Red fish, Blue fish, One fish, Two fish?

dreaminmel · 09/08/2008, 08:17 PM

My mind is swirling with possibilities right now... I need some serious help!

(multiple selections can be made in case you can't decide either...

)

Please help me decide the ultimate fish addition to my tank? Feel free to elaborate on your opinion as well... I can handle constructive criticism.

As I haven't seen my Lamarck Angel in two days now I'm assuming the current fish list in my 125 is as follows:

Scissortail Goby pair
Purple Firefish
Lone green chromis
Atlantic Blue Tang (only one that concerns me w/ aggression...)
Yellow Canary Wrasse
Diamond Goby

Corals include a frogspawn, a hammer, a torch, an acan, zoas, ricordia and multiple sps.

Gary Majchrzak · 09/08/2008, 08:27 PM

no Lori's Anthias?

you should try Lyretails!

dreaminmel · 09/08/2008, 08:45 PM

No... no more Lori's. I never saw the third one after putting them in and after a week the second one was on the sand bed with a chunk missing from it's side... don't get that as I don't have any crabs in my tank. (Well I didn't... I've got an emerald now.) The last remaining one seemed to really come out of it's shell and was bravely swimming around in the tank and then was also found on the sand bed. That last one wasn't missing any chunks though. It just had a really weird looking red colored rash on it's side. All other fish in the tank are still happy and healthy and showing no signs of parasites or disease.

I've thought about lyretails many times and have almost given in many times (at one point I had a solitary female in my old 72g bowfront) but I'm just not sure. They are gorgeous but everyone has them... perhaps I should willingly follow the crowd for once in my life?

Or maybe it's not following the crowd... just replicating nature... yeah, yeah... tons of ocean pics have lyretails in them right?! Hmmm... wonder if I can add another option to the poll still. EDIT: Doh! It seems only mods can do that... grr

tuckrule · 09/08/2008, 08:49 PM

I like the cardinals, they will add a different variety to the tank

Kent E · 09/08/2008, 09:09 PM

That's really strange about the anthias and has me puzzled.

dreaminmel · 09/08/2008, 09:42 PM

Me too Kent... The only other time I've seen anything like that redness was a big blotch on the side of a chromis in an LFS. The only fish that seemed to pick on them was the Lamarck Angel would occassionally chase them into their hole but I never saw her nip them... and now she's MIA for the past two days. Live Aquaria online is showing some and stating they only offer the Lori's from Cook Islands and Fiji as they are properly handled which made me briefly consider trying again with a larger group (not that I have any indication these were improperly handled) but they've now lowered the price to half off which makes me raise an eyebrow...

fatrip · 09/08/2008, 09:42 PM

RED SEA REGAL ANGLE...best looking fish ever!!! only fish i have seen in person to top it was a morish idol, or the spoted file fish that eats SPS, cant think of its name.

St.james of reefdom · 09/08/2008, 09:42 PM

japanese swallowtail angels would be my pick

dreaminmel · 09/08/2008, 09:45 PM

I tried two Swallowtails before from LA and they both had issues. Upon receipt one had swimming issues and was constantly eating air bubbles in my old 72g. The second one was around long enough to move into the 125g summer 2006 and then displayed the same behavior. LA was really good with me over the phone suggesting they may have had decompression issues during collection and suggested I feed them boiled peas but they wouldn't eat them no matter how hard I tried. Now I'm nervous about trying them again...

Gary Majchrzak · 09/08/2008, 09:48 PM

Lyretails- and set up an autofeeder. Eheim "Feed Air" 4x per day unit is one of the best. FORGET LORI's for cryin' out loud.

go see PCIALF's reef aquarium.

dreaminmel · 09/08/2008, 09:50 PM

So far we've got one vote for lyretails, one for cardinals, one for the regal angel and one for swallowtail angels. I really do like all of these fish... I need a bigger tank.

dreaminmel · 09/08/2008, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary Majchrzak
FORGET LORI's for cryin' out loud.

go see PCIALF's reef aquarium.

Alriiiight... I'll give up on the Lori's. I will keep the avatar for a while though as stern reminder.

Where's PCIALF?

Gary Majchrzak · 09/08/2008, 09:56 PM

he lurks here but rarely posts anymore.

dreaminmel · 09/08/2008, 10:00 PM

I'll do some searching then...

If I did go with the Lyretails, how many would you suggest? I would think like 5 but then my mind says well how about three of those and still a Regal? See... I really do have a problem as I know that would probably not be the best idea for a total fish load...

tmz · 09/08/2008, 10:00 PM

I like lyretais. Bartlets do well for me as well. If your tank is covered you could try some fairy and/or flasher wrasses. I do really like my female japanese swallow tail too.

dreaminmel · 09/08/2008, 10:02 PM

Tank is covered.

Your swallowtail never eats any bubbles? Mind me asking your source for it? (you can pm me if you want)

Conesus_Kid · 09/09/2008, 05:13 AM

I'd go with the lyretails too.

I've been burned with the "angel in a reef" gamble with my majestic. I can't keep any SPS corals in the tank because of it.

scaz · 09/09/2008, 05:37 AM

I would get some more green chromis and a drawf angel like a coral blue or flame.

tmz · 09/09/2008, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dreaminmel
Tank is covered. Your swallowtail never eats any bubbles? Mind me asking your source for it? (you can pm me if you want)

Do you mean bubble coral (plerogyra)? If so; I can't really say since my bubble coral is in a different tank. It did nip cynariana lacrymalis but nothing else. I've had her for over 3 yrs. I got her at Salt Water Paradise or A reef Creation. Can't remember which.

tmz · 09/09/2008, 09:50 AM

PS ,reread your thread. No it never ate air bubbles. Survived a terrrible ich outbreak and the October storm and power outage .I'd have to rate it ia pretty hardy.

dreaminmel · 09/09/2008, 08:46 PM

Hmmm... another option to keep in mind then. Thanks Tom

**Where'd the other 4 votes for the Cardinal group come from? It looks like they're winning at the moment...

tmz · 09/09/2008, 09:01 PM

I just got a couple of flasher wrasses today from dfs to go in my 89g with a hooded fairy wrasse,a leopard and a radiant. They are in qt.

dreaminmel · 09/09/2008, 09:10 PM

Oh I love wrasses but my two favorites are a little rich for my blood so I've tried to avoid them... If I had the money though I'd grab a Lineatus and/or a Laboutei. I've come very close to grabbing a Mccoskeri before. Did you pick the flashers from the wrasse section or Diver's Den? How do they look health-wise?

tmz · 09/09/2008, 09:58 PM

Diver's den. Super males with great color. They look healthy but I've had them in a no light tank all day. I'll see if they eat tomorow. Eyes are very clear ,so I don't think I need to worry about flukes which was common with them for a while several months ago. One of these days with help from you and Gary I'll hope to do a photo tour of my tanks. I just haven't been able to generate the motivation to mess with the computer and digital camera. Seems like I just spend too much time messwing with the tanks to take pictures and figure out how to p[ost them.

dreaminmel · 09/11/2008, 08:35 PM

Well... fate handed me one decision. I will be acquiring a Tennentti Tang from a fellow member in the next few weeks once they're able to catch it.

Sooo... would it be stretching it to also add a group of 3 of either the cardinals OR the anthias? I'm so nervous about overdoing it with fish and yet there's another member here with 21 fish in his 120g... thoughts?

View Poll Results: Eenie meenie minee mo! or combo?
Regal Angel	4	17.39%
Majestic Angel	4	17.39%
Tennentti Tang	2	8.70%
Group of Longspine Cardinals	10	43.48%
Other... like what?	3	13.04%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

09/08/2008, 08:17 PM	#1
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,645	Red fish, Blue fish, One fish, Two fish? My mind is swirling with possibilities right now... I need some serious help! (multiple selections can be made in case you can't decide either... ) Please help me decide the ultimate fish addition to my tank? Feel free to elaborate on your opinion as well... I can handle constructive criticism. As I haven't seen my Lamarck Angel in two days now I'm assuming the current fish list in my 125 is as follows: Scissortail Goby pair Purple Firefish Lone green chromis Atlantic Blue Tang (only one that concerns me w/ aggression...) Yellow Canary Wrasse Diamond Goby Corals include a frogspawn, a hammer, a torch, an acan, zoas, ricordia and multiple sps. __________________ ~Melanie~ "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.) Last edited by dreaminmel; 09/08/2008 at 08:25 PM.

09/08/2008, 08:27 PM	#2
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Spencerport, NY Posts: 38,665	no Lori's Anthias? you should try Lyretails! __________________ over 19 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC Current Tank Info: 72x24x30 225 gallon peninsula reef aquarium called Junior's Reef

09/08/2008, 08:45 PM	#3
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,645	No... no more Lori's. I never saw the third one after putting them in and after a week the second one was on the sand bed with a chunk missing from it's side... don't get that as I don't have any crabs in my tank. (Well I didn't... I've got an emerald now.) The last remaining one seemed to really come out of it's shell and was bravely swimming around in the tank and then was also found on the sand bed. That last one wasn't missing any chunks though. It just had a really weird looking red colored rash on it's side. All other fish in the tank are still happy and healthy and showing no signs of parasites or disease. I've thought about lyretails many times and have almost given in many times (at one point I had a solitary female in my old 72g bowfront) but I'm just not sure. They are gorgeous but everyone has them... perhaps I should willingly follow the crowd for once in my life? Or maybe it's not following the crowd... just replicating nature... yeah, yeah... tons of ocean pics have lyretails in them right?! Hmmm... wonder if I can add another option to the poll still. EDIT: Doh! It seems only mods can do that... grr __________________ ~Melanie~ "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

09/08/2008, 08:49 PM	#4
tuckrule Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greece, NY Posts: 887	I like the cardinals, they will add a different variety to the tank __________________ Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't. Current Tank Info: 90G reef 20g sump 2/250mh 4vhos

09/08/2008, 09:09 PM	#5
Kent E One Millionth Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Honeoye NY Posts: 4,273	That's really strange about the anthias and has me puzzled. __________________ 1000 gallon

09/08/2008, 09:42 PM	#6
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,645	Me too Kent... The only other time I've seen anything like that redness was a big blotch on the side of a chromis in an LFS. The only fish that seemed to pick on them was the Lamarck Angel would occassionally chase them into their hole but I never saw her nip them... and now she's MIA for the past two days. Live Aquaria online is showing some and stating they only offer the Lori's from Cook Islands and Fiji as they are properly handled which made me briefly consider trying again with a larger group (not that I have any indication these were improperly handled) but they've now lowered the price to half off which makes me raise an eyebrow... __________________ ~Melanie~ "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

09/08/2008, 09:42 PM	#7
fatrip Yup That Stuff Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: , ny Posts: 4,259	RED SEA REGAL ANGLE...best looking fish ever!!! only fish i have seen in person to top it was a morish idol, or the spoted file fish that eats SPS, cant think of its name. __________________ "We learn from history that we never learn anything from history." Hegel " because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods." H.

09/08/2008, 09:42 PM	#8
St.james of reefdom Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: VanEtten, New York Posts: 1,327	japanese swallowtail angels would be my pick __________________ A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing. Current Tank Info: 300DD,220 reef tank

09/08/2008, 09:45 PM	#9
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,645	I tried two Swallowtails before from LA and they both had issues. Upon receipt one had swimming issues and was constantly eating air bubbles in my old 72g. The second one was around long enough to move into the 125g summer 2006 and then displayed the same behavior. LA was really good with me over the phone suggesting they may have had decompression issues during collection and suggested I feed them boiled peas but they wouldn't eat them no matter how hard I tried. Now I'm nervous about trying them again... __________________ ~Melanie~ "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

09/08/2008, 09:48 PM	#10
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Spencerport, NY Posts: 38,665	Lyretails- and set up an autofeeder. Eheim "Feed Air" 4x per day unit is one of the best. FORGET LORI's for cryin' out loud. go see PCIALF's reef aquarium. __________________ over 19 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC Current Tank Info: 72x24x30 225 gallon peninsula reef aquarium called Junior's Reef

09/08/2008, 09:50 PM	#11
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,645	So far we've got one vote for lyretails, one for cardinals, one for the regal angel and one for swallowtail angels. I really do like all of these fish... I need a bigger tank. __________________ ~Melanie~ "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

09/08/2008, 09:56 PM	#13
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Spencerport, NY Posts: 38,665	he lurks here but rarely posts anymore. __________________ over 19 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC Current Tank Info: 72x24x30 225 gallon peninsula reef aquarium called Junior's Reef

09/08/2008, 10:00 PM	#14
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,645	I'll do some searching then... If I did go with the Lyretails, how many would you suggest? I would think like 5 but then my mind says well how about three of those and still a Regal? See... I really do have a problem as I know that would probably not be the best idea for a total fish load... __________________ ~Melanie~ "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

09/08/2008, 10:00 PM	#15
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 19,765	I like lyretais. Bartlets do well for me as well. If your tank is covered you could try some fairy and/or flasher wrasses. I do really like my female japanese swallow tail too. __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.

09/08/2008, 10:02 PM	#16
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,645	Tank is covered. Your swallowtail never eats any bubbles? Mind me asking your source for it? (you can pm me if you want) __________________ ~Melanie~ "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

09/09/2008, 05:13 AM	#17
Conesus_Kid Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Conesus, NY Posts: 3,548	I'd go with the lyretails too. I've been burned with the "angel in a reef" gamble with my majestic. I can't keep any SPS corals in the tank because of it. __________________ Scott Check out my homepage to see the Classroom Coral Reef! Friends don't give friends Kenya tree... Current Tank Info: 8' long reef in my classroom

09/09/2008, 05:37 AM	#18
scaz Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Amherst, NY Posts: 897	I would get some more green chromis and a drawf angel like a coral blue or flame. __________________ "there is always a bigger fish"

09/09/2008, 09:50 AM	#20
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 19,765	PS ,reread your thread. No it never ate air bubbles. Survived a terrrible ich outbreak and the October storm and power outage .I'd have to rate it ia pretty hardy. __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.

09/09/2008, 08:46 PM	#21
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,645	Hmmm... another option to keep in mind then. Thanks Tom **Where'd the other 4 votes for the Cardinal group come from? It looks like they're winning at the moment... __________________ ~Melanie~ "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

09/09/2008, 09:01 PM	#22
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 19,765	I just got a couple of flasher wrasses today from dfs to go in my 89g with a hooded fairy wrasse,a leopard and a radiant. They are in qt. __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.

09/09/2008, 09:10 PM	#23
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,645	Oh I love wrasses but my two favorites are a little rich for my blood so I've tried to avoid them... If I had the money though I'd grab a Lineatus and/or a Laboutei. I've come very close to grabbing a Mccoskeri before. Did you pick the flashers from the wrasse section or Diver's Den? How do they look health-wise? __________________ ~Melanie~ "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

09/09/2008, 09:58 PM	#24
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 19,765	Diver's den. Super males with great color. They look healthy but I've had them in a no light tank all day. I'll see if they eat tomorow. Eyes are very clear ,so I don't think I need to worry about flukes which was common with them for a while several months ago. One of these days with help from you and Gary I'll hope to do a photo tour of my tanks. I just haven't been able to generate the motivation to mess with the computer and digital camera. Seems like I just spend too much time messwing with the tanks to take pictures and figure out how to p[ost them. __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.

09/11/2008, 08:35 PM	#25
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,645	Well... fate handed me one decision. I will be acquiring a Tennentti Tang from a fellow member in the next few weeks once they're able to catch it. Sooo... would it be stretching it to also add a group of 3 of either the cardinals OR the anthias? I'm so nervous about overdoing it with fish and yet there's another member here with 21 fish in his 120g... thoughts? __________________ ~Melanie~ "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)