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Gbear · 09/10/2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by karsseboom

So is this skimmer pretty consistant? I just ordered one on Friday and after reading people are saying the neck is to large for the pump? It will on a 90g Sps tank and wondering if it will be to large.

You didn't mention which you ordered. Anyway you might be refering to the comment regarding the Alpha 300 possibly being able to run on one pump.
(Which I say it actually can, as mentioned a few posts up).
Hopefully you ordered the 170.
You may find it a bit too much skimmer for a 90 but I don't actually know as I have never had the pleasure.
I can say I have never once thought that the neck was too big on my Alpha and it is massive. As a poop reactor it is the best I have used but I'm still hoping for a comment or two form some others with expierence in reference to my earlier post. Come on guys don't make me bump my own post.

Jeremy B. · 09/11/2012, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karsseboom

So is this skimmer pretty consistant? I just ordered one on Friday and after reading people are saying the neck is to large for the pump? It will on a 90g Sps tank and wondering if it will be to large.

I'm assuming you're talking about the 170 as well? If so, I ran it on my 75g with about a 30g sump for quite a while and it worked wonderfully. Note that I didn't constantly tweak it either, I just set the water height and let the skimmer do it's job. If it didn't pull much for a day or two I wasn't too concerned, because it would always kick back in and work wonderfully.

Most newer skimmers on the market will perform as advertised given that you don't constantly tweak the wedge pipe every other day and end up chasing your tail with it, obviously given the skimmer is sized appropriately for your system.

karsseboom · 09/11/2012, 08:54 AM

Yeah I was talking about the 170. That's great news I was worried about the skimmer not skimming and being to large for my system.

kalaika33 · 09/13/2012, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy B.

I'm assuming you're talking about the 170 as well? If so, I ran it on my 75g with about a 30g sump for quite a while and it worked wonderfully. Note that I didn't constantly tweak it either, I just set the water height and let the skimmer do it's job. If it didn't pull much for a day or two I wasn't too concerned, because it would always kick back in and work wonderfully.

Most newer skimmers on the market will perform as advertised given that you don't constantly tweak the wedge pipe every other day and end up chasing your tail with it, obviously given the skimmer is sized appropriately for your system.

Hey Jeremy,
Do you know the correct water level in the skimmer? I know the correct water outside the skimmer is suppose to be 9-10inches. Also what about how many turns for the white nozzle on the front of the pump? This is for the Alpha 170. Is the water level in the skimmer suppose to be higher then the level outside the skimmer?
Thanks

kalaika33 · 09/13/2012, 01:29 PM

Ok going through the whole thread I think I figured out my initial settings. Please correct me or add info please.

Alpha 170
external water level: 8.5-10 inches of water
internal water level: 2-2.5 inches above the bubble plate (so bubbles are seen 2-2.5 inches above plate.)
white nozzle: 2-4 full turns (example 12:00 to 12:00 is one full turn) (start at completely closed nozzle)

In order to get dry or wet skim, I only adjust the white nozzle on the pump?

Wet skim: white nozzle further out.
Dry skim: white nozzle in towards the pump.

Has anyone seen the whole skimmer sorta rock back and forth while skimming? (slight rocking movement) Is this due to pulsing?

What else an I missing? Any one please at your .02
Thanks again to everyone on the thread.

Jeremy B. · 09/14/2012, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalaika33

Hey Jeremy,
Do you know the correct water level in the skimmer? I know the correct water outside the skimmer is suppose to be 9-10inches. Also what about how many turns for the white nozzle on the front of the pump? This is for the Alpha 170. Is the water level in the skimmer suppose to be higher then the level outside the skimmer?
Thanks

Put the water inside the skimmer inbetween the neck and the bottom of the collection cup. The venturi will be turned in all the way to the right (closed), then back it out 2 turns, but no further than 4 turns. HTH!

karsseboom · 09/15/2012, 01:34 AM

Okay jeramey I have some problems setting up the skimmer. First is the skimmer seems to be pulsing? There is water coming out from the red pipe where the clear hose enters? I have the skimmer setting in 8.75 inches of water and about 2 turns on the white nozzle. Is there something I'm missing here?

karsseboom · 09/15/2012, 08:08 AM

It seems to be skimming quiet well but the water splashing out from the wedge pipe kinda sucks.

karsseboom · 09/15/2012, 09:47 PM

Okay figured it out...it dosent seem to difficult to adjust.

clowndude · 09/16/2012, 08:35 AM

Has anyone had issues with their vertex alpha not wanting to stay in tune? I've been try to get mine dialed in for quite some time. Thought I finally had it last night and came in to see it lower than set yesterday. I have the nozzle on the pump about 2.5 turns out.

karsseboom · 09/17/2012, 02:48 PM

Still can't figure out why the water is flowing out of the wedge pipe.

Jeremy B. · 09/18/2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by clowndude

Has anyone had issues with their vertex alpha not wanting to stay in tune? I've been try to get mine dialed in for quite some time. Thought I finally had it last night and came in to see it lower than set yesterday. I have the nozzle on the pump about 2.5 turns out.

Does your sump level fluctuate at all, even a half inch or so?

Jeremy B. · 09/18/2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by karsseboom

Still can't figure out why the water is flowing out of the wedge pipe.

Can you post some photos of your setup as well as where the water is flowing out of?

karsseboom · 09/18/2012, 09:05 AM

It's coming out of the hole where the clear silicone hose enters into the red wedge pipe right above the T.

Jeremy B. · 09/20/2012, 07:20 AM

This is an older model then that doesn't have the connection on the outside of the tube. Just grab the hose and bend it a little bit and it will help to seal it up some. How is the skimmer running?

karsseboom · 09/20/2012, 09:11 AM

That skimmer pictured is not the one I have but looks pretty close and the hole where the silicone hose exits is the same on both models.

This is the one I have

karsseboom · 09/20/2012, 09:12 AM

The skimmer is running great, very happy with the performance.

karsseboom · 09/22/2012, 10:54 AM

Here is the problem I'm talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbIVcHF4X8U

OffDaHook · 10/06/2012, 11:36 AM

Jeremy, I would like to order an Alpha Skimmer. You guys got any in stock?

AcroporAddict · 10/06/2012, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karsseboom

It's coming out of the hole where the clear silicone hose enters into the red wedge pipe right above the T.

You have the output from the skimmer restricted by the wedge pipe so the water level inside the pipe is rising to where the air hose enters it. It is not a defect and does not detract from the performance of the skimmer. Nothing to be concerned about, really.

Jeremy B. · 10/08/2012, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OffDaHook

Jeremy, I would like to order an Alpha Skimmer. You guys got any in stock?

We do not unfortunately. The next shipment will most likely be mid to end of December. The build is just now getting ready to start on them, there were a few delays in manufacturing this time around.

clowndude · 10/10/2012, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy B.

Does your sump level fluctuate at all, even a half inch or so?

Hi Jeremy, the chamber which the skimmer and pump sit in stays at the same level. Only place that fluctuates is where the return pump sits back to the tank.

I've taken the skimmer apart and I'm still getting the same results. Can't quite figure out what is going on.

Jeremy B. · 10/10/2012, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clowndude

Hi Jeremy, the chamber which the skimmer and pump sit in stays at the same level. Only place that fluctuates is where the return pump sits back to the tank.

I've taken the skimmer apart and I'm still getting the same results. Can't quite figure out what is going on.

Post some photos of the skimmer running in your sump, or even better yet a short video would be helpful.

clowndude · 10/11/2012, 11:46 AM

Hi Jeremy,

Attached you will find the video.

http://youtu.be/2XHRanibmB0

Thanks,
Nick

Jeremy B. · 10/11/2012, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clowndude

Hi Jeremy,

Attached you will find the video.

http://youtu.be/2XHRanibmB0

Thanks,
Nick

It all looks good to me except that you're running the water level inside the skimmer a little too high. Open the wedge pipe approximately 1/16th to 1/8th turn and leave it there. You should be good to go then.

09/11/2012, 08:54 AM	#1403
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	Yeah I was talking about the 170. That's great news I was worried about the skimmer not skimming and being to large for my system. Last edited by karsseboom; 09/11/2012 at 09:23 AM.

09/13/2012, 01:29 PM	#1405
kalaika33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 14	Alpha 170 Initial Setup Specs Help Ok going through the whole thread I think I figured out my initial settings. Please correct me or add info please. Alpha 170 external water level: 8.5-10 inches of water internal water level: 2-2.5 inches above the bubble plate (so bubbles are seen 2-2.5 inches above plate.) white nozzle: 2-4 full turns (example 12:00 to 12:00 is one full turn) (start at completely closed nozzle) In order to get dry or wet skim, I only adjust the white nozzle on the pump? Wet skim: white nozzle further out. Dry skim: white nozzle in towards the pump. Has anyone seen the whole skimmer sorta rock back and forth while skimming? (slight rocking movement) Is this due to pulsing? What else an I missing? Any one please at your .02 Thanks again to everyone on the thread.

09/15/2012, 01:34 AM	#1407
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	Okay jeramey I have some problems setting up the skimmer. First is the skimmer seems to be pulsing? There is water coming out from the red pipe where the clear hose enters? I have the skimmer setting in 8.75 inches of water and about 2 turns on the white nozzle. Is there something I'm missing here?

09/15/2012, 08:08 AM	#1408
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	It seems to be skimming quiet well but the water splashing out from the wedge pipe kinda sucks.

09/15/2012, 09:47 PM	#1409
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	Okay figured it out...it dosent seem to difficult to adjust.

09/16/2012, 08:35 AM	#1410
clowndude Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 760	Has anyone had issues with their vertex alpha not wanting to stay in tune? I've been try to get mine dialed in for quite some time. Thought I finally had it last night and came in to see it lower than set yesterday. I have the nozzle on the pump about 2.5 turns out.

09/17/2012, 02:48 PM	#1411
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	Still can't figure out why the water is flowing out of the wedge pipe.

09/18/2012, 09:05 AM	#1414
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	It's coming out of the hole where the clear silicone hose enters into the red wedge pipe right above the T.

09/20/2012, 07:20 AM	#1415
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	This is an older model then that doesn't have the connection on the outside of the tube. Just grab the hose and bend it a little bit and it will help to seal it up some. How is the skimmer running?

09/20/2012, 09:11 AM	#1416
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	That skimmer pictured is not the one I have but looks pretty close and the hole where the silicone hose exits is the same on both models. This is the one I have

09/20/2012, 09:12 AM	#1417
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	The skimmer is running great, very happy with the performance.

09/22/2012, 10:54 AM	#1418
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	Here is the problem I'm talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbIVcHF4X8U

10/06/2012, 11:36 AM	#1419
OffDaHook Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Kissimmee, FL Posts: 515	Jeremy, I would like to order an Alpha Skimmer. You guys got any in stock?

10/11/2012, 11:46 AM	#1424
clowndude Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 760	Hi Jeremy, Attached you will find the video. http://youtu.be/2XHRanibmB0 Thanks, Nick