Algae Scrubber Basics - Page 348

Floyd R Turbo · 07/16/2016, 09:22 PM

Took this video today - tutorial for making a Mortar Screen

SantaMonica · 07/16/2016, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Does anyone have experience with durso feed ATS?
-do I need like an emergency Tee if it ever plugged up?
-will air in the durso's affect the waterfall, or not be an even flow?

I've seen many of these. I don't think I remember of one case of it plugging up. And air will actually help the growth because of the additional air/water interface turbulence.

zachtos · 07/16/2016, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SantaMonica

I've seen many of these. I don't think I remember of one case of it plugging up. And air will actually help the growth because of the additional air/water interface turbulence.

Do you think if all my durso drain into the ATS waterfall, that it will eliminate the durso created micro bubbles?

(Can I avoid a bubble trap/baffles with this design?)

OllieNZ · 07/17/2016, 04:28 AM

Thoughts on using some coarse wet 'n' dry sand paper as a substrate for an angled trough type scrubber?

Floyd R Turbo · 07/17/2016, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by OllieNZ

Thoughts on using some coarse wet 'n' dry sand paper as a substrate for an angled trough type scrubber?

IMO not a good idea, both from a material viewpoint (probably some glue or adhesive, plus the cloth will deteriorate, etc) and from a functional viewpoint.

OllieNZ · 07/17/2016, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floyd R Turbo

IMO not a good idea, both from a material viewpoint (probably some glue or adhesive, plus the cloth will deteriorate, etc) and from a functional viewpoint.

Cheers Floyd,
It was just a thought after seeing the mortar coated screens.

Floyd R Turbo · 07/17/2016, 07:48 AM

No problem, the only bad question is the one not asked!

OllieNZ · 07/17/2016, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Floyd R Turbo

No problem, the only bad question is the one not asked!

Agreed, now to get off my lazy butt and build it.

Devaji108 · 07/17/2016, 01:05 PM

critique my ATS scrubber plz:

Ok ATS guys made a DIY up flow scrubber. started out very slow in growth. rised some slime off once then just left it be for 2 weeks with light on most of the time ( 4 red 660nm LEDS) this is how it looked:

in sump:
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...2bde3b280a.jpg

turf growing on glass:
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...c27410bc29.jpg

how it looks when I took it out for 1st real cleaning:
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...2bafcbb1cf.jpg

whit i got from cleaning:
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...39d80ec02c.jpg

how I left it. you can see the ring of growth..
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...45d752e2c5.jpg

no after cleaning back in sump it went for 7 days 6 days of 24/7 lighting and the last day I turned off lights. ( was gonna let it grow for a few more days but then realized it was a week since cleaning so went ahead.)

here is where we are at: sorry for the large photos tapatalk loaded them large for some reason.)
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...6c2a5f820c.jpg

before cleaning: you can see the ring of growth.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...bb4b5fb80b.jpg

and after cleaning.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...30e1cd929d.jpg

looks like the circle of growth has expanded. & i am happy of the turf I got in 6 days. a good hand full.

so my questions are:
think I am running to much lighting schedule?
what are your guys lighting schedule? 18 on 6 off?
how can I get the roots of the turf to expand to all of growth area?
on average how often do you guys clean your ATS?
what happens if the air bubbles are a bit off the screen ( that might be my problem )

any and all feedback is welcome!

SantaMonica · 07/17/2016, 02:52 PM

Nice upflow, and great first growth. Don't need to change anything if it's doing that well to start with. The growth will spread by itself. Just clean it when full.

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Do you think if all my durso drain into the ATS waterfall, that it will eliminate the durso created micro bubbles?

Probably not, because the waterfall will add its own bubbles.

Devaji108 · 07/17/2016, 03:39 PM

thanks SM. that's what I thought. but want to ask the comunnity what there lights schedule are, etc.

SantaMonica · 07/17/2016, 11:26 PM

Weekend growth pics:

niladride · 07/18/2016, 11:49 AM

Ok almost 3 weeks now and here is my growth. This is specially for Floyd and Santa Monica, suggestions went really well, but I am still getting algae in DT

SantaMonica · 07/18/2016, 01:01 PM

Wait a few months.

niladride · 07/18/2016, 01:07 PM

Should I use skimmer too?

niladride · 07/18/2016, 01:08 PM

Also what do you think about the growth? Do I need to change/add anything?

Thanks,

Niladri

SantaMonica · 07/18/2016, 02:51 PM

Growth is great for a first two weeks. If you post pics of your tank, and what you are trying to do, it would be easier to recommend things.

niladride · 07/18/2016, 10:47 PM

Yes sure, will do that.

niladride · 07/19/2016, 04:40 AM

I would also like to add that I am setting up a refugium, have already ordered Chaeto macro algae, I am in search for some dead rocks and sand right now to fill the refugium.

daniel02 · 07/19/2016, 09:09 AM

17meter tank use Lumini asta 150 light color is nice

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Floyd R Turbo · 07/19/2016, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel02

17meter tank use Lumini asta 150 light color is nice

从我的 iPhone 发送，使用 Tapatalk

Spammer? What does this have to do with algae scrubbers bruh?

niladride · 07/19/2016, 10:15 AM

^

Floyd do you want to add something with Santa Monica's opinion regarding the ATS growth? Am I lacking something?

jason2459 · 07/25/2016, 09:23 AM

Not sure why santa monica didn't post this here.

His take on a pipe waterfall.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...php?p=24647090

Floyd R Turbo · 07/25/2016, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niladride

^

Floyd do you want to add something with Santa Monica's opinion regarding the ATS growth? Am I lacking something?

Busy week, never got back to the thread...I was waiting on more info also I guess. Nothing different to add really. Si your screen well roughed up?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason2459

Not sure why santa monica didn't post this here.

His take on a pipe waterfall.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...php?p=24647090

Interesting idea, glad I didn't recommend that everyone put all their algae scrubber builds on hold for 6 months though. The only reason I haven't updated the Algae Scrubber Basics is because I haven't had enough time.

I don't know what the hold up was on "revealing" this because I don't see any new publications in USPTO or WIPO.

bheron · 07/25/2016, 03:03 PM

Hey all, following the great detail and advice here I constructed my first ATS a few months ago. Seemed to work great, got some great growth. This is the kind of growth I was getting:

Eventually I got the Algae problem in my display tank totally under control and around the same time growth on my ATS seemed to stop. I didnt do any cleanings b/c I believe its seasoned. So I let it go for a few weeks. This is what it looks like today:

Besides the color the stuff feels like hard jelly or silicone. Kinda like a jellyfish.

Is this what happens when there's not enough nutrients to feed the ATS?
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07/16/2016, 09:22 PM	#8676
Floyd R Turbo Either busy or sleeping Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: West Des Moines, IA Posts: 4,265 Blog Entries: 15	Took this video today - tutorial for making a Mortar Screen __________________ Algae Scrubber Basics!!! GOOGLE "algaescrubber zoho" General Interest Forums --> Advanced Topics --> Algae Scrubber Basics (sticky) --> POSTS #3251-64 (Basics), #5206 (Cleaning), #6884 (LEDs), #729

07/17/2016, 04:28 AM	#8679
OllieNZ Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK Posts: 569	Thoughts on using some coarse wet 'n' dry sand paper as a substrate for an angled trough type scrubber? __________________ "Perhaps it is boredom, not intelligence, that has propelled humans up the evolutionary ladder." _________ Reefed out

07/17/2016, 07:48 AM	#8682
Floyd R Turbo Either busy or sleeping Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: West Des Moines, IA Posts: 4,265 Blog Entries: 15	No problem, the only bad question is the one not asked! __________________ Algae Scrubber Basics!!! GOOGLE "algaescrubber zoho" General Interest Forums --> Advanced Topics --> Algae Scrubber Basics (sticky) --> POSTS #3251-64 (Basics), #5206 (Cleaning), #6884 (LEDs), #729

07/18/2016, 01:01 PM	#8689
SantaMonica Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santa Monica, California, USA Posts: 2,511	Wait a few months. __________________ Inventor of the easy-to-DIY upflow scrubber, and also the waterfall scrubber that everyone loves to build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1424843

07/18/2016, 02:51 PM	#8692
SantaMonica Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santa Monica, California, USA Posts: 2,511	Growth is great for a first two weeks. If you post pics of your tank, and what you are trying to do, it would be easier to recommend things. __________________ Inventor of the easy-to-DIY upflow scrubber, and also the waterfall scrubber that everyone loves to build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1424843

07/17/2016, 01:05 PM	#8684
Devaji108 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Jackson Hole Wy Posts: 3,430	critique my ATS scrubber plz: Ok ATS guys made a DIY up flow scrubber. started out very slow in growth. rised some slime off once then just left it be for 2 weeks with light on most of the time ( 4 red 660nm LEDS) this is how it looked: in sump: http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...2bde3b280a.jpg turf growing on glass: http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...c27410bc29.jpg how it looks when I took it out for 1st real cleaning: http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...2bafcbb1cf.jpg whit i got from cleaning: http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...39d80ec02c.jpg how I left it. you can see the ring of growth.. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...45d752e2c5.jpg no after cleaning back in sump it went for 7 days 6 days of 24/7 lighting and the last day I turned off lights. ( was gonna let it grow for a few more days but then realized it was a week since cleaning so went ahead.) here is where we are at: sorry for the large photos tapatalk loaded them large for some reason.) http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...6c2a5f820c.jpg before cleaning: you can see the ring of growth. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...bb4b5fb80b.jpg and after cleaning. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...30e1cd929d.jpg looks like the circle of growth has expanded. & i am happy of the turf I got in 6 days. a good hand full. so my questions are: think I am running to much lighting schedule? what are your guys lighting schedule? 18 on 6 off? how can I get the roots of the turf to expand to all of growth area? on average how often do you guys clean your ATS? what happens if the air bubbles are a bit off the screen ( that might be my problem ) any and all feedback is welcome!

07/17/2016, 03:39 PM	#8686
Devaji108 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Jackson Hole Wy Posts: 3,430	thanks SM. that's what I thought. but want to ask the comunnity what there lights schedule are, etc.

07/18/2016, 01:07 PM	#8690
niladride Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 567	Should I use skimmer too?

07/18/2016, 01:08 PM	#8691
niladride Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 567	Also what do you think about the growth? Do I need to change/add anything? Thanks, Niladri

07/18/2016, 10:47 PM	#8693
niladride Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 567	Yes sure, will do that.

07/19/2016, 04:40 AM	#8694
niladride Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 567	I would also like to add that I am setting up a refugium, have already ordered Chaeto macro algae, I am in search for some dead rocks and sand right now to fill the refugium.

07/19/2016, 09:09 AM	#8695
daniel02 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 12	17meter tank use Lumini asta 150 light color is nice 从我的 iPhone 发送，使用 Tapatalk

07/19/2016, 10:15 AM	#8697
niladride Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 567	^ Floyd do you want to add something with Santa Monica's opinion regarding the ATS growth? Am I lacking something?

07/25/2016, 09:23 AM	#8698
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Not sure why santa monica didn't post this here. His take on a pipe waterfall. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...php?p=24647090 __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

07/25/2016, 03:03 PM	#8700
bheron Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Valley Forge, PA Posts: 2,655	Hey all, following the great detail and advice here I constructed my first ATS a few months ago. Seemed to work great, got some great growth. This is the kind of growth I was getting: Eventually I got the Algae problem in my display tank totally under control and around the same time growth on my ATS seemed to stop. I didnt do any cleanings b/c I believe its seasoned. So I let it go for a few weeks. This is what it looks like today: Besides the color the stuff feels like hard jelly or silicone. Kinda like a jellyfish. Is this what happens when there's not enough nutrients to feed the ATS? __ __ __________________ Bryan Current Tank Info: 220 since Nov 2005

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