"Best of" FO's (since we don't get TOTM's)

[DamnPepShrimp]

Originally posted by HOBrien
DPS: Also on the thoughts of each individual fish all depends on the "EYE OF THE BEHOLDER" with that said I prefer the Orangeface over either of the others and that is why I opted for it.

I agree and I am glad you got the fish you wanted!

[HOBrien]

That doesnt mean that I wont be getting a BlueLine Angel as well. My tank will be a Taiwan Biotope but going further as making it a predomanantly Chaetedontoplus Angel Tank.

[jnc914]

How about some more "Fish Only Pics"? What happened to this thread, it started out strong and has dissolved into a discussion between 2-3 people about what fish they are buying. I thought I stumbled back into the "Angel/Butterfly Tank" thread. Let's get back on topic. Here are some of my pics, unfortunately I don't have a wide lens to get a full tank shot.

[DamnPepShrimp]

Heath, if an orangefaced and a blueline look similar, I don't see them getting along.

Jnc, gorgeous tank! I'd love to see your rockwork/FTS, sucks you can't get a good shot. You have some nice rare fish there! I'm more of a holocanthus/pomocanthus angelfish keeper, but your angels are amazing! I'll be able to post up some new pics next week, I'll be getting in my new angels

I agree, we need to get this thread back on track!

[jnc914]

Originally posted by DamnPepShrimp
Heath, if an orangefaced and a blueline look similar, I don't see them getting along.

Jnc, gorgeous tank! I'd love to see your rockwork/FTS, sucks you can't get a good shot. You have some nice rare fish there! I'm more of a holocanthus/pomocanthus angelfish keeper, but your angels are amazing! I'll be able to post up some new pics next week, I'll be getting in my new angels

I agree, we need to get this thread back on track!

I look forward to your pics. I am going to try and get a FTS tomorrow, it may turn out crappy though. My tank had been in lower salinity for several months due to an ich outbreak at the end of last year. I am bringing it back up to 1.022 and raising the calcium to get some purple on those rocks. I may also add some sand, still deciding. I am not that good at taking pictures, but I am still learning.

[WuHT]

You have some nice rare fish there! I'm more of a holocanthus/pomocanthus angelfish keeper, but your angels are amazing! [/B]

poma/holocanthus are the REAL angels hehe

[HOBrien]

DPS: I am not going to go on and on about Angel Compatability. So I will just say that you see two of the exact same fish in JNC's tank with no problems. I will be taking precautions when I add the Blueline after the Orangeface as in a tank divider till they get aquanted.

JNC: That is simply Amazing to say the least. I cant wait to see what the FTS look like. What are the demensions of the 300 that they are in?

[michael_cb_125]

Very Nice Jason. I love your fish collection. The Blue Lines are stunning.

~Michael

[DamnPepShrimp]

Jason, I was considering hypoing my whole tank, maybe when I am done stocking it. Right now, with just a few small fish, wrasse, couple tangs and an eel, I haven't seen a single spot of ich. I am treating everyone with prazipro, and will dose that everytime I add new fish. Looking forward to your FTS, don't worry about it being crappy, I have to take mine with my cell phone!

Heath, the reason his get along is because they have "paired" up. Your talking about two different species that look extremely similar. It may work out, it may not, I have my doubts. You never know until you try, just have a backup plan if it doesn't.

WuHT,haha, I love the pomo/holo! But do love all angels, just don't have the money for the more passive Chaetedontoplus angels, for me its a Passer, Queen, and French. Maybe when I upgrade I will get a huge cxi emperor. Gotta love the aggressive big boys!

[HOBrien]

DPS: Yes I do have a backup plan/tank (old 120)

[jnc914]

Originally posted by HOBrien
DPS: I am not going to go on and on about Angel Compatability. So I will just say that you see two of the exact same fish in JNC's tank with no problems. I will be taking precautions when I add the Blueline after the Orangeface as in a tank divider till they get aquanted.

JNC: That is simply Amazing to say the least. I cant wait to see what the FTS look like. What are the demensions of the 300 that they are in?

I think that when you are adding fish of the same family, size is the biggest factor. Of course adding them at the same time is ideal and is the best chance for compatability. However, if you add an Orange face first, obviously you will want to add a Blueline that is smaller so that the Orange face doesn't feel the need to defend its territory. I had a situation between the larger of the two Bluelines and my Meridithi. The were the same shape and size, which meant war as the Meridithi was established in the tank and definitely staked out its territory. IT got bad and I removed the Meridithi to another tank. It has been 3 months and I plan on returning the Meridithi back to the display along with a small Flagfin and possibly a Regal so the aggression will be dispersed between the fish. As long as you have the 120 as a backup, I don't think you will have a problem; you can always pull out the larger/aggressive fish until the other one settles in.


My tank dimensions are 96"L x 25 (?)" H x 24 W with a dual center overflow. I have an additional 100 gallons flowing through a Rubbermaid Stock tank sump. I keep the flow fairly high as I run 4 Tunze 6100 and have a Sequence Dart open up full blast. I also run Ozone, which I swear by and would never run another one of my tanks without it. The water is spotless and the health of the fish has not been better. Not to mention my skimmer is pulling out a ton of nasty, dark, rotten egg smelling organics from the water.

[DamnPepShrimp]

Jason, those dimensions are a 240g (8x2x2). What skimmer are you running?

[HOBrien]

JNC: That was well put. Thank you. I will be doing the eggcrate divider for sure when I do introduce the BlueLine after the Orangeface. I have a awesome looking specimen of a Humphead/Horned Butterfly and a beautiful Bellus Angel that will also be going into my tank eventually that are in my 40gallon breeder QT. I have 5 fish that will be here tomorrow that will be going into the 200 depending on actual size of the specimens vs what was stated.

[DamnPepShrimp]

Wow, 5 fish at once!? What are they/sizes? Hope everything works out ok, you are moving fast with this tank!

[HOBrien]

The biggest fish is a 5.5" Zosters Butterfly followed by the two angels at 3-3.5" then a 2" Rusty Angel, and then a 1" Flame Hawk. To be honest there is only 2 new fish in this tank that wasnt in my 120. Which is a 2" Singapore Angel and a 1.5" Assorted Tang. Both are eating well and fat. I have the humphead Butterfly and the Bellus Angel in a seperate tank until they are eating like champs. Which they are both eating and keeping weight well.

I do 75gallon water changes every week and run a wet skim along with a load of Activated Carbon(in sump).

I also still have a 10g, 20g, 30g, and 75 or 120g that are empty. I have either the 120 or 75 sold just not sure which they are taking.

[jnc914]

Originally posted by DamnPepShrimp
Jason, those dimensions are a 240g (8x2x2). What skimmer are you running?

When I got home from work I measured the height and it is 1/8" under 30". I think that's bizarre, I wonder why it isn't a standard 30".

I am currently running a H&S Skimmer that is rated for 500-700 gallons. These skimmers are built very solid.

[Marc]

Originally posted by jnc914


How about some more "Fish Only Pics"? What happened to this thread, it started out strong and has dissolved into a discussion between 2-3 people about what fish they are buying. I thought I stumbled back into the "Angel/Butterfly Tank" thread. Let's get back on topic. Here are some of my pics, unfortunately I don't have a wide lens to get a full tank shot.

Those fish are pretty sweet!!! Those are some prize specimens. I noticed you run a bare bottom tank with no sand bed. How is this working out for you? Are your nitrates down significantly since you run a bare bottom or are they higher? What type of filtration are you running?

Marc

[jnc914]

Originally posted by Marc
Those fish are pretty sweet!!! Those are some prize specimens. I noticed you run a bare bottom tank with no sand bed. How is this working out for you? Are your nitrates down significantly since you run a bare bottom or are they higher? What type of filtration are you running?

Marc

I love running a barebottom tank primarily due to the fact that nitrates are extremely low, almost undetectable. I have a ton of flow in the tank and that tends to sweep detritus that may settle on the tank bottom or rocks right into the overflow. As for filtration, water leaving the tank goes into a filter sock in my 100 gallon Rubbermaid Stock tank. I keep a large H&S Skimmer that is rated for double my water volume. I use a UV & I run Ozone through my skimmer. I change the filter sock daily and do bi-weekly water changes. My water parameters have been stable for almost two years now, I am hesistant to tweek anything at this point. I do miss the look of sand in the tank though.

[HOBrien]

So in your experience Nitrates stay lower in a BB tank than in a tank with a sand bed?

[Marc]

I am very sure bare bottom tanks work out well because ditritus is not caked up in the sand. Also huge water flow is very important as well as it keeps the liverock clean for coraline algae to thrive. I tried it to and its nice. I did notice my diatom algae dissipated quickly after taking out my sand a month ago.

Marc

[HOBrien]

Oh Ok, Well I have several fish and CUC that clean my substrate.

[michael_cb_125]

I am strongly considering taking out my sand bed. I ran my elos BB and loved it. I was planning on keeping a few fish that required sand, but now I have changed plans.

Right now I am running 4 Koralia 4s. I just took down my Elos, and will be running a MPW40 on the 150 as well. THat would put me at 6600 GPH. Should this be enough to keep the detritus swept up?

Also, I figured that I could remove the sand slowly over the course of a week or two. Just syphon out the sand during water changes. Would this be the best method?

~Michael

[HOBrien]

I would have gone BB as well if I didnt have wrasse that liked to barry themselves.

[michael_cb_125]

Jason- How do you like your goldflake? I have been looking at these angels for the last 2 years. I was considering one for my 240 gallon reeftank, but never pulled the trigger.

Is he very aggressive?

Thanks

~Michael

[jnc914]

Originally posted by michael_cb_125
Jason- How do you like your goldflake? I have been looking at these angels for the last 2 years. I was considering one for my 240 gallon reeftank, but never pulled the trigger.

Is he very aggressive?

Thanks

~Michael

I love my Goldflake. He is one of the most active fish in the tank. He tends to be an aggressive eater but is not hostile towards any of the other fish. GF's make my list of "fish I must have in any tank I keep".
I highly recommend them. Sorry to hear about the Scribbled.