Not a typical doctor's waiting room... 450 gallon reef - Page 4

Tunjee · 01/19/2007, 12:49 PM

I thought silicone would only adhere glass to glass. How is it that they can glue glass to plastic and I cant?

jnarowe · 01/19/2007, 01:35 PM

you're going to put down some styro sheet under the sump anyway, right?

MaGNuS042 · 01/19/2007, 04:39 PM

Im pretty sure they are using a special silicone, it's not 100 percent like we use for glass to glass.

Beenalongtime79 · 01/19/2007, 04:55 PM

Oh, it hurts so goooood.

Those will probably be the happiest children in the world.

Then again, when I was a little kid, I always wanted to see sharks! Probably not a huge chance of that happening in this tank. Hehe

Good luck with the rest of the planning. It is definitely going to be a topnotch tank.

Cheers,
John H.

Dudester · 01/19/2007, 05:25 PM

rufio173 - Thanks for the nice comments, and good luck with medical school (it's totally worth it!).

Quote:

Originally posted by jnarowe
you're going to put down some styro sheet under the sump anyway, right?

John/Brian, care to tackle this one?

Beenalongtime79 · 01/19/2007, 05:36 PM

Thanks Dudester! I think I will be happy with what I'll be doing in the future.

May I ask, but are you also in the medical field?

Also, how do you like the reeflux bulbs?

Dudester · 01/19/2007, 06:10 PM

I haven't used the 400W ReefLux bulbs personally, but I'm currently using a 250W 12K and it looks great.

sending you pm

KingfishJohn · 01/19/2007, 08:35 PM

Possibly on the styrofoam but probably not. The sump is only 24" wide so should fit no problem.

John

jnarowe · 01/19/2007, 09:36 PM

well, the styro sheet will help to reduce vibration noises so I figured you would be doing that and the bolts were really a moot point. at 24" it's no big deal anyway. whenever I help others build systems, I always try to have them put in a water-proof liner and styro under the sump and return pump.

fishypets · 01/21/2007, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by E-A-G-L-E-S
Way to go guys!

Hey Matt, I told you everything is bigger and better in TEXAS!! LOL

gkarshens · 01/24/2007, 07:18 PM

I just helped move this thing in today. Let me say "WOW!" It is a terrific tank and you could land a 747 on that stand. I am sure John will post pics soon.

KingfishJohn · 01/24/2007, 08:45 PM

Brian's phone has the pictures as I didn't bring a camera this time (knew that I'd have to be lifting and not shooting pics haha).

The tank is an incredible thing. Very very well built and beautiful. The stand the builders built is 6" steel and literally could hold anything I could throw at it.

Thanks to my "crew" , I could not have lifted that tank alone!

Dudester · 01/27/2007, 06:52 PM

Just got back from vacation, and honestly I'm jealous that I wasn't there to help get the tank into the office and onto the stand. John, you have to share the info that you gave me about the tank move - talk about close calls!

Gabriel, no pics? I don't think I've ever seen you without a camera in your posession

. Guess you had your hands full, though. Thanks so much for helping out!

Yaryman · 01/27/2007, 09:06 PM

I know this has been covered already, but I'm just amazed at how few overflow slots there are.

Just my 2Â¢, but I think you will come to regret that part of your design.

jnarowe · 01/28/2007, 12:26 AM

there's more than one way to run a reef tank. I am a fan of large overflows but many tanks thrive on just a corner overflow. Different philosophies are what is great about this hobby!

KingfishJohn · 01/28/2007, 02:16 AM

I know that everyone doubts the overflow. Let's wait until it's running and maybe you'll be singing a different tune or I'll be dremeling out some new slots.

I love this hobby!

John

Tunjee · 01/29/2007, 04:29 PM

I wonder what kind of special silicone they use to adhere glass to plastic?

KingfishJohn · 01/30/2007, 12:26 AM

Love Aqua Teen btw...

I'll offer this advice on the silicone.

We weren't sure if this tank was going to fit in the overflow. Only one was working at the time, and it wasn't a service elevator, just one that would handle a pediatric gurney.

Two options if the tank didn't fit at this point... cut off the external overflow and reattach it (or so we thought) or get a crane. I called AGE to talk about option 1 and we would have had to have one of their guys come to Austin and fix it personally.

Luckily the tank fit in the gator and is in its final resting place (on top of a stand that could handle the weight of a semi).

Dudester · 01/30/2007, 09:58 AM

I'll take the liberty of editing thedude's post. He meant to say "We weren't sure if this tank was going to fit in the elevator."

Since Brian's phone appears to be "off-line" I'll post the pics I took last night of the tank on the stand. I wish my 6'5" partner was with me, it would have been nice to get a photo of him laying in the tank ... with room to spare. Love the PVC bottom.

Here's a view looking down the barrell, with the controversial overflow in the foreground. Check out the acrylic bracing.

jnarowe · 01/30/2007, 03:19 PM

really looks good. may be tough to keep that overflow comb clean but I am sure you guys will figure it out. how thick is the pVC bottom?

Beenalongtime79 · 01/30/2007, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jnarowe
really looks good. may be tough to keep that overflow comb clean but I am sure you guys will figure it out. how thick is the pVC bottom?

I think it'd be rather easy to construct something out of gutter guard to place over those combs and just take it out once a week for a quick rinse and then back over the combs.

Gosh guys, I really would have wished my pediatric surgeon was that cool and savvy to put a monster reef tank in the waiting room!

Keep the progress notes and pictures coming!

Peace,
John

alien9168 · 01/30/2007, 05:27 PM

This looks awsome!

makoJ · 01/31/2007, 12:28 AM

WOW thats a HUGE tank, nice work man!

longhornreefer · 02/05/2007, 08:53 PM

Hello All,

I can't believe i just found this thread and it is already 4 pages long, and its just a glass box.

Allow myself to introduce.....(pause).....myself. My name is brian with kingfish aquariums in austin, and i have been slaving over this tank for the past few days. i have documented the installation and have some great eye candy.

Let me comment on the "poor design' of the overflow. We had no choice but to make it 12" wide because of the wavebox and extention, the 2 C.L. holes, and the constraints of the filtration closet. I definately see a dremel in my near future, i think i will start by cuting out every other tooth and using black eggcrate from behind to keep small fishes out.

I had already built the sump b/4 I noticed the bolts anchoring the stand down (even though these bolts are so unnecessary). So I planned and jointed some 2x4's and attached them together with waterproof wood glue and biscuit joints. I leveled the 2x4 sump riser with 1/8" and 1/4" pieces of rubber mat.

longhornreefer · 02/05/2007, 08:57 PM

01/19/2007, 12:49 PM	#76
Tunjee Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Winchester VA Posts: 404	I thought silicone would only adhere glass to glass. How is it that they can glue glass to plastic and I cant? __________________ "You gotta be smarter than the equipment you operate." Current Tank Info: 20gallon reef external glass overflow, diy light 175w 20k XM MH, 65w Actinic PC, 65w 10k PC, LED moonlight, OceansMotion, Velocity T-2 650gph, Euro-reef ES-52,RO/DI auto top off, pinpoint PH meter, diy acrylic sump, titanium pro II heater....

01/19/2007, 01:35 PM	#77
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	you're going to put down some styro sheet under the sump anyway, right? __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

01/19/2007, 04:39 PM	#78
MaGNuS042 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 127	Im pretty sure they are using a special silicone, it's not 100 percent like we use for glass to glass. __________________ In life, you don't get what you want, you don't get what you deserve, and you don't get what's fair. You get what you negotiate. Current Tank Info: 110 gallon mixed reef(sps dominant) Ecosystem sump, Kent Nautilus ex, DiY Ca Reactor, 2x 250w XM 10,000k in La3 minis w/ 2x 110w actinic vho, 2x Tunze 6100 w/ 7095 multicontroller

01/19/2007, 06:10 PM	#82
Dudester Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,218	I haven't used the 400W ReefLux bulbs personally, but I'm currently using a 250W 12K and it looks great. sending you pm __________________ The Dude abides Current Tank Info: building a new home tank l 450g office tank with Deltec everything

01/19/2007, 09:36 PM	#84
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	well, the styro sheet will help to reduce vibration noises so I figured you would be doing that and the bolts were really a moot point. at 24" it's no big deal anyway. whenever I help others build systems, I always try to have them put in a water-proof liner and styro under the sump and return pump. __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

01/19/2007, 04:55 PM	#79
Beenalongtime79 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,437	Oh, it hurts so goooood. Those will probably be the happiest children in the world. Then again, when I was a little kid, I always wanted to see sharks! Probably not a huge chance of that happening in this tank. Hehe Good luck with the rest of the planning. It is definitely going to be a topnotch tank. Cheers, John H.

01/19/2007, 05:36 PM	#81
Beenalongtime79 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,437	Thanks Dudester! I think I will be happy with what I'll be doing in the future. May I ask, but are you also in the medical field? Also, how do you like the reeflux bulbs?

01/19/2007, 08:35 PM	#83
KingfishJohn Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 474	Possibly on the styrofoam but probably not. The sump is only 24" wide so should fit no problem. John

01/24/2007, 07:18 PM	#86
gkarshens Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 2,382	I just helped move this thing in today. Let me say "WOW!" It is a terrific tank and you could land a 747 on that stand. I am sure John will post pics soon. __________________ Gabriel It's about time!

01/24/2007, 08:45 PM	#87
KingfishJohn Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 474	Brian's phone has the pictures as I didn't bring a camera this time (knew that I'd have to be lifting and not shooting pics haha). The tank is an incredible thing. Very very well built and beautiful. The stand the builders built is 6" steel and literally could hold anything I could throw at it. Thanks to my "crew" , I could not have lifted that tank alone!

01/27/2007, 06:52 PM	#88
Dudester Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,218	Just got back from vacation, and honestly I'm jealous that I wasn't there to help get the tank into the office and onto the stand. John, you have to share the info that you gave me about the tank move - talk about close calls! Gabriel, no pics? I don't think I've ever seen you without a camera in your posession . Guess you had your hands full, though. Thanks so much for helping out! __________________ The Dude abides Current Tank Info: building a new home tank l 450g office tank with Deltec everything

01/27/2007, 09:06 PM	#89
Yaryman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Northern California Posts: 140	I know this has been covered already, but I'm just amazed at how few overflow slots there are. Just my 2Â¢, but I think you will come to regret that part of your design.

01/28/2007, 12:26 AM	#90
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	there's more than one way to run a reef tank. I am a fan of large overflows but many tanks thrive on just a corner overflow. Different philosophies are what is great about this hobby! __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

01/28/2007, 02:16 AM	#91
KingfishJohn Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 474	I know that everyone doubts the overflow. Let's wait until it's running and maybe you'll be singing a different tune or I'll be dremeling out some new slots. I love this hobby! John

01/29/2007, 04:29 PM	#92
Tunjee Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Winchester VA Posts: 404	I wonder what kind of special silicone they use to adhere glass to plastic? __________________ "You gotta be smarter than the equipment you operate." Current Tank Info: 20gallon reef external glass overflow, diy light 175w 20k XM MH, 65w Actinic PC, 65w 10k PC, LED moonlight, OceansMotion, Velocity T-2 650gph, Euro-reef ES-52,RO/DI auto top off, pinpoint PH meter, diy acrylic sump, titanium pro II heater....

01/30/2007, 12:26 AM	#93
KingfishJohn Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 474	Love Aqua Teen btw... I'll offer this advice on the silicone. We weren't sure if this tank was going to fit in the overflow. Only one was working at the time, and it wasn't a service elevator, just one that would handle a pediatric gurney. Two options if the tank didn't fit at this point... cut off the external overflow and reattach it (or so we thought) or get a crane. I called AGE to talk about option 1 and we would have had to have one of their guys come to Austin and fix it personally. Luckily the tank fit in the gator and is in its final resting place (on top of a stand that could handle the weight of a semi).

01/30/2007, 09:58 AM	#94
Dudester Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,218	I'll take the liberty of editing thedude's post. He meant to say "We weren't sure if this tank was going to fit in the elevator." Since Brian's phone appears to be "off-line" I'll post the pics I took last night of the tank on the stand. I wish my 6'5" partner was with me, it would have been nice to get a photo of him laying in the tank ... with room to spare. Love the PVC bottom. Here's a view looking down the barrell, with the controversial overflow in the foreground. Check out the acrylic bracing. __________________ The Dude abides Current Tank Info: building a new home tank l 450g office tank with Deltec everything

01/30/2007, 03:19 PM	#95
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	really looks good. may be tough to keep that overflow comb clean but I am sure you guys will figure it out. how thick is the pVC bottom? __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

01/30/2007, 05:27 PM	#97
alien9168 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,664	This looks awsome! __________________ -Alien Current Tank Info: I used to have a 30g custom acrylic cube sps, lps, zoos, mushrooms, leathers, 3" gigas+ anthias. 30Xg Sea Horse Tank...starting fresh...

01/31/2007, 12:28 AM	#98
makoJ Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 1,472 Blog Entries: 3	WOW thats a HUGE tank, nice work man! __________________ TOTM March 2008 It takes a strong man to cry, but it takes an even stronger man to laugh at that man. --300Gal SPS tank long gone but new tank on the horizon Current Tank Info: Custom 110g, Lights: Radion's Flow: 2 Vortechs

02/05/2007, 08:53 PM	#99
longhornreefer Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 47	Hello All, I can't believe i just found this thread and it is already 4 pages long, and its just a glass box. Allow myself to introduce.....(pause).....myself. My name is brian with kingfish aquariums in austin, and i have been slaving over this tank for the past few days. i have documented the installation and have some great eye candy. Let me comment on the "poor design' of the overflow. We had no choice but to make it 12" wide because of the wavebox and extention, the 2 C.L. holes, and the constraints of the filtration closet. I definately see a dremel in my near future, i think i will start by cuting out every other tooth and using black eggcrate from behind to keep small fishes out. I had already built the sump b/4 I noticed the bolts anchoring the stand down (even though these bolts are so unnecessary). So I planned and jointed some 2x4's and attached them together with waterproof wood glue and biscuit joints. I leveled the 2x4 sump riser with 1/8" and 1/4" pieces of rubber mat.

02/05/2007, 08:57 PM	#100
longhornreefer Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 47