looking for soft start code

bad santa · 11/28/2008, 08:40 PM

I just put a viper light on my tank and was wondering how to set up a soft start code in case of a power outage.

Here is my code:

LTS-A01 LIGHTS/HOOD FANS
FUG-A02 FUGE LIGHT/ FAN/ MOON LIGHTS
CHR-A03 CHILLER
CHP-A04 CHILLER PUMP
HET-A05 HEATER
ATO-A06 AUTO TOP OFF
NTL-A07 OPEN
PMP-A08 RETURN PUMP

if time > 00:00 then PMP on
if temp > 80.5 then CHP on
if temp < 79.5 then CHP off
if temp > 81.0 then CHR on
if temp < 80.0 then CHR off
if time > 8:00 then LTS on
if time > 21:00 then LTS off
if temp < 77.0 then HET on
if temp > 79.7 then HET off
if time > 08:00 then ATO on
if time >08:05 then ATO off
if time > 12:00 then ATO on
if time >12:05 then ATO off
if time > 17:00 then ATO on
if time >17:05 then ATO off
if time > 21:00 then ATO on
if time >21:03 then ATO off
IF TIME > 20:55 then FUG on
if time > 7:55 then Fug off

I am going to be adding this code also:

If Temp > 83.00 then LTS OFF
If Temp > 83.00 then HET OFF
If Temp < 75.0 then CHR OFF
If Temp < 75.0 then CHP OFF

kenargo · 11/28/2008, 08:44 PM

What do you mean by 'soft start' for your light? DC8 outlets 1-2, 4-7 are all soft start; there is nothing setup but I wanted to be sure I understand what you are asking for before I assume that is it. I suspect you are referring to something about the use of the 'if power' command but I don't fully understand the question.

stevensun · 11/29/2008, 02:25 AM

Ken, maybe you meant outlets 1-3 & 5-7 except 4 & 8 are soft start? I saw your other posts stating this but I can be wrong.

bad santa, this might be what you're looking for

Max Change 030 M Then LTS OFF

It will keep the light from turning back on within 30 mins after it's turned off to protect the bulb or ballast.

kenargo · 11/29/2008, 10:26 AM

Yea, typo; 1-3 and 5-7are soft start; 4 and 8 are relay controlled and not soft start.

Max Change will not activate after power fail; that is what you use the 'if power xxx the AAA OFF'; where xxx is the amount of time to keep the specified device (AAA) in the state indicated (OFF).

bad santa · 11/29/2008, 01:51 PM

sorry for the lack of info. I was looking for a code so the light doesnt turn off and then on in case there is a brief power outage or surge.

so the code would be?
if power 30 then LTS off

kenargo · 11/29/2008, 03:37 PM

The code you show will keep the light off for 30 minutes after power returns (following a power outage).

bad santa · 11/29/2008, 09:00 PM

thanks ken

edandsandy · 11/30/2008, 08:41 AM

what are the soft starts on the DC4's?

kenargo · 11/30/2008, 05:33 PM

None of the DC4 ports are soft-start; all ports on the DC4 are relay controlled.

bad santa · 01/18/2009, 04:23 PM

Ok i have changed my program a bit to cover a power failure so my lights dont fire up right away and i entered min and max for the heater and chiller.

Now a have a problem when i use my feed timer. The clock runs down to zero and doesnt power up the pumps. the chiller pump comes on about 5 min later and then the main pump comes on 2 min later. Can somebody tell me where i went wrong? Thanks

LTS-A01 LIGHTS/HOOD FANS
FUG-A02 FUGE LIGHT/ FAN/ MOON LIGHTS
CHR-A03 CHILLER
CHP-A04 CHILLER PUMP
HET-A05 HEATER
ATO-A06 AUTO TOP OFF
NTL-A07 OPEN
PMP-A08 RETURN PUMP

if time > 00:00 then CHP on
If temp < 75.0 then CHP off
if time > 00:00 then PMP on
if temp > 81.0 then CHR on
if temp < 80.0 then CHR off
if temp < 75.01 then CHR off
if time > 8:00 then LTS on
if time > 21:00 then LTS off
if temp > 83.00 then LTS off
if temp < 77.0 then HET on
if temp > 79.7 then HET off
Ii temp > 83.00 then HET off
if time > 08:00 then ATO on
if time >09:00 then ATO off
if time > 12:00 then ATO on
if time >13:00 then ATO off
if time > 17:00 then ATO on
if time >18:00 then ATO off
Ii time > 20:55 then FUG on
if time > 7:55 then FUG off
If power 30 then LTS off

If feed A 000 then PMP off ( 5 min. off )
If feed A 001 then CHP off ( 6 min. off )
If feed A 002 then CHR off ( 7 min. off )
If feed A 003 then ATO off ( 8 min. off )
If feed A 000 then FUG on

If Feed B 010 then PMP off ( 35 min off)
If Feed B 011 then ATO off ( 36 min. off)
If Feed B 012 then CHP off ( 37 min. off)
If Feed B 013 then CHR off ( 38 min. off)
if Feed B 000 then FUG on

FEED CYCLE A = 005 MIN.
FEED CYCLE B = 025 MIN.
FEED CYCLE C = 030 MIN.
FEED CYCLE D = 060 MIN.

kenargo · 01/18/2009, 09:57 PM

If you are talking about PMP timer; you need to turn it on:

If Time > 00:00 Then PMP ON

Then, when feed turns it off and completes it will return to the programmed state (on).

Make sense?

bad santa · 01/18/2009, 10:03 PM

i do have that statement. Its the 3rd line in my program

kenargo · 01/19/2009, 06:48 PM

Oh, missed it; didn't have my glasses on

I don't see an issue; does manual on/off work correctly (thinking that the main return pump might not be friendly on port 9 (a relay port).

StevieK · 01/21/2009, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Yea, typo; 1-3 and 5-7are soft start; 4 and 8 are relay controlled and not soft start.

what does "soft start" mean?

should we be using these outlets for our MHs?

thanks

bad santa · 01/21/2009, 06:04 PM

I must be a retard. I forgot about these lines of code:

If Feed B 010 then PMP off ( 35 min off)
If Feed B 011 then ATO off ( 36 min. off)

That is why my pumps stay off an extra 10 and 11 minutes.

Sorry Ken, I had a brain fart.

StevieK · 01/22/2009, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by StevieK
what does "soft start" mean?

should we be using these outlets for our MHs?

thanks

anyone?

d0ughb0y · 01/22/2009, 10:35 AM

it just means the outlet power will turn on close to the start of the ac sine wave (at 0v), so a lower voltage will drive the device. (alternating current fluctuates from 0v to 110v to 0v to -110v to 0v 60x per second).

I think it helps marketing of the product

whether it is effective or not, I don't know. I do not see any difference.

StevieK · 01/22/2009, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by d0ughb0y
it just means the outlet power will turn on close to the start of the ac sine wave (at 0v), so a lower voltage will drive the device. (alternating current fluctuates from 0v to 110v to 0v to -110v to 0v 60x per second).

I think it helps marketing of the product
whether it is effective or not, I don't know. I do not see any difference.

thanks doughboy ... i actually understood what you said (even i am surprised

), so it will make no difference to put MH in one position over another.

11/28/2008, 08:40 PM	#1
bad santa SCRK member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whittier, CA Posts: 1,402	looking for soft start code I just put a viper light on my tank and was wondering how to set up a soft start code in case of a power outage. Here is my code: LTS-A01 LIGHTS/HOOD FANS FUG-A02 FUGE LIGHT/ FAN/ MOON LIGHTS CHR-A03 CHILLER CHP-A04 CHILLER PUMP HET-A05 HEATER ATO-A06 AUTO TOP OFF NTL-A07 OPEN PMP-A08 RETURN PUMP if time > 00:00 then PMP on if temp > 80.5 then CHP on if temp < 79.5 then CHP off if temp > 81.0 then CHR on if temp < 80.0 then CHR off if time > 8:00 then LTS on if time > 21:00 then LTS off if temp < 77.0 then HET on if temp > 79.7 then HET off if time > 08:00 then ATO on if time >08:05 then ATO off if time > 12:00 then ATO on if time >12:05 then ATO off if time > 17:00 then ATO on if time >17:05 then ATO off if time > 21:00 then ATO on if time >21:03 then ATO off IF TIME > 20:55 then FUG on if time > 7:55 then Fug off I am going to be adding this code also: If Temp > 83.00 then LTS OFF If Temp > 83.00 then HET OFF If Temp < 75.0 then CHR OFF If Temp < 75.0 then CHP OFF __________________ Ed "Get Busy Living Or Get Busy Dying" "Were discussing man,...you have your wrong opinion i have my right one. Its called communication." Mac Inger Current Tank Info: working on establishing a 32 Gal. Nano-Cube

11/28/2008, 08:44 PM	#2
kenargo Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 8,207	What do you mean by 'soft start' for your light? DC8 outlets 1-2, 4-7 are all soft start; there is nothing setup but I wanted to be sure I understand what you are asking for before I assume that is it. I suspect you are referring to something about the use of the 'if power' command but I don't fully understand the question. __________________ Click on my name to visit my homepage and access a collection of AquaController and Apex software, tips, trick and other Q&A including a link to the 'unofficial Apex new users guide' with loads of helpful information and don't forget to put a pin in my location map. Current Tank Info: 225G, BK 300 Deluxe, Deltec PF601, Precision Marine Kalkreactor, 2-LMIII+6 pumps, SpectraPure UHE, Apex, LunarSim, Tunze 6305s. Mixed reef, clam, fish, etc.

11/29/2008, 10:26 AM	#4
kenargo Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 8,207	Yea, typo; 1-3 and 5-7are soft start; 4 and 8 are relay controlled and not soft start. Max Change will not activate after power fail; that is what you use the 'if power xxx the AAA OFF'; where xxx is the amount of time to keep the specified device (AAA) in the state indicated (OFF). __________________ Click on my name to visit my homepage and access a collection of AquaController and Apex software, tips, trick and other Q&A including a link to the 'unofficial Apex new users guide' with loads of helpful information and don't forget to put a pin in my location map. Current Tank Info: 225G, BK 300 Deluxe, Deltec PF601, Precision Marine Kalkreactor, 2-LMIII+6 pumps, SpectraPure UHE, Apex, LunarSim, Tunze 6305s. Mixed reef, clam, fish, etc.

11/29/2008, 01:51 PM	#5
bad santa SCRK member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whittier, CA Posts: 1,402	sorry for the lack of info. I was looking for a code so the light doesnt turn off and then on in case there is a brief power outage or surge. so the code would be? if power 30 then LTS off __________________ Ed "Get Busy Living Or Get Busy Dying" "Were discussing man,...you have your wrong opinion i have my right one. Its called communication." Mac Inger Current Tank Info: working on establishing a 32 Gal. Nano-Cube

11/29/2008, 03:37 PM	#6
kenargo Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 8,207	The code you show will keep the light off for 30 minutes after power returns (following a power outage). __________________ Click on my name to visit my homepage and access a collection of AquaController and Apex software, tips, trick and other Q&A including a link to the 'unofficial Apex new users guide' with loads of helpful information and don't forget to put a pin in my location map. Current Tank Info: 225G, BK 300 Deluxe, Deltec PF601, Precision Marine Kalkreactor, 2-LMIII+6 pumps, SpectraPure UHE, Apex, LunarSim, Tunze 6305s. Mixed reef, clam, fish, etc.

11/29/2008, 02:25 AM	#3
stevensun Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: S. CA Posts: 433	Ken, maybe you meant outlets 1-3 & 5-7 except 4 & 8 are soft start? I saw your other posts stating this but I can be wrong. bad santa, this might be what you're looking for Max Change 030 M Then LTS OFF It will keep the light from turning back on within 30 mins after it's turned off to protect the bulb or ballast.

11/29/2008, 09:00 PM	#7
bad santa SCRK member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whittier, CA Posts: 1,402	thanks ken __________________ Ed "Get Busy Living Or Get Busy Dying" "Were discussing man,...you have your wrong opinion i have my right one. Its called communication." Mac Inger Current Tank Info: working on establishing a 32 Gal. Nano-Cube

11/30/2008, 08:41 AM	#8
edandsandy Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NE Florida Posts: 2,325 Blog Entries: 2	what are the soft starts on the DC4's? __________________ Sandy ><((((º>`•.¸¸.•><((((º>´¯`•><((((º> .¸¸.><((((º>•.¸. , . .•><((((º>.¸¸. Current Tank Info: 375 Reef, 4) Lumen Bright, 4) Reeflux 400w MH, 4) Coralvue 400W Dimmable Ballast, 4) 36" 2 x 39w T5 HO, ACIII Pro, Deltec AP 902 Skimmer, GEO 618 Calcium Rea., GEO Kalk Rea., 2) Reeflo Snapper pumps, 2)50g Fugium 4) 6101 Tunze W/ 7095 Controll

11/30/2008, 05:33 PM	#9
kenargo Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 8,207	None of the DC4 ports are soft-start; all ports on the DC4 are relay controlled. __________________ Click on my name to visit my homepage and access a collection of AquaController and Apex software, tips, trick and other Q&A including a link to the 'unofficial Apex new users guide' with loads of helpful information and don't forget to put a pin in my location map. Current Tank Info: 225G, BK 300 Deluxe, Deltec PF601, Precision Marine Kalkreactor, 2-LMIII+6 pumps, SpectraPure UHE, Apex, LunarSim, Tunze 6305s. Mixed reef, clam, fish, etc.

01/18/2009, 04:23 PM	#10
bad santa SCRK member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whittier, CA Posts: 1,402	Ok i have changed my program a bit to cover a power failure so my lights dont fire up right away and i entered min and max for the heater and chiller. Now a have a problem when i use my feed timer. The clock runs down to zero and doesnt power up the pumps. the chiller pump comes on about 5 min later and then the main pump comes on 2 min later. Can somebody tell me where i went wrong? Thanks LTS-A01 LIGHTS/HOOD FANS FUG-A02 FUGE LIGHT/ FAN/ MOON LIGHTS CHR-A03 CHILLER CHP-A04 CHILLER PUMP HET-A05 HEATER ATO-A06 AUTO TOP OFF NTL-A07 OPEN PMP-A08 RETURN PUMP if time > 00:00 then CHP on If temp < 75.0 then CHP off if time > 00:00 then PMP on if temp > 81.0 then CHR on if temp < 80.0 then CHR off if temp < 75.01 then CHR off if time > 8:00 then LTS on if time > 21:00 then LTS off if temp > 83.00 then LTS off if temp < 77.0 then HET on if temp > 79.7 then HET off Ii temp > 83.00 then HET off if time > 08:00 then ATO on if time >09:00 then ATO off if time > 12:00 then ATO on if time >13:00 then ATO off if time > 17:00 then ATO on if time >18:00 then ATO off Ii time > 20:55 then FUG on if time > 7:55 then FUG off If power 30 then LTS off If feed A 000 then PMP off ( 5 min. off ) If feed A 001 then CHP off ( 6 min. off ) If feed A 002 then CHR off ( 7 min. off ) If feed A 003 then ATO off ( 8 min. off ) If feed A 000 then FUG on If Feed B 010 then PMP off ( 35 min off) If Feed B 011 then ATO off ( 36 min. off) If Feed B 012 then CHP off ( 37 min. off) If Feed B 013 then CHR off ( 38 min. off) if Feed B 000 then FUG on FEED CYCLE A = 005 MIN. FEED CYCLE B = 025 MIN. FEED CYCLE C = 030 MIN. FEED CYCLE D = 060 MIN. __________________ Ed "Get Busy Living Or Get Busy Dying" "Were discussing man,...you have your wrong opinion i have my right one. Its called communication." Mac Inger Current Tank Info: working on establishing a 32 Gal. Nano-Cube

01/18/2009, 09:57 PM	#11
kenargo Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 8,207	If you are talking about PMP timer; you need to turn it on: If Time > 00:00 Then PMP ON Then, when feed turns it off and completes it will return to the programmed state (on). Make sense? __________________ Click on my name to visit my homepage and access a collection of AquaController and Apex software, tips, trick and other Q&A including a link to the 'unofficial Apex new users guide' with loads of helpful information and don't forget to put a pin in my location map. Current Tank Info: 225G, BK 300 Deluxe, Deltec PF601, Precision Marine Kalkreactor, 2-LMIII+6 pumps, SpectraPure UHE, Apex, LunarSim, Tunze 6305s. Mixed reef, clam, fish, etc.

01/18/2009, 10:03 PM	#12
bad santa SCRK member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whittier, CA Posts: 1,402	i do have that statement. Its the 3rd line in my program __________________ Ed "Get Busy Living Or Get Busy Dying" "Were discussing man,...you have your wrong opinion i have my right one. Its called communication." Mac Inger Current Tank Info: working on establishing a 32 Gal. Nano-Cube

01/19/2009, 06:48 PM	#13
kenargo Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 8,207	Oh, missed it; didn't have my glasses on I don't see an issue; does manual on/off work correctly (thinking that the main return pump might not be friendly on port 9 (a relay port). __________________ Click on my name to visit my homepage and access a collection of AquaController and Apex software, tips, trick and other Q&A including a link to the 'unofficial Apex new users guide' with loads of helpful information and don't forget to put a pin in my location map. Current Tank Info: 225G, BK 300 Deluxe, Deltec PF601, Precision Marine Kalkreactor, 2-LMIII+6 pumps, SpectraPure UHE, Apex, LunarSim, Tunze 6305s. Mixed reef, clam, fish, etc.

01/21/2009, 06:04 PM	#15
bad santa SCRK member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whittier, CA Posts: 1,402	I must be a retard. I forgot about these lines of code: If Feed B 010 then PMP off ( 35 min off) If Feed B 011 then ATO off ( 36 min. off) That is why my pumps stay off an extra 10 and 11 minutes. Sorry Ken, I had a brain fart. __________________ Ed "Get Busy Living Or Get Busy Dying" "Were discussing man,...you have your wrong opinion i have my right one. Its called communication." Mac Inger Current Tank Info: working on establishing a 32 Gal. Nano-Cube

01/22/2009, 10:35 AM	#17
d0ughb0y Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,500	it just means the outlet power will turn on close to the start of the ac sine wave (at 0v), so a lower voltage will drive the device. (alternating current fluctuates from 0v to 110v to 0v to -110v to 0v 60x per second). I think it helps marketing of the product whether it is effective or not, I don't know. I do not see any difference.