Frag tank Q

lfduty · 05/01/2007, 08:26 AM

I was thinking last night about haw to get the most out of my zoa frag when I went out to have a smoke and was looking in to the basement form the deck out back its s strat run from my sump to the wendo where I can safely put a 75G/Tall and it can get some sunlight and a (??) came to me (WHY CANT I PUT A FRAG TANK THERE) and let the sun feed them the light and put a top on the tank so water can't get into the tank but I can. The temp wont be eney problem my basement stays at 65to70 all the time and with good water running to the tank I would think the timp will stay the same as the basement and if not I can put them back in the house like I will do in the wenter time's
I want to know what you all THINK too?

or

reefkoi · 05/01/2007, 09:27 AM

an outside tank? or are you saying in front of a window in the basement?

lfduty · 05/01/2007, 10:00 AM

NO outside up next to the house under the ev ont the basement window can i will post a pic of what in thinking so you all can see it

reefkoi · 05/01/2007, 10:14 AM

problem with that is temp control, you say you think the tank will stay the same temp as the basement? I doubt that.
We are in Colorado and we get such big temp swings at night, you'd need a pretty good amount of heaters in there I'd think.
I think a better idea is a small greenhouse, even very small but a tighter airspace when cold and vetable when warm. I think this will be harder thn you think, corals need more stability IMO

lfduty · 05/01/2007, 10:20 AM

what if i did it in front of a window

lfduty · 05/01/2007, 10:52 AM

This's what im thinking

And what is this

The Haj · 05/01/2007, 11:28 AM

Evaporation,That is a problem we are running into wright now. Until I can build some ato reseviors it is a pain to try to keep your salinity in check. It might be a little easier doing a 75 though. Rain could also pose a little problem. Just a thouhgt

Mustang394 · 05/01/2007, 11:32 AM

I have to agree with Chris on this one I think temp control would be almost impossible in that small of a tank. If it is empty now you could always try it with out any corals in there and see how hard it would be to control the temp.

lfduty · 05/01/2007, 11:35 AM

That is why i will put a top on the tank like in the pic's but not that same one and i have a auto topoff in my 200g sump/fuge and as for the temp i think it will be ok and not get to hot or cold with a 200g's of water +2 90g tanks in the house. Thats a looooooooot of water

lfduty · 05/01/2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Mustang394
I have to agree with Chris on this one I think temp control would be almost impossible in that small of a tank. If it is empty now you could always try it with out any corals in there and see how hard it would be to control the temp.

Well im going to run it a week and see what the temp's doing. I can see what Mustang and Chris are saying. that's why im asking you all are helping me put this to gether. the tank ALL to gether will be 200gsump and 2 90g tanks in the house loot of water

Mustang394 · 05/01/2007, 01:20 PM

Are you going to hook this in to your existing system? Would be a disaster if something were to happen to that outside tank and you whole system drains into the back yard.

reefkoi · 05/01/2007, 02:36 PM

ahhh, I see you are running the sump inside and the tank outside and that is why you made a reference to the temp in the basement. I was trying to figure that out.
I'd personally just put a frag tank in front of a window if you can, and have it in the house.
If we lived in Hawaii this may work but I think it will be a waste doing it here.
If you do end up going ahead with it and have some nice frags in there give me your address so I can stop by one night

oh yeah that coral ID you were asking about is a leather, commonly called a lettuce coral, they dont get much better looking, they stay short and ruffly looking and pretty much just a plain brown.

lfduty · 05/01/2007, 03:44 PM

thanks for the ID Im going to give it a go and see haw it go's in the winter i will put some thing over it I just want to see haw it go's and if all go's good i want to do a greenhouse next summer.

murfman · 05/01/2007, 03:49 PM

Lin, there is a post here on RC about a guy in Cali that built an insulated enclosure outside the house and used a hot tub cover to keep everything insulated. He had all his plumbing, skimmer, controllers and stuff outside and just the tank and stand in the house.

lfduty · 05/01/2007, 03:56 PM

I just want to have the tank outside for frag zoa's nad some SPS/LPS and soft coral. the house is plumbed in for the tanks i have naw and it would be a hell of a job to replumb it naw.

Smokey_08 · 05/01/2007, 04:23 PM

if you need help make sure you let me know and well ill pm you

Darknes · 05/01/2007, 07:17 PM

I think it's going to be more work than it's worth to just keep a few frags.

Butchdawg14 · 05/01/2007, 07:46 PM

alright think about the snow

it could possibly cover the tank!!!!

bigsittingrock · 05/01/2007, 08:27 PM

Turn your window well in to a tank. Then you could see it from inside your basement.

Huhhhhh · 05/01/2007, 08:46 PM

You know we have many Raccoons in this state and our city. I'd hate to see what a couple of those would do to it. I agree that if anything did happen to it you'd loose everything in the house that is connected to it also

lfduty · 05/01/2007, 09:02 PM

I have been thinking off all that as well and if you all look back you will see that it WILL have a top. And i see what you all are saying.

Huhhhhh · 05/01/2007, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lfduty
I have been thinking off all that as well and if you all look back you will see that it WILL have a top. And i see what you all are saying.

Have you ever seen what a 50 lb raccoon can move, and remove.

Unless you stack a 100 lbs of brick or more on the top, the top alone will be child's play.

I'd hate to see you loose a set up due to Colorado's intensity.

lfduty · 05/01/2007, 09:21 PM

I know and your right

Smokey_08 · 05/02/2007, 08:35 PM

hey i know nothing about frgs but i would sure like to end up with some lin maybe i could work for something you know

reefkoi · 05/02/2007, 08:38 PM

"will work for frags" I like that, you are a true reefer smokey

05/01/2007, 08:26 AM	#1
lfduty Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: McLeod Montana Posts: 1,406	Frag tank Q I was thinking last night about haw to get the most out of my zoa frag when I went out to have a smoke and was looking in to the basement form the deck out back its s strat run from my sump to the wendo where I can safely put a 75G/Tall and it can get some sunlight and a (??) came to me (WHY CANT I PUT A FRAG TANK THERE) and let the sun feed them the light and put a top on the tank so water can't get into the tank but I can. The temp wont be eney problem my basement stays at 65to70 all the time and with good water running to the tank I would think the timp will stay the same as the basement and if not I can put them back in the house like I will do in the wenter time's I want to know what you all THINK too? or __________________ Thanks: Lfduty Research, each individual species you intend to own. This will ensure a lengthy life of your livestock. Current Tank Info: I have 150g mixreef 1-90 fishonley with a Oceanic trickle filter(M150) with a ehime6000 pump 40g breder zoa tank with 30g sump/fuge with mag7 pump 1-75g pipefish tank with 30g sump/fuge and 1-80g SH 1-40hex softy all run on a 250gal sump/50gfuge

05/01/2007, 09:27 AM	#2
reefkoi Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,071	an outside tank? or are you saying in front of a window in the basement? __________________ 1Kw bulb club Current Tank Info: A 600gal. on Zeovit & a 240gal.

05/01/2007, 10:00 AM	#3
lfduty Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: McLeod Montana Posts: 1,406	NO outside up next to the house under the ev ont the basement window can i will post a pic of what in thinking so you all can see it __________________ Thanks: Lfduty Research, each individual species you intend to own. This will ensure a lengthy life of your livestock. Current Tank Info: I have 150g mixreef 1-90 fishonley with a Oceanic trickle filter(M150) with a ehime6000 pump 40g breder zoa tank with 30g sump/fuge with mag7 pump 1-75g pipefish tank with 30g sump/fuge and 1-80g SH 1-40hex softy all run on a 250gal sump/50gfuge

05/01/2007, 10:14 AM	#4
reefkoi Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,071	problem with that is temp control, you say you think the tank will stay the same temp as the basement? I doubt that. We are in Colorado and we get such big temp swings at night, you'd need a pretty good amount of heaters in there I'd think. I think a better idea is a small greenhouse, even very small but a tighter airspace when cold and vetable when warm. I think this will be harder thn you think, corals need more stability IMO __________________ 1Kw bulb club Current Tank Info: A 600gal. on Zeovit & a 240gal.

05/01/2007, 10:20 AM	#5
lfduty Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: McLeod Montana Posts: 1,406	what if i did it in front of a window __________________ Thanks: Lfduty Research, each individual species you intend to own. This will ensure a lengthy life of your livestock. Current Tank Info: I have 150g mixreef 1-90 fishonley with a Oceanic trickle filter(M150) with a ehime6000 pump 40g breder zoa tank with 30g sump/fuge with mag7 pump 1-75g pipefish tank with 30g sump/fuge and 1-80g SH 1-40hex softy all run on a 250gal sump/50gfuge

05/01/2007, 10:52 AM	#6
lfduty Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: McLeod Montana Posts: 1,406	Frag tank This's what im thinking And what is this __________________ Thanks: Lfduty Research, each individual species you intend to own. This will ensure a lengthy life of your livestock. Current Tank Info: I have 150g mixreef 1-90 fishonley with a Oceanic trickle filter(M150) with a ehime6000 pump 40g breder zoa tank with 30g sump/fuge with mag7 pump 1-75g pipefish tank with 30g sump/fuge and 1-80g SH 1-40hex softy all run on a 250gal sump/50gfuge

05/01/2007, 11:28 AM	#7
The Haj Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 365	Evaporation,That is a problem we are running into wright now. Until I can build some ato reseviors it is a pain to try to keep your salinity in check. It might be a little easier doing a 75 though. Rain could also pose a little problem. Just a thouhgt

05/01/2007, 11:32 AM	#8
Mustang394 Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 207	I have to agree with Chris on this one I think temp control would be almost impossible in that small of a tank. If it is empty now you could always try it with out any corals in there and see how hard it would be to control the temp. __________________ "Life is drawing without an Eraser" Current Tank Info: Oceanic 22+ Seahorse, 90 gal LPS & Softies, 120 gal LPS & SPS

05/01/2007, 11:35 AM	#9
lfduty Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: McLeod Montana Posts: 1,406	That is why i will put a top on the tank like in the pic's but not that same one and i have a auto topoff in my 200g sump/fuge and as for the temp i think it will be ok and not get to hot or cold with a 200g's of water +2 90g tanks in the house. Thats a looooooooot of water __________________ Thanks: Lfduty Research, each individual species you intend to own. This will ensure a lengthy life of your livestock. Current Tank Info: I have 150g mixreef 1-90 fishonley with a Oceanic trickle filter(M150) with a ehime6000 pump 40g breder zoa tank with 30g sump/fuge with mag7 pump 1-75g pipefish tank with 30g sump/fuge and 1-80g SH 1-40hex softy all run on a 250gal sump/50gfuge

05/01/2007, 01:20 PM	#11
Mustang394 Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 207	Are you going to hook this in to your existing system? Would be a disaster if something were to happen to that outside tank and you whole system drains into the back yard. __________________ "Life is drawing without an Eraser" Current Tank Info: Oceanic 22+ Seahorse, 90 gal LPS & Softies, 120 gal LPS & SPS

05/01/2007, 02:36 PM	#12
reefkoi Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,071	ahhh, I see you are running the sump inside and the tank outside and that is why you made a reference to the temp in the basement. I was trying to figure that out. I'd personally just put a frag tank in front of a window if you can, and have it in the house. If we lived in Hawaii this may work but I think it will be a waste doing it here. If you do end up going ahead with it and have some nice frags in there give me your address so I can stop by one night oh yeah that coral ID you were asking about is a leather, commonly called a lettuce coral, they dont get much better looking, they stay short and ruffly looking and pretty much just a plain brown. __________________ 1Kw bulb club Current Tank Info: A 600gal. on Zeovit & a 240gal.

05/01/2007, 03:44 PM	#13
lfduty Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: McLeod Montana Posts: 1,406	thanks for the ID Im going to give it a go and see haw it go's in the winter i will put some thing over it I just want to see haw it go's and if all go's good i want to do a greenhouse next summer. __________________ Thanks: Lfduty Research, each individual species you intend to own. This will ensure a lengthy life of your livestock. Current Tank Info: I have 150g mixreef 1-90 fishonley with a Oceanic trickle filter(M150) with a ehime6000 pump 40g breder zoa tank with 30g sump/fuge with mag7 pump 1-75g pipefish tank with 30g sump/fuge and 1-80g SH 1-40hex softy all run on a 250gal sump/50gfuge

05/01/2007, 03:49 PM	#14
murfman Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 4,677	Lin, there is a post here on RC about a guy in Cali that built an insulated enclosure outside the house and used a hot tub cover to keep everything insulated. He had all his plumbing, skimmer, controllers and stuff outside and just the tank and stand in the house.

05/01/2007, 03:56 PM	#15
lfduty Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: McLeod Montana Posts: 1,406	I just want to have the tank outside for frag zoa's nad some SPS/LPS and soft coral. the house is plumbed in for the tanks i have naw and it would be a hell of a job to replumb it naw. __________________ Thanks: Lfduty Research, each individual species you intend to own. This will ensure a lengthy life of your livestock. Current Tank Info: I have 150g mixreef 1-90 fishonley with a Oceanic trickle filter(M150) with a ehime6000 pump 40g breder zoa tank with 30g sump/fuge with mag7 pump 1-75g pipefish tank with 30g sump/fuge and 1-80g SH 1-40hex softy all run on a 250gal sump/50gfuge

05/01/2007, 04:23 PM	#16
Smokey_08 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 68	if you need help make sure you let me know and well ill pm you __________________ Nick Kinney Current Tank Info: Not Yet Up

05/01/2007, 07:17 PM	#17
Darknes Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pueblo, Co Posts: 148	I think it's going to be more work than it's worth to just keep a few frags.

05/01/2007, 07:46 PM	#18
Butchdawg14 Moved On Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Colorado Springs/Arvada Posts: 868	alright think about the snow it could possibly cover the tank!!!!

05/01/2007, 08:27 PM	#19
bigsittingrock Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Elizabeth CO Posts: 372	Turn your window well in to a tank. Then you could see it from inside your basement.

05/01/2007, 08:46 PM	#20
Huhhhhh Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Srings, CO Posts: 834	You know we have many Raccoons in this state and our city. I'd hate to see what a couple of those would do to it. I agree that if anything did happen to it you'd loose everything in the house that is connected to it also __________________ Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. And remember you can always lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think. Current Tank Info: 125 Gallon Reef w Fish

05/01/2007, 09:02 PM	#21
lfduty Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: McLeod Montana Posts: 1,406	I have been thinking off all that as well and if you all look back you will see that it WILL have a top. And i see what you all are saying. __________________ Thanks: Lfduty Research, each individual species you intend to own. This will ensure a lengthy life of your livestock. Current Tank Info: I have 150g mixreef 1-90 fishonley with a Oceanic trickle filter(M150) with a ehime6000 pump 40g breder zoa tank with 30g sump/fuge with mag7 pump 1-75g pipefish tank with 30g sump/fuge and 1-80g SH 1-40hex softy all run on a 250gal sump/50gfuge

05/01/2007, 09:21 PM	#23
lfduty Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: McLeod Montana Posts: 1,406	I know and your right __________________ Thanks: Lfduty Research, each individual species you intend to own. This will ensure a lengthy life of your livestock. Current Tank Info: I have 150g mixreef 1-90 fishonley with a Oceanic trickle filter(M150) with a ehime6000 pump 40g breder zoa tank with 30g sump/fuge with mag7 pump 1-75g pipefish tank with 30g sump/fuge and 1-80g SH 1-40hex softy all run on a 250gal sump/50gfuge

05/02/2007, 08:35 PM	#24
Smokey_08 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 68	hey i know nothing about frgs but i would sure like to end up with some lin maybe i could work for something you know __________________ Nick Kinney Current Tank Info: Not Yet Up

05/02/2007, 08:38 PM	#25
reefkoi Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,071	"will work for frags" I like that, you are a true reefer smokey __________________ 1Kw bulb club Current Tank Info: A 600gal. on Zeovit & a 240gal.