Leopard Wrasse Primer - Page 93

_Aaron_ · 08/05/2012, 06:24 AM

My new pair.

slapshot · 08/05/2012, 08:13 AM

Since you guys are the experts, what is the best way to get Prazi into a fish to deworm them? The fish is eating but won't eat prazi soaked food. Thank you.

stuifbol · 08/05/2012, 11:51 AM

Aaron,
which species is that??Awesome fish

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Originally Posted by _Aaron_

My new pair.

_Aaron_ · 08/05/2012, 11:52 AM

Macropharyngodon kuiteri.

stuifbol · 08/05/2012, 12:54 PM

Thnx,
haven't seen them before....expensive I suppose??

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Originally Posted by _Aaron_

Macropharyngodon kuiteri.

_Aaron_ · 08/05/2012, 01:04 PM

I think it bumped them up being that they're a pair, my other ones have been £20-£35. These were £125 for the pair.They're well rested, been in my LFS for almost 6 weeks so I figured I'd take a gamble on them.

iamwrasseman · 08/05/2012, 01:05 PM

i use prazi pro , its a treatment that contains paraziquel and that is what deworms them .it works pretty good and you can treat them in your DT if needed .

iamwrasseman · 08/05/2012, 01:06 PM

they look like they are in great shape ,best wishes !

stuifbol · 08/06/2012, 02:10 AM

Not so expensive as I thought

never saw them before at the LFS and he usually has special fish
6 weeks at LFS is good because they have greater changes for surviving in your tank

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Originally Posted by _Aaron_

I think it bumped them up being that they're a pair, my other ones have been £20-£35. These were £125 for the pair.They're well rested, been in my LFS for almost 6 weeks so I figured I'd take a gamble on them.

slapshot · 08/06/2012, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by iamwrasseman

i use prazi pro , its a treatment that contains paraziquel and that is what deworms them .it works pretty good and you can treat them in your DT if needed .

Thank you! So you don't soak the food?

Retzius · 08/07/2012, 08:33 AM

Hi guys! I am thinking of adding a black leopard wrasse to my tank. I saw one at a LFS inside a 40 gallon bowfront tank and thought it was the coolest fish. Its been there for quite a while and looks fat and healthy. However, it was not for sale. I was planning on ordering one through blue zoo aquatics. However, I'm afraid my tank is on the small side, its a 40 breeder but the tank at the LFS is no bigger. I did some reading here and thought I would check with you guys.

My inhabitants include a sixline wrasse, potters angelfish, small yellow tang for algae purposes (will remove after it grows), and percula clownfish. My sand bed is on the shallow side but I was told by another LFS that a sandbed did not matter. As long as I have live rock, the wrasse would bury itself in there. I respect his opinion because this guy had about 4 leopards in this tank and two choati wrasses for 2 years. He did say the choati was the hardest to keep. First time I saw a choati too.

What do you think, should I bite the bullet or refrain. Thanks!

96gts · 08/07/2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Retzius

Hi guys! I am thinking of adding a black leopard wrasse to my tank. I saw one at a LFS inside a 40 gallon bowfront tank and thought it was the coolest fish. Its been there for quite a while and looks fat and healthy. However, it was not for sale. I was planning on ordering one through blue zoo aquatics. However, I'm afraid my tank is on the small side, its a 40 breeder but the tank at the LFS is no bigger. I did some reading here and thought I would check with you guys.

My inhabitants include a sixline wrasse, potters angelfish, small yellow tang for algae purposes (will remove after it grows), and percula clownfish. My sand bed is on the shallow side but I was told by another LFS that a sandbed did not matter. As long as I have live rock, the wrasse would bury itself in there. I respect his opinion because this guy had about 4 leopards in this tank and two choati wrasses for 2 years. He did say the choati was the hardest to keep. First time I saw a choati too.

What do you think, should I bite the bullet or refrain. Thanks!

I think your sixline is going to be a problem with adding any other wrasse.

Retzius · 08/07/2012, 08:42 AM

How about adding him in my sump, for a while. I am willing to get rid of it. He does like to harass new comers.

iamwrasseman · 08/07/2012, 08:06 PM

i also think the six line will be problematic if he is well established . also the yellow tang may harass any newbies but the leopard is very mush quicker and also a high energy fish so if he makes it past the initial harassment you may be fine, but the six line will be the big hurdle and i would responsibly relocate him first .

RDtrack · 08/08/2012, 06:42 AM

Since you all have a lot of experience with Leopards I'm looking at getting a pair and was wondering if I'm better getting a pair of the same species or two different species.

If I did a pair it would be a macropharyngodon geoffroyi pair or if I didn't do a pair what should I pair with the potters?

Thanks for your help.

_Aaron_ · 08/08/2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by iamwrasseman

they look like they are in great shape ,best wishes !

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by stuifbol

Not so expensive as I thought

never saw them before at the LFS and he usually has special fish
6 weeks at LFS is good because they have greater changes for surviving in your tank

Totally agree, I've been watching them for that time trying to convince myself to buy them and justifying the cost. They seem to be settling well, still a bit erratic with getting up and going to bed but the others I have had have been the same.

Here's a pic of them together.

Retzius · 08/08/2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 96gts

I think your sixline is going to be a problem with adding any other wrasse.

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Originally Posted by iamwrasseman

i also think the six line will be problematic if he is well established . also the yellow tang may harass any newbies but the leopard is very mush quicker and also a high energy fish so if he makes it past the initial harassment you may be fine, but the six line will be the big hurdle and i would responsibly relocate him first .

Thanks for the reply guys.

Yeah, I called Blue Zoo Aquatics and they recommended adding a small mirror to keep the sixline wrasse busy. I will monitor for harassment and if it gets out of hand I will place him in my sump. The tang can also be a bully, I agree.

I ordered a leopard wrasse and black leopard wrasse.

mysterybox · 08/08/2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by iamwrasseman

i also think the six line will be problematic if he is well established . also the yellow tang may harass any newbies but the leopard is very mush quicker and also a high energy fish so if he makes it past the initial harassment you may be fine, but the six line will be the big hurdle and i would responsibly relocate him first .

Leopards need very peaceful fish as cohabitants....agreed.....

iamwrasseman · 08/08/2012, 07:55 PM

yes i would purchase a pair of females with the hopes that within a year one would turn male . this has worked well for me except i did have it backfire with a pair of black leopards . they were perfect for a few years and indeed one turned male but i moved them both at the same time into a different tank and the female immediately turned male and it became a war . i ended up selling my big male and the female ended up turning into a supermale and is a great tankmate to this day . come ta think of it he has to be ten years old this summer ,pretty cool .

flfireman1 · 08/09/2012, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Retzius

....... My sand bed is on the shallow side but I was told by another LFS that a sandbed did not matter. As long as I have live rock, the wrasse would bury itself in there. I respect his opinion because this guy had about 4 leopards in this tank and two choati wrasses for 2 years. He did say the choati was the hardest to keep. First time I saw a choati too.

What do you think, should I bite the bullet or refrain. Thanks!

I think everyone missed this little key bit of information here concentrating on the six line. While I would agree that your sixline (devil fish)is going to cause you problems with your new leopard or any other small fish you may add. Your going to need a sandbed. Leopards are not like other wrasses that will find holes in the rocks to hide in. They bury themselves in the sand, and if not providing a sandbed your only going to stress them out further.

If the employee said they didnt need one, he did not know what he was talking about!!!

I wouldnt say you need a deep sand bed, but just enough for the fish to bury itself completely under. My sandbed is 2 to 2.5 inches at the most, and all 4 of my wrasses bury themselves without any issues.

Good luck.

iamwrasseman · 08/09/2012, 07:49 PM

i have a few leopards and other burrowing wrasses that sleep with only partial coverage in the sand bed ,almost like sleeping with the sheets rolled back . lol

Retzius · 08/10/2012, 08:14 AM

Got my black leopard and leopard wrasse yesterday. The leopard wrasse started swimming in the tank and the six line went after it. It took me a good hour to get the six line into my sump. I am going to send him to another home, I want a peaceful tank not an aggressive tank. The Potters and Tang ignored both wrasses.

My leopard ate live brine and a little mysis shrimp. It seems to be doing well, only time will tell for now. The black wrasse buried itself in my 1-1.5" sandbed. Then came out while I was moving everything in trying to get the six line. It grazed the rock for a while and was hanging out with the leopard, it looks like they are buddies. Then buried itself underneath the gravel. They are both really cool looking, especially the black wrasse with the cream spots. Will report progress later.

Retzius · 08/10/2012, 08:17 AM

Thanks for the pointers flfireman. I will keep a close eye but it looks like my sandbed is deep enough because both wrasses are buried.

I did not know the six line was a devil fish, lol.

_Aaron_ · 08/11/2012, 12:39 PM

I have 2 bipartus and a meleagris reserved at my LFS to be added to my existing 5, what's everyone's thought's on adding 2 bipartus with one already in the tank? I'm looking to get one to change to male.

iamwrasseman · 08/11/2012, 07:54 PM

aaron you should be okay but the bipartus sometimes get to be aggresive but that is once they get older .

View Poll Results: Indicate those species you keep in your tank
Macropharyngodon bipartitus	5	26.32%
Macropharyngodon choati	1	5.26%
Macropharyngodon geoffroy	1	5.26%
Macropharyngodon meleagris	6	31.58%
Macropharyngodon negrosensis	5	26.32%
Other	1	5.26%
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

08/05/2012, 01:05 PM	#2307
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 6,976	i use prazi pro , its a treatment that contains paraziquel and that is what deworms them .it works pretty good and you can treat them in your DT if needed . __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?

08/05/2012, 01:06 PM	#2308
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 6,976	they look like they are in great shape ,best wishes ! __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?

08/07/2012, 08:06 PM	#2314
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 6,976	i also think the six line will be problematic if he is well established . also the yellow tang may harass any newbies but the leopard is very mush quicker and also a high energy fish so if he makes it past the initial harassment you may be fine, but the six line will be the big hurdle and i would responsibly relocate him first . __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?

08/08/2012, 07:55 PM	#2319
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 6,976	yes i would purchase a pair of females with the hopes that within a year one would turn male . this has worked well for me except i did have it backfire with a pair of black leopards . they were perfect for a few years and indeed one turned male but i moved them both at the same time into a different tank and the female immediately turned male and it became a war . i ended up selling my big male and the female ended up turning into a supermale and is a great tankmate to this day . come ta think of it he has to be ten years old this summer ,pretty cool . __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?

08/05/2012, 06:24 AM	#2301
_Aaron_ Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: UK Posts: 275	My new pair.

08/05/2012, 08:13 AM	#2302
slapshot Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Farmington Hills, Michigan Posts: 1,593	Since you guys are the experts, what is the best way to get Prazi into a fish to deworm them? The fish is eating but won't eat prazi soaked food. Thank you.

08/05/2012, 11:52 AM	#2304
_Aaron_ Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: UK Posts: 275	Macropharyngodon kuiteri.

08/05/2012, 01:04 PM	#2306
_Aaron_ Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: UK Posts: 275	I think it bumped them up being that they're a pair, my other ones have been £20-£35. These were £125 for the pair.They're well rested, been in my LFS for almost 6 weeks so I figured I'd take a gamble on them.

08/07/2012, 08:33 AM	#2311
Retzius Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 335	Hi guys! I am thinking of adding a black leopard wrasse to my tank. I saw one at a LFS inside a 40 gallon bowfront tank and thought it was the coolest fish. Its been there for quite a while and looks fat and healthy. However, it was not for sale. I was planning on ordering one through blue zoo aquatics. However, I'm afraid my tank is on the small side, its a 40 breeder but the tank at the LFS is no bigger. I did some reading here and thought I would check with you guys. My inhabitants include a sixline wrasse, potters angelfish, small yellow tang for algae purposes (will remove after it grows), and percula clownfish. My sand bed is on the shallow side but I was told by another LFS that a sandbed did not matter. As long as I have live rock, the wrasse would bury itself in there. I respect his opinion because this guy had about 4 leopards in this tank and two choati wrasses for 2 years. He did say the choati was the hardest to keep. First time I saw a choati too. What do you think, should I bite the bullet or refrain. Thanks!

08/07/2012, 08:42 AM	#2313
Retzius Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 335	How about adding him in my sump, for a while. I am willing to get rid of it. He does like to harass new comers.

08/08/2012, 06:42 AM	#2315
RDtrack Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 77	Since you all have a lot of experience with Leopards I'm looking at getting a pair and was wondering if I'm better getting a pair of the same species or two different species. If I did a pair it would be a macropharyngodon geoffroyi pair or if I didn't do a pair what should I pair with the potters? Thanks for your help.

08/09/2012, 07:49 PM	#2321
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 6,976	i have a few leopards and other burrowing wrasses that sleep with only partial coverage in the sand bed ,almost like sleeping with the sheets rolled back . lol __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?

08/10/2012, 08:14 AM	#2322
Retzius Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 335	Got my black leopard and leopard wrasse yesterday. The leopard wrasse started swimming in the tank and the six line went after it. It took me a good hour to get the six line into my sump. I am going to send him to another home, I want a peaceful tank not an aggressive tank. The Potters and Tang ignored both wrasses. My leopard ate live brine and a little mysis shrimp. It seems to be doing well, only time will tell for now. The black wrasse buried itself in my 1-1.5" sandbed. Then came out while I was moving everything in trying to get the six line. It grazed the rock for a while and was hanging out with the leopard, it looks like they are buddies. Then buried itself underneath the gravel. They are both really cool looking, especially the black wrasse with the cream spots. Will report progress later.

08/10/2012, 08:17 AM	#2323
Retzius Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 335	Thanks for the pointers flfireman. I will keep a close eye but it looks like my sandbed is deep enough because both wrasses are buried. I did not know the six line was a devil fish, lol.

08/11/2012, 12:39 PM	#2324
_Aaron_ Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: UK Posts: 275	I have 2 bipartus and a meleagris reserved at my LFS to be added to my existing 5, what's everyone's thought's on adding 2 bipartus with one already in the tank? I'm looking to get one to change to male.

08/11/2012, 07:54 PM	#2325
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 6,976	aaron you should be okay but the bipartus sometimes get to be aggresive but that is once they get older . __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?