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07/25/2016, 04:31 PM | #8701 |
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I can see this working with a ring of LED lights (inner donut ring) but with one source, it's not a large surface area or very efficient use of both sides of the screen? Maybe if the screen rotates slowly over time to get some light all the way around? Still, the overall area seems small? Could be ideal for a small tank?
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07/25/2016, 04:35 PM | #8702 |
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07/25/2016, 05:01 PM | #8703 | |
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So wondering if this junk is a result of high water flow and good LED lighting over my ATS but low nutrients maybe?
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07/25/2016, 05:03 PM | #8704 |
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That type of growth is typically indicative of too much light compared to nutrients available. So you might want to back down the light period, and intensity if you can.
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07/25/2016, 07:18 PM | #8705 |
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Looks bacterial? Are you sure the dinos are gone?
Keep feeding until you see hints of hair algae in the DT.
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Thanks all.
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First week and first quick swipe
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07/28/2016, 09:05 AM | #8708 |
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Nice start! While everyone's scrubber seems to act differently, due to many factors I presume, I still see this rapid-start happen more frequently on tanks that have already had a scrubber running on them. What's interesting about your is that you took the scrubber off while you went through your dino experiment, didn't you? Or did you leave it on there?
Anyways, more and more often it does seem that a tank that has ran a scrubber for a while gets somewhat "conditioned", such that when the screen is replaced it rapidly matures. I've seen this with the mortar screen and also without it actually (with just a roughed up canvas screen). I'm still waiting for that lotto hit so I can research this stuff, or pay someone to do it for me....
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07/28/2016, 10:25 AM | #8709 |
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Yep I waited until after the dino vs metro testing.
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07/28/2016, 10:34 AM | #8710 |
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hmmmm...
There is research that indicates that algae changes the environment's chemistry to suit their optimal growth. That may or may not conflict with what is optimal for coral. Macroalgae seem to release chemicals that slow or inhibit the attachment of coral. I don't remember the article I read that, but it was recent. I wonder if hair algae setting up shop for an extended duration in an ATS causes a chemical alignment so that the hair is well positioned in enough locations elsewhere that it can regenerate on a screen as soon as the opportunity presents itself. I'm running three screens right now and it's interesting to watch the diversity of algae types and colors on them. One is LED lit, one is CFL lit and one is MH lit. Additionally, my quarantine tank has turned into a fourth ATS - probably due to the lack of herbivores and the strong light and constant water motion. I should take some pictures of all four.
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Learning about this could really explain how some people can get growth that it knocked out of the park right away, while others take months to get there, or don't ever get there no matter what they try. Quote:
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07/28/2016, 01:29 PM | #8713 |
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My QT can run both inline and offline (separate loop).
It's intentionally dual purpose. This way, it has tank water ready when it's not being used as a QT. When I need QT, I close some loops and open others and it's isolated. This makes moving sick coral or fish into it much easier (same chemistry).
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These were taken last week when I first began getting green algea. It's been a few years since I had a scrubber.. I'm trying to remember, and this is why I'm posting.. I think I need more flow in the areas that are lighter in color, because the water didn't flow as heavily. I'm wondering if this is the consensus? I think the slot in that area(it's doing the same on the front and back) needs to be widened just a smidge to allow more flow and the algea would grow like the rest of the screen.. What do you all think?
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07/31/2016, 07:53 PM | #8716 |
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Might just be too early to tell. The clumps might have formed there because you had slightly more ideal conditions, like a bit rougher, light level is optimal, flow is optimal, etc.
Usually the rest of the screen will follow suit given time. I would grab the clumps of algae with your fingers and pull 50-75% of the clod off then swipe the yellow goo away with your hand and rinse, then put it back in action. You obviously have the right conditions for growing GHA because you are actually growing it in some spots lol it just will take a bit of time for the rest of the screen to catch up. At least that's my observation. How long have you been running this screen?
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FW is fine, unless you are trying to save pods.
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Hi Floyd and Santa Monica
I am still having lots of green algae in my DT, ATS is also having nice growth. I thing I have done the roughening up well but if you suggest, I can redo. Either I am feeding too much or I feel the ATS is not big enough. |
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Re: LED lighting: what is the largest sized ATS screen a 6x12" heat sink could give area of coverage for?
I am hoping the answer will be independent of number of LED's, but just in case, I have 20 LED's on each unit (front and back units).
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If a screen has lots of growth, then it is rough enough. Removing nutrients just takes time.
If a 6 x 12 heatsink has LEDs all the way to the edge, and it placed 6" from a screen, then the screen could probably be 10 x 14.
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My LED's seem to be too intense, giving me a lot of yellow and bald spots on one side. I have tried lowering the photoperiod quite a bit but get the same result (14 hours on, 8 off).
I just ordered dimmable drivers. think i should go back to 18 hours and then go to 50% power and work my way up until the intensity is fine-tuned? or should I keep the photoperiod down as well? Any recommendations here would be helpful.
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08/01/2016, 03:35 PM | #8724 |
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That sounds like a plan. I've found that adding in dimming ability makes a huge difference, especially on start-up. I think that being able to adjust the intensity so that you can run longer hours works much better than staggering the photoperiod.
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Second cleaning and its looking great with a nice even layer on both sides. I went ahead and bumped up the light intensity from half to full tonight. See how it responds to that. They are on I think for 14 hours. After the next cleaning depending on how it looks I'll start increasing the hours the lights are on.
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