even for an old one.

I also heard that you can do a firmware upgrade of a GEN1 to a GEN2, but until I get my hands on one I can't verify it.


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Unread 10/13/2010, 03:28 PM   #69
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i think mine just had a spring washer and a flat washer. in page 1, you can see the spring washer toward the bearing/mag. so i would say put it there, and the flat washers if any between the spring washer and case.

the washers go on the back side of the Dry side. that way they push toward the glass and arnt fighting the magnets pulling on each other.
That makes sense. I'm at work now so it will have to wait until this evening.
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Unread 10/13/2010, 05:12 PM   #70
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really!! thats very interesting to know.
do you think they were just cheap ceramic bearings, or needed to break in, or do you not know? (very curious)
also, do you think it could be from installing them? maybe ceramic bearings are too delicate to be pressed on?
dont know i did wait for week or so to see if the sound would get better, but it did't change , now that i think about that they may be, about installing them i was carefull too, i dont think that was a reason.


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Unread 10/13/2010, 06:46 PM   #71
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i picked up a noisy mp40 also. ordered my bearings. abec 5, non ceramic. ~$30 shipped for 2 abec 5 bearings, and hopefully a quiet MP40!


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Unread 10/13/2010, 06:58 PM   #72
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These bearings can be purchased from Grainger either online or at your local store.


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Unread 10/13/2010, 07:17 PM   #73
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These bearings can be purchased from Grainger either online or at your local store.
yes, you can find these bearings anywhere.
Local bearing stores, Hobby stores, Online for sure!


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Unread 10/13/2010, 08:01 PM   #74
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These bearings can be purchased from Grainger either online or at your local store.
I couldnt find any of the 698zz 8x19x6 size on grainger's website, am I missing something?


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Call them. They have good sales people that can cross it.


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