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The other thing you have to watch for is that almost all fixture manufaturers count up the LEDs by rating then say that's the wattage. It's not.
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So for a 12 sq in screen, shoot on the high end: 12/4 = 3x 3W (high intensity) per side, x3 = 9x 1W (per side). I wouldn't sat that fixture is way more than you need, it's probably about right actually
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12/25/2015, 10:23 PM | #7378 |
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So it looks as if Steve's LED's has gone out of business, which is the only place I know of for good ATS LED's... or at least they are just taking money from customers and never getting them the product... either way it looks like they are moving toward the prior soon.
anyway, where else can I purchase good LED's for ATS's? even if I have to build it myself. my screen is 8x8, and want to go with two units that are each 16 Deep Red's + 4 Hyper Violets (3W bulbs). wherever is recommended, if someone can help me figure out exactly the parts I need to go along with it would be very helpful. I get lost with all the options of drivers, heat sinks, etc, especially with the quantities I need to support the bulbs/wattage.
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12/25/2015, 10:47 PM | #7380 |
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http://www.rapidled.com/cree-xp-e-photo-red-660nm-led/
Plenty of places to get 660s, I haven't heard anything super negative about Cree Photo Red, but I have always used Philips I do know that Steve's is really understaffed and orders have a long lead time right now. I don't think they are going under anytime soon.
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this is a newbie dumb question but ATS the same thing as an algae scrubber? IT sounds like it... and if so what does 'ATS' stand for? algae tank scrubber?
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12/27/2015, 12:15 PM | #7386 |
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Technically ATS = Algal Turf Scrubber but, meh
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I think I remember reading this somewhere but I can't find it. Is the algae production and nutrient consumption of an UAS slower therefore the filtering capacity is less or different than a waterfall ATS?
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If you have the space, I would without a doubt go with a waterfall scrubber. |
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Everyone has different systems, what works well for one person isn't necessarily going to work well for another. I think the significantly lower flow through upflow scrubbers is a definite downside, air is pretty terrible at moving water. I also believe that there is a lot less turbulence on the algae (or growth screen) in upflow scrubbers, which impacts on nutrient exchange, and therefore growth. It's also important to take into consideration what you expect from the scrubber. Do you want it to be the sole form of filtration in the tank? Or just supplemental to what you already have? Waterfall scrubbers are hands down the clear winner for me. In saying that, there's no denying that upflow scrubbers have some clear advantages over waterfall scrubbers. Regardless - reliable, solid performance is IMO upflow scrubbers achilles heel. |
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FWIW I have a drop up flow ATS in one tank that grows like mad and a waterfall in another that's meh. I think it's mostly related to lighting though.
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faster growth. And they won't mat down, killing the lower layers, like a waterfall will. Practically for most people, the decision is space, cost, and if you want to dis-assemble things to harvest. Quote:
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bottom layers which then turn to hey (yellow). Upflows don't do this because they are always swishing around in water/bubbles. Quote:
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coral food too. Unfortunatly they don't remove nitrate, nitrite, phosphate, CO2, or ammonia. Seems like a new-year re-post of the important Marine Biology Basics videos would be good here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfMaBeLwiO4 - Ocean Productivity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d96F0ak4uY - Photosynthesis part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTBlq3gUv5Y - Food Chains vs. Food Webs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwZDIU6sM_4& - Nutrients and Primary Production http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnlCx7mVcZ4 - Chlorophyll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtZ75KW2t-U - Zooplankton and Primary Production http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quH4x640Jgs - Bacteria http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIjMQATQks - Food Webs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc_fGWjmNeI - Microbial Food Web http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQaE0e0iD3s - Trophic Pyramids And lastly, the worlds of 3D printing and aquariums have now come together completely; 3D printed screens (see pics)
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They do seem to work well, which makes sense. They can also be made into pretty much any shape, which is a big plus. |
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This was a hypothesis I had a few days ago and I think you may have confirmed my idea. Does this imply that skimming the effluent of an algae scrubber, similar to biopellets, would be beneficial?
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You would just be removing pods and microbial life, and maybe some detached growth. I want all that stuff to circle back around to feed the tank.
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I've always found that well designed and established tanks are teeming with life. Depending on how much detached growth there is this could be overall beneficial.
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i built my first LED setup for my ATS today. The only heat sink they had was a 6x12, whereas my ATS is 8x8... I didnt think would be an issue but after setup the bulbs really cover a 4" x 9" space, and I'm not sure the 4" space is going to work out... any thoughts on this being adequate coverage for a 8x8 screen, or should I consider getting a new heat sink? see image below
Also, is Hyper Violet a blue color? i was surprised that it was light blue, expecting more of a purple...
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You could always remove the outer LEDs so it is not so wide, then move it away so the remaining light will spread more.
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Turn the lights 90 degrees So the silly connectors don't take up so much room.
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