Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank)

[ReefPug]

Too funny! The fish always win in my book!

[scaryperson27]

Wow, this tank is beautiful

[motopsycho]

Wow, what a build Peter.

Simply Amazing.

[HaloStalker]

................................................wow.

.................................................Super Fantastic JOB.

..................................................i will go to sleep now and dream of being in ur shoes. night.


P.S> im still totally speechless i get this way everytime i read these fantastic threads and how people actually give birth to their and my dreams. I only Hope to get a little close to being in heaven as YOU Amazing Reefers.


Wish you all the best of Luck Peter!

[gacon711]

very impressive build.

[Dejavu]

Originally Posted by nineball

Peter

Very impressive build Peter!

[swissgaurd]

Originally Posted by nineball

Vic, here is a better shot (sort of) of the layers. There's groves in the concrete then a sort of rubber mat with ball bearings (not really ball bearings but it looks like it),then plywood, then another rubber mat and then the chestnut....... the design is such that the threat of any water....salty or otherwise NEVER sees the flooring.



and the red wire is foor the radiant heat which is only under the marble.........




Peter

Thanks peter i was gonna ask if you had a shot of the floor being put togethor

vic

[nineball]

Originally Posted by scaryperson27

Wow, this tank is beautiful

Thanks scaryperson, welcome to our community.

Peter

[nineball]

Originally Posted by motopsycho

Wow, what a build Peter.

Simply Amazing.

Thanks motopsycho and welcome.......looks like you are into a significant undertaking yourself........

Peter

[nineball]

Originally Posted by HaloStalker

................................................wow.

.................................................Super Fantastic JOB.

..................................................i will go to sleep now and dream of being in ur shoes. night.


P.S> im still totally speechless i get this way everytime i read these fantastic threads and how people actually give birth to their and my dreams. I only Hope to get a little close to being in heaven as YOU Amazing Reefers.

Thank you master chief! Hopefully we might give some of the dreamers some structure for their own imagineering.......

Peter
Wish you all the best of Luck Peter!

[nineball]

Originally Posted by gacon711

very impressive build.

Thanks Gacon.......lots more to come.

Peter

[nineball]

Originally Posted by Dejavu

Very impressive build Peter!

Thank you very much Brian. I was going to say welcome to the community but since you are the community .......Thanks for the support and opportunity to share!!!!

Peter

[nineball]

Originally Posted by swissgaurd

Thanks peter i was gonna ask if you had a shot of the floor being put togethor

vic

The glow at the end of the hall at the foot of the stairs is the entrance to the fish room or the portal to the alternate universe.........



and if you stop, close your eyes, and click you heels three times ............



But that's a different thread..........


back to the salt mines, I have work to do.........




Peter

[nineball]

I have a number of chillers but so far only one dedicated to the main display tank. Without starting a debate if possible and as I begin to plan around various single points of failure..........

How should I place the second chiller:

On the shelf as a ready spare?

In line with the spare passively standing on standby?

Run the two of them together at 50% all the time?

Run the two of them together at 100%?

Before anyone asks brand names etc. I am very interested in the rational for the positioning before we get into discussions about which brands are best. We'll get there but lets deal with the science first. I'm sort of hoping the answer is logical and endorsed as an obvious best practice by most in this community.................but that isn't gonna happen is it?

Peter

[JonnyD91]

In line with the spare passively standing on standby
Use the controler to kick in as a failsafe.
pending the 1 can cool the tank on a regular basis

O and by the way how did you get in my brain and build my dream house
Cause if I could vision one it would be yours

[davidchmaus]

Originally Posted by nineball

I have a number of chillers but so far only one dedicated to the main display tank. Without starting a debate if possible and as I begin to plan around various single points of failure..........

How should I place the second chiller:

On the shelf as a ready spare?

In line with the spare passively standing on standby?

Run the two of them together at 50% all the time?

Run the two of them together at 100%?

Before anyone asks brand names etc. I am very interested in the rational for the positioning before we get into discussions about which brands are best. We'll get there but lets deal with the science first. I'm sort of hoping the answer is logical and endorsed as an obvious best practice by most in this community.................but that isn't gonna happen is it?

Peter

My thinking is that you do it like a generator and a computer facility. The second unit would be in line and you would have it tied into your controller. Once a month you would take your main chiller offline to test your controllers ability to have the second unit take over and you would be actually testing the second unit.

On another note. What material are you using on the side of the stand and the rim?

[cloakerpoked]

While I know you don't want to get into the specific equipment or not, to give a true answer, we'd need to know what type of lighting you are planning on using, how much lighting, and the type of chiller to determine whether it is reasonable to expect that your chiller could overcome the heat being added by the lights. That having been said:

I could see a reason for doing it either way. As long as you have a plan for where you could put the second chiller in-line if needed, I don't think it strictly needs to be placed there now. That's just one more piece of equipment for you to maintain twice a year. Its not as though you'll have everything in place, and be popping corals in the next day, so you'll have plenty of time to "test run" everything and to see if heat control is too much of an issue or not. One thing you do want to think about, it seems to me that if you did run 2 chillers, it would be advantageous to run them on two separate returns to the two different ends of the tank. This would not only even out the distribution a bit, but would maximize the efficiency of the chillers. Running them in-line right next to each other would seem (to me) to limit the benefits that you get from the 2nd one.

Hadn't thought of the two previous posts to this, and they bring up excellent points about the fail-safe. That would be worth the maintaining to me, so I'd go that way.

That's my 2 pennies.

[huskerreef]

Originally Posted by nineball

Amphetamines Huskerreef, Its hell on fish but incredible on builders. They haven't figured it out yet but as long as they keep asking for more water this thing gets done at light speed(no pun intended).

Thanks by the way, you are too generous as this would NEVER have happened if Chingchai hadn't had the courage to do it in the first place. Something about his build was soooo qualitatively different that it reached out, grabbed me and wouldn't let go. I have never been able to find his peer on this forum or any other.

Peter

Thats what I was getting at, the way both of you tell the story and the sheer awesomeness of the subject matter makes for an entertaining thread to follow. I would agree Chingchai is an inspiration and his build thread is something never seen before with the detail, responses to every question and or comment, pics galore of the process and state of the art equipment, not to mention the finished product is a piece of artwork. Your thread my friend is following closely in his foot steps. Both of you will have an influence and inspire others to follow. Keep up the good work.

[dogstar74]

I'd probably run two in line, one set slightly higher temp than the other so it only kicks on when needed, and a third sitting on the shelf to swap out if one needs to go with repairs.

Aaron

[nineball]

Originally Posted by davidchmaus

My thinking is that you do it like a generator and a computer facility. The second unit would be in line and you would have it tied into your controller. Once a month you would take your main chiller offline to test your controllers ability to have the second unit take over and you would be actually testing the second unit.

On another note. What material are you using on the side of the stand and the rim?

I do understand data centers and that was my inclination...........I am also sensing a consensus which is in itself rare and reassuring. Thanks for taking the time to respond so fast.

The top cabinet is hard 'Canadian" maple with a stain to match the cabinetry below and a hard marine grade lacquer to finish. I do not want any toxicity fumes or otherwise to be an issue. The reason for the staining is to carry the visual around the room. That's the architect and my wife's dream castle. I just pay the rent!!!!!

The bottom is a drywall base which can be destroyed easily or quickly in an emergency and easily replaced.





Peter

[nineball]

Originally Posted by JonnyD91

In line with the spare passively standing on standby
Use the controler to kick in as a failsafe.
pending the 1 can cool the tank on a regular basis

O and by the way how did you get in my brain and build my dream house
Cause if I could vision one it would be yours

Thanks Jonny, this looks to be the best practice so that's whats goona happen as far as the chillers go.

As far as living in your head..............

Thanks for the compliment, in some manner I truthfully feel like I'm sitting on the sidelines with you all and enjoying this as much as you appear to be. This is great fun.

Peter

[amore169]

Wow there's no words to describe how beautiful this house and tank are going to be!!

[Claudio D]

Hi

amazing build


regarding your chiller question

I would use for your size a CHiller barrel with 2 independent titanium coils with individual compressors unit, but only one "water" connection, you could run your compressors units out of your house , avoiding noise and heat, and run them compressors independently.

I personally have my 660 gal sistem In Venezuela, A very hot country with a 2 ton barrel.

Your main concern is maintenance of the compressor units, and your controler will use them alternatively, if there is a malfunction, you will have plenty of time to fix one unit while the other keeps the load

tha is my opinion for such a beautifull set up

regards and thanks for inspiring us


you may check tis link http://www.swwilson.com/cooling_system, I bought mine from them and I think they could custom build a double coil unit

Claudio

Caracas Venezuela

[JonnyD91]

Peter is the tank on your main living area. I got thrown off by the kitchen in that room. I was under the assumption that its was in the basement, due to the staircase going up 2 levels.

[nineball]

Originally Posted by ;16786350

Thats what I was getting at, the way both of you tell the story and the sheer awesomeness of the subject matter makes for an entertaining thread to follow. I would agree Chingchai is an inspiration and his build thread is something never seen before with the detail, responses to every question and or comment, pics galore of the process and state of the art equipment, not to mention the finished product is a piece of artwork. Your thread my friend is following closely in his foot steps. Both of you will have an influence and inspire others to follow. Keep up the good work.

Thanks huskerreef, it makes the decision to follow Ching's discipline seem the right thing to do. I do wish I had the graphic skills he had access to as the visual planning in such detail was like having a 3D set of blueprints to follow. Anyone who followed his thread closely would have been in awe with the phenomenal consistency between the plan and the final product.

Also he broke from the pack in the support systems. Everyone that lives in this community can't help focusing on the brand and the machine. It's part of the culture. What Chingchai did to move the marble further was to make the setting and integration as 'pretty' and engaging as the display tank itself. In fact it took many of us a long time to catch on that his 'softie' tank was in fact part of his support system as an embedded display tank in his 'fish room'. and with all the incredible results he has achieved in a short time span he managed to do it and NOT look like the bottom of the Titanic. In many respects it looks better esthetically than the space station.

So my support environment is going to pursue his standard if its humanly possible.

Peter