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Old 07/30/2009, 03:32 PM   #101
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What's the difference between magnetic and electronic ballast? which one is better and why? Thanks


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Old 07/30/2009, 03:32 PM   #102
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Old 08/03/2009, 07:35 AM   #103
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Electronic is basically new technology. It is more exact, and it doesn't cause the "humming." Overall, both will work, but if you have a choice between the two I would go with electronic. It seems like everything is starting to switch over to that anyways.


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Old 08/11/2009, 06:31 PM   #104
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anyone use comercial halides on their tank? i have a couple from worj that im thinking about. they are 200W each and use a M136 bulb, which im not sure i can find in 10k ish


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Old 08/11/2009, 08:43 PM   #105
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I have been contemplating the idea for months because I have the same option of bulbs. I would like to know also.


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Old 08/17/2009, 08:42 PM   #106
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I've been looking everywhere for a fixture that will hold 2 - 250 MH. I thought I found it finally (Sun Pod 48") but then I seen it runs on a magnetic ballast...!?

Anyone know of a good double 250 MH fixture??...I'm trying to avoid getting a fixture w/supplement (PC or T5) lighting for simplicity and price.


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Old 08/19/2009, 01:10 PM   #107
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i have a 40g breed with a 250w MH 20k my tanks 36x18 and the light is about 2ft off the water is that good for zoas


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Old 08/20/2009, 09:05 PM   #108
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How long to leave the light on?

I have a 40g breeder thats 36x18x18, and a 250w 20000k MH how long should I leave the light on a day? I have a couple zoas and a frogspawn.


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Old 08/24/2009, 01:47 PM   #109
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Anyone using 250W DE odyssea bulbs? I just got a 2x250watt current outer orbit metal halide fixture & I'm trying to figure out what brand & K rating bulbs to run....anyone have pics that they would care to share of 14K or 20K bulbs? I'm thinking 20K Ushio's but wondering if that will be too blue?


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Old 08/24/2009, 09:35 PM   #110
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I purchased a t-5 6 lamp tek light a few months ago. It was working awesome until my tank cracked. I had to replace it asap and the only place in town was pretty limited. Anyways I ended up with a much larger tank. The tank is 48L 24W and 30H. I was thinking 2 250 20k MHs or 2 400s. I am trying to find a decent unit but am having a hard time deciding. I need either 1 unit that has legs or 1-2 units that can hang from the ceiling. Do any of you have any recommendations?


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Old 08/25/2009, 12:10 PM   #111
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Quote:
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Anyone using 250W DE odyssea bulbs? I just got a 2x250watt current outer orbit metal halide fixture & I'm trying to figure out what brand & K rating bulbs to run....anyone have pics that they would care to share of 14K or 20K bulbs? I'm thinking 20K Ushio's but wondering if that will be too blue?
I don't have the fixture yet, but I am seriously thinking about getting an Odyssea 72" 2x250 MH, and PC's fixture. I have heard that I will need to change the bulbs and ballast, but when I get it I will up load and post pics here. Are you running an Odyssea light?


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Old 08/25/2009, 12:42 PM   #112
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Light for 125

I am setting up a 125 long 72"x18"x20"

Will this light be Ok?


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I was also looking at getting 3 of the 150 HQI/ T-5 fixtures, like this one


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Old 08/25/2009, 01:11 PM   #113
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No, I'm running a current outer orbit, I was just wondering about the odyssea MH bulbs....


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Old 08/25/2009, 07:11 PM   #114
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A friend of mine needs lights for his 110 Extra Tall 48x18x31.
Would 2x24" 150watt MHs with T-5s be enough, or would he need 250watt MH's.
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Old 08/26/2009, 09:33 AM   #115
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31" deep? Even 250's may not be enough....I'd go with 2x400W


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Old 08/26/2009, 12:48 PM   #116
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I believe the the 110 extra tall is 31" deep.


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Old 08/27/2009, 02:51 PM   #117
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I just ordered a Giesemann Infiniti 2x150 + 4x54 T5 for a tank with max water depth of 18" at the sand bed.

The tank will be mixed, but SPS dominated - I've been a long time T5 user and I'm just not sure what bulbs to use in which combination.

I want to balance color and growth, but probably lean towards color. I've been considering either Phoenix 14k or Radiums, but I'm not sure what T5's to pair up with them.

In my current T5 fixture I use a Fiji Purple and have used procolor to enhance reds and pinks, so I'm not sure if I can do the same and get good results.


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Old 09/01/2009, 08:51 AM   #118
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Hello All

I live in a remote part of the the world so I am greatly limited by distance and logistics. I am going with a 3m x 700mm deep x 1 metre wide tank. I can't afford to ship a full canopy so I must build my own. BTW shipping a Giesemann canopy after customs is nearly 2K US. I am going to use 5 Dynavision pulse start ballastst and I am thinking of a combination of 3 Ushio Aqualites @ 14K along with two Geisemann 12.5k's.. Lamps are light and they are reletively painless to ship, I plan on ordering double. The question I have is regarding reflectors. These are single ended lamps. No plan for supplemental actinic lighting for now, these are also correctly designated for pulse start ballasts. I don't like the idea of overdriving a 400w lamp as there have been some catastrophic failures, furthermore it seems unwise (unless I am missing something) to apply a pulse start electronic ballast to a probe start lamp? Question? What reflectors would you recommend and "Importantly" will they ship overseas?

Any input would be appreciated.

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Old 09/01/2009, 01:07 PM   #119
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22" hieght on large lumen bright to high?

22" hieght on large lumen bright to high?
Has anyone done any testing to see when high becomes too high on the large lumen bright reflectors?

I have a mini on my 92 corner right now at about 16" (bulb to water-400w) and have had good success here.

I am constructing my lighting for my new tank and the bulbs are at about 22" from water surface in 3 large reflectors. Wondering if this is getting too high???

65" x 36" tank, i have 3 larges up right now (400w-not running yet) still in construction phase...


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Old 09/04/2009, 09:47 PM   #120
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How do you diagnose if a Electronic blueline ballast is bad? Im new to MH lighting. Just want to know if there is such thing as a bulb tnat a Electronic ballast wont light. When i unplug the ballast it flicks the bulb for a split second. I know the bulb is good. It works with a magnetic ballast. Can i sue a multi meter to test ballast?


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Old 09/12/2009, 11:32 AM   #121
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I am setting up a 185G - 60"x30"x25". I am looking at using the 250W Radiums for a Mixed Reef with the goal being great color....but I have some LPS that I don't want to overpower. The canopy is divided into 3 sections so I could fit 3 lights or 2 on either end. Would I need Actinic supplementation with this bulb or is it going to be too much with 3?


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Old 09/16/2009, 08:21 PM   #122
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Tang, will your friend have fish only or will there be corals? My 150 is 30" high and visually my pair of 175W 14k bulbs light it up great. However I only have fish so don't worry about PAR. If there are corals involved then 250W minimum for that height and better yet, go with 400W if you want corals all the way to the bottom.


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Old 09/17/2009, 05:45 PM   #123
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I have a 125 standard 21 deep. I plan fish and corals. I will be starting with LPS and Leathers, then start integrating SPS ( as a first). Do I need 125 or 250 watt fixture>? I plan on going with a 1134watt MH/PC fixture by Odyssea.

My buddy is probably going to start off with VHO from is 75 and then move to MHs after he gets cash. The intial setup on these tanks is pretty tough financially, I am buying mostly used, but I have been taking my time and it is coming right along.
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Old 09/18/2009, 09:39 AM   #124
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Yeah, I bought a 3-bulb used retrofit MH setup for $100 complete with reflectors (made into DIY Lumenbrites), bases and ballasts. Added a couple of Plusrite 14k bulbs and this setup rocks! There are good deals out there in the used market.

BTW - what's up with your signature??


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Old 09/19/2009, 02:39 AM   #125
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24" deep 150g tank MH questions

So I have been doing salt for about 3 years now, but never got into the more powerful lighting systems. When I went with my 150, I decided to go with metal halides. Having never dealt with this form of lighting before, I have a few questions.

I want to keep mainly SPS and some clams, but have a small mix of others. I have kept LPS and softies great with PCs, so SPS are the only coral I have no experience with.

My plan was doing something like 250w 400w 250w left to right over the tank, perhaps supplementing with some T5s. Would this be enough? Would I need to add the T5s? My idea with the T5s was to have those pop on maybe two hours before the halides and then turn off maybe two hours after to give a dawn-dusk effect as well as allow me to shorten the time those HOT halides need to be burning throughout the day.

I have and will be doing a lot of reeding on the halide section of the forums. Thanks in advance for your time!

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EDIT: The tank is not up yet, but I suppose I should add that with a sand bed, the lowest depth would be something like 22"


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