foxface advice!!!

gaby_scan · 09/15/2018, 08:56 AM

hello all so i have this foxface that he is every day in the same top part corner of the tank, he barely swims around, he is on a 75g and he is small maybe 2 and a half inches.my question is i have a yellowtaill pigmy angel that i think everytime the foxface comes to the rock work the pigmy is right there, like he doesn't bite him but he follows him like saying this is my yard and the foxface retreats again to his corner, pigmy does this on the whole tank but funny he doesn't do it to the clownfish, is there anything i can do to fix this? the foxface eats algae that i put on a clip so at least i know he is not starving or dying. do i have to remove the pigmy?(that's gonna be hard lol)

Vinny Kreyling · 09/15/2018, 09:13 AM

You could try a mirror on the outside of the glass to distract him into thinking there is another angel present.

devimik · 09/15/2018, 09:20 AM

As long as the Foxface is eating, that's a good sign. Soon, the Foxface will get larger than the Angel and I suspect that problem will go away. My Foxface basically hangs out behind my rockwork and in caves - only comes out when I feed - even then, he is very skittish when I am in front of the tank.

jmm · 09/15/2018, 09:20 AM

Wait it out. The foxface will grow so fast he'll soon be too big for the angel to intimidate. And probably he'll be bored in a 75 gallon tank.

jmm · 09/15/2018, 09:21 AM

My answer was the same as his.

gaby_scan · 09/15/2018, 05:56 PM

thanks for the responses, yeah i just feel that he just stays there the wholeeeeeeee day and he is already bigger than the pigmy, might try the mirror idea for the angel, maybe that will make him stop bullying the fox...also i know the fox get's bigger, hopefully by that time i'll have a much bigger tank.

gaby_scan · 09/19/2018, 06:13 AM

Well after a couple of days of seeing my foxface just hanging out on the side of the tank i noticed he was on the same spot for wayyyy too long so when i closely inspected, foxy passed away...i really think it was the pigmy's doing, after this i'm probably gonna get bigger fish and a little more aggressive so this doesn't happen again.

mattgumaer · 09/19/2018, 10:21 AM

An established pygmy angel in a 75 gallon tank can be a real problem. Once established and convinced the whole tank is his territory, it may be difficult to add fish, even dissimilar fish. If I were going to put a dwarf/pygmy angel in a 75 gallon tank, it would likely be the last, or close to last fish in the tank. Try to have a stocking plan and generally stock from least to most aggressive.

Matt

09/15/2018, 08:56 AM	#1
gaby_scan Registered Member Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 150	foxface advice!!! hello all so i have this foxface that he is every day in the same top part corner of the tank, he barely swims around, he is on a 75g and he is small maybe 2 and a half inches.my question is i have a yellowtaill pigmy angel that i think everytime the foxface comes to the rock work the pigmy is right there, like he doesn't bite him but he follows him like saying this is my yard and the foxface retreats again to his corner, pigmy does this on the whole tank but funny he doesn't do it to the clownfish, is there anything i can do to fix this? the foxface eats algae that i put on a clip so at least i know he is not starving or dying. do i have to remove the pigmy?(that's gonna be hard lol)

09/15/2018, 09:13 AM	#2
Vinny Kreyling Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miller Place, NY Posts: 7,206	You could try a mirror on the outside of the glass to distract him into thinking there is another angel present. __________________ 250 gallon mixed reef, 2 Reefbreeder's Photon V 2, Deepwater BLDC 12, DAS EX-3 Skimmer, MTC mini cal, 2-3/4" Sea Swirls, Aquacontroller & 6 Tunze pumps.

09/15/2018, 09:20 AM	#3
devimik Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: KC, KS Posts: 637	As long as the Foxface is eating, that's a good sign. Soon, the Foxface will get larger than the Angel and I suspect that problem will go away. My Foxface basically hangs out behind my rockwork and in caves - only comes out when I feed - even then, he is very skittish when I am in front of the tank. __________________ Mike D Coral Beauty, Green Filefish, One Spot Foxface, Springeri Dottyback, 2 Ocellaris Clowns, Yellow Watchman Goby, Flame Hawkfish, Spotted Mandarin Current Tank Info: 90g Softie Reef, 150# live rock, 30g sump w/refugium, Tunze Osmolator 3155 ATO, Octopus NWB 150 Skimmer, Mag 950 return, Maxspect 120w Razor 10K LED light X2, BRS Phosphate Reactor; Apex Lite

09/15/2018, 09:20 AM	#4
jmm Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 569	Wait it out. The foxface will grow so fast he'll soon be too big for the angel to intimidate. And probably he'll be bored in a 75 gallon tank.

09/15/2018, 09:21 AM	#5
jmm Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 569	My answer was the same as his.

09/15/2018, 05:56 PM	#6
gaby_scan Registered Member Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 150	thanks for the responses, yeah i just feel that he just stays there the wholeeeeeeee day and he is already bigger than the pigmy, might try the mirror idea for the angel, maybe that will make him stop bullying the fox...also i know the fox get's bigger, hopefully by that time i'll have a much bigger tank.

09/19/2018, 06:13 AM	#7
gaby_scan Registered Member Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 150	Well after a couple of days of seeing my foxface just hanging out on the side of the tank i noticed he was on the same spot for wayyyy too long so when i closely inspected, foxy passed away...i really think it was the pigmy's doing, after this i'm probably gonna get bigger fish and a little more aggressive so this doesn't happen again.

09/19/2018, 10:21 AM	#8
mattgumaer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 561	An established pygmy angel in a 75 gallon tank can be a real problem. Once established and convinced the whole tank is his territory, it may be difficult to add fish, even dissimilar fish. If I were going to put a dwarf/pygmy angel in a 75 gallon tank, it would likely be the last, or close to last fish in the tank. Try to have a stocking plan and generally stock from least to most aggressive. Matt