Taking the Plunge

[maroun.c]

Thanks for the info Marc.

[melev]

Originally posted by Schwe
Well, I was worried about the size a bit. This is not a sale at a store, it is a local guy. He also has small pink bta's that are a couple of inches in size, but they keep splitting in his tank as soon as they reach 4". I was interested in the larger one because I worry that my clowns would beat the crap out of it.

Realistically, I could still back out of the deal as I do not have the nem yet.

In looking at the type of clownfish you have (page 28), I doubt they would cause too much trouble for a smaller anemone.

If you had Gold Strip Maroons, that would be different. They are very aggressive and anemones can't handle them, in my experience. That's when you need a huge anemone.

[Schwe]

My clowns are about 3" long... they aren't too big for an anemone that has been maxing out at 4" before splitting?

Also, these "pink" BTA's aren't true RBTA's.

[melev]

Those are some larger clownfish. Guess you need a 5" bta now.

[Schwe]

Originally posted by melev
Those are some larger clownfish. Guess you need a 5" bta now.

HA! So, let's be blunt. Is this RBTA a bad idea? I was very excited about the opportunity to get an RBTA from an established tank that has been in good health for a while, as opposed to one from an LFS with questionable history. However, if this isn't a smart move to make, I am more than willing to bow out of the deal and do what is best for my tank. I was thinking that a large and healthy RBTA would be a more hardy choice and also I would know how big it would be and thus not have to anticipate its size and plan my corals accordingly. Am I making any sense?

I've had a VERY stressful morning and would not be upset with not being able to get this RBTA-- It is a drop in the bucket compared to the other stressors that have currently presented themselves in my life.

So, I would like to get it since it is a good deal, but if it is a mistake to do so, please let me know so that I do not sacrifice a relationship with a fellow reefer and may respectfully bow out of the deal so that someone else can have it.

The little pink BTA's do not sound like something I want. I don't want gremlin BTA babies wreaking havoc in my tank because they keep splitting every time they hit 3-4"

[raen]

Schwegirl, my LFS called whloe here and said mine is in!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am SO excited!!! I wnt you to get one right for your tank too so we can learn together!

[raen]

Originally posted by Schwe
HA! So, let's be blunt. Is this RBTA a bad idea? I was very excited about the opportunity to get an RBTA from an established tank that has been in good health for a while, as opposed to one from an LFS with questionable history. However, if this isn't a smart move to make, I am more than willing to bow out of the deal and do what is best for my tank. I was thinking that a large and healthy RBTA would be a more hardy choice and also I would know how big it would be and thus not have to anticipate its size and plan my corals accordingly. Am I making any sense?

I've had a VERY stressful morning and would not be upset with not being able to get this RBTA-- It is a drop in the bucket compared to the other stressors that have currently presented themselves in my life.

So, I would like to get it since it is a good deal, but if it is a mistake to do so, please let me know so that I do not sacrifice a relationship with a fellow reefer and may respectfully bow out of the deal so that someone else can have it.

The little pink BTA's do not sound like something I want. I don't want gremlin BTA babies wreaking havoc in my tank because they keep splitting every time they hit 3-4"

You OK?

[Schwe]

Originally posted by raen
You OK?

Not really. I just got back from orientation for my university and found out that basically, I can not get my degree there. I've been crying and freaking out and screaming at my boyfriend. The issue is with my job being a day job, and apparently they do not offer any BS degree credits in the afternoons/evenings. So, I have to quit my job if I want to get my degree. I just started working here and my boss is a saint (a crazy saint, but a good man nonetheless). I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Ultimately, I need to take care of myself and get my damn degree over with. This means either screwing my boss over and leaving, or negotiating some kind of working arrangements which I do not foresee being at all realistic nor possible.

I just got this job less than a month ago. I do not want to go back to waiting tables, but this is my only option to make any decent amout of money again working irregular hours. I am over the waiting table thing and do not want to go back there!

Or, I could move out and go back home. I do not see this as a comfortable arrangement for any parties involved, except maybe my mother who would love to have me back home. ( ) This option would mean a possible end in a 2+year relationship which, while miserable at times, is a significant part of my life. We can fight like cats and dogs and I can hate him sometimes, but I do love him all of the time. I'm not the easiest person to live with and I have to give him credit for putting up with me and my time-consuming hobbies. We've been through a LOT together.

So... sorry everyone for airing my dirty laundry and dumping my personal baggage on this thread. I'm in a really tough position right now. Classes start August 25.

[HumanIMDB]

Sorry to hear about that...I really hope everything works out for you.

It sounds like you have the right kind of boss to make it work if there is a way, so you already have one positive note. It also sounds like your boyfriend is very supportive; another plus. And, you don't seem like the kind of person to give up without a fight, so with all those things in your favour, you should be able to get everything you want.

Good luck and keep us clubies posted.

Sorry I don't have much to offer for the RBTA discussion...but I'm listening intently as we will likely be in the same position in a few months. We are looking at a Green Carpet Anemone though.

[Schwe]

Originally posted by HumanIMDB
Sorry to hear about that...I really hope everything works out for you.

It sounds like you have the right kind of boss to make it work if there is a way, so you already have one positive note. It also sounds like your boyfriend is very supportive; another plus. And, you don't seem like the kind of person to give up without a fight, so with all those things in your favour, you should be able to get everything you want.

Good luck and keep us clubies posted.

Sorry I don't have much to offer for the RBTA discussion...but I'm listening intently as we will likely be in the same position in a few months. We are looking at a Green Carpet Anemone though.

Thank you for your support.

About the carpet-- gorgeous anemone, but don't they get VERY large?

[capn_hylinur]

Leysa, take care of number one--look in the mirror, you have to live with that person for the rest of your life

[HumanIMDB]

Originally posted by Schwe
Thank you for your support.

About the carpet-- gorgeous anemone, but don't they get VERY large?

You're most welcome.

I believe they might...one of the reasons I'm reading your discussion so intently is that we're thinking that the RBTA might be a better choice. The other thing that worries us about the GCA is that they are one of the anemones that can cause serious problems for people who touch them.

[capn_hylinur]

Regarding your anemone--the bottom line is that's its your tank and your decision to make.
If you make a decision that's doesn't work out for you--oh well you learned something in this hobby
and I doubt anyone on here is going to judge you and say--we told you so--its just not going to happen

[melev]

Wait, what the current topic?

If you want to get that anemome, enjoy. Remember that they get even larger.

[Schwe]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
Leysa, take care of number one--look in the mirror, you have to live with that person for the rest of your life

You're right. I inherited the unfortunate trait of worrying about others more than I worry about myself from my grandmother. I know I need to take care of #1, but I feel guilty and selfish when I try to. I started this job and promised a loyalty and reliability to this doctor's office. Also, there is the potential to reap long-lasting benefits as my boss is also the residency director for the big medical school here. I'm a coward when it comes to standing up for myself and hurting others.

[capn_hylinur]

Originally posted by Schwe
You're right. I inherited the unfortunate trait of worrying about others more than I worry about myself from my grandmother. I know I need to take care of #1, but I feel guilty and selfish when I try to. I started this job and promised a loyalty and reliability to this doctor's office. Also, there is the potential to reap long-lasting benefits as my boss is also the residency director for the big medical school here. I'm a coward when it comes to standing up for myself and hurting others.

then talk to him and explain your situation---if he is the kind of boss you say he is then he will understand--and perhaps even be able to help you----if he's not then no sense feeling guilty anymore

[Tswifty]

Originally posted by HumanIMDB
You're most welcome.

I believe they might...one of the reasons I'm reading your discussion so intently is that we're thinking that the RBTA might be a better choice. The other thing that worries us about the GCA is that they are one of the anemones that can cause serious problems for people who touch them.

If you are looking into carpet anemones... Team RC Member ToddTRex (I think that is his name) is a great resource, and has housed quite a few. He has a beautiful blue one right now.

I shot him a PM about his large blue carpet anemone a while back, and he was more than happy to provide information and answer all my questions.

[Tswifty]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
I doubt anyone on here is going to judge you and say--we told you so--its just not going to happen

+1

[Schwe]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
Regarding your anemone--the bottom line is that's its your tank and your decision to make.
If you make a decision that's doesn't work out for you--oh well you learned something in this hobby
and I doubt anyone on here is going to judge you and say--we told you so--its just not going to happen

Yeah, I just need some validation and support from you guys! I really rely heavily on your input in many of my decisions since I am a neophyte in this hobby.

My clam jumped from its previously very happy spot yesterday. She was latched on there really well, too, since I accidentally bumped the rock the other day and saw that she had a good hold. I moved the rock to a different location and put the clam back in the nook I had her. That leaves the left side of my tank in front of the overflow prime real estate for the anemone. I would just have to rearrange my zoas to make sure they don't get stung.

I think I'm going to put a 12" ruler in the tank and see just how big this thing is going to be. I feel like I am underestimating its size, especially with the way Marc is talking.

It could be the show piece in my tank, but I don't want to make a mistake. Like I said earlier, I need someone to hold my hand and tell me what to do.

[melev]

Don't let me rain on your parade. Here's a picture of a 65g tank.



Just realize they can get big, and then split hopefully. At that point, they may wander to find a better spot, and stuff in its path often suffer.

Here's a picture of mine in my 29g in 2003.

[HumanIMDB]

Originally posted by Tswifty8
If you are looking into carpet anemones... Team RC Member ToddTRex (I think that is his name) is a great resource, and has housed quite a few. He has a beautiful blue one right now.

I shot him a PM about his large blue carpet anemone a while back, and he was more than happy to provide information and answer all my questions.

Cool...thanks!

[Schwe]

Originally posted by melev
Don't let me rain on your parade. Here's a picture of a 65g tank.



Just realize they can get big, and then split hopefully. At that point, they may wander to find a better spot, and stuff in its path often suffer.

Here's a picture of mine in my 29g in 2003.

No raining here!! the visuals really help drive the point home. I'm not looking for appeasement, I'm looking for someone to stand up and say, "no" and why. If those reasons apply to me and are good arguments, then I am more than happy to listen to the advice.

Thanks Marc.

[capn_hylinur]

Originally posted by Schwe
No raining here!! the visuals really help drive the point home. I'm not looking for appeasement, I'm looking for someone to stand up and say, "no" and why. If those reasons apply to me and are good arguments, then I am more than happy to listen to the advice.

Thanks Marc.

I kind of like that look--then I like my huge toadstool and everybody else wants me to frag it

[capn_hylinur]

Originally posted by melev
Don't let me rain on your parade. Here's a picture of a 65g tank.



Just realize they can get big, and then split hopefully. At that point, they may wander to find a better spot, and stuff in its path often suffer.

Here's a picture of mine in my 29g in 2003.

Sure Marc--you post beautiful tanks like that and everybody is going to be motivated not to do like you---I think not

[maroun.c]

Well on the anemones issue (I have a weak side for them) I would say it's totally up to and how you want you tank appearance to be.. When I'm finished with my 150 build I might go back and make a small cube just for few anemones and clowns... don't know if you saw my 80G before (Capn sorry here goes once more)

Those anemones stayed where they are for years. Just look at how the whole low and mid level of the tank is nothing but anemones. with this tank being 3 times the length of your tank you will have the same concentration of anemones with one 12 inch anemone in your tank. If you love this (I did) go for it.
one last thing don't convince yourself that this anemone will split in few weeks to justify buying it as mine did not split in 8 years.
In the same way those 3 inch RBTAs will not necessarily split at 4 inch in your tank (and then again might split earlier) still that could be another source of income for the tank... As I said earlier it's a deciding factor in the final image of your tank.
One last question, do you have powerheads in the tank?