Yellow Tang School In 180?

EAGLEB · 05/31/2009, 02:08 AM

Would it be possible to do a small school of Yellow Tangs in a 180g. If so how many?

AuroraDrvr · 05/31/2009, 02:09 AM

no

snorvich · 05/31/2009, 04:44 AM

They don't school, they don't get along. Your tank is too small.

jasert39 · 05/31/2009, 08:42 AM

lol...these are great responses.

Gary Majchrzak · 05/31/2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by jasert39
lol...these are great responses.

I fail to see any humor here.

I tried 3 YT's in a 300. It lasted about 10 months. Now I'm down to one.

snorvich · 05/31/2009, 09:10 AM

It seems as if one is the magic number for yellow tangs. I am not really sure why, as they (in my tank) were not overtly aggressive, at least when I was watching. My responses were intended to be funny although reflective of my experience. No offense was intended.

Ness · 05/31/2009, 10:28 AM

My LFS had 3 in a 180g for a year. And now they have 4 yellows and a black and purple tang in a 300g for 8 months now. My friend also has 2 in a 265g and 2 in a 125g for close to a year now. The only tank I saw them show aggression in was the 125g.

Sir Crabby · 05/31/2009, 11:35 AM

I have 2 yellows, 1 purple and a powder blue. In a 350 and all do ok on the occasional chase by the powder blue. they,ve been there for a year. I've also seen tv shows that show large schools of yellows together, but that is in the ocean. Most I've seen in a tank was 5 in a 500g, with no problems.

jasert39 · 05/31/2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Gary Majchrzak
I fail to see any humor here.

I tried 3 YT's in a 300. It lasted about 10 months. Now I'm down to one.

What I meant was the manner in which people answered...they both got right to the point, no filler, no bs.

I completely agree with both of their answers, just found it funny how they answered..

Gary Majchrzak · 05/31/2009, 12:33 PM

I believe we have 3 YT's in the 10 ft. long 560 gallon aquarium at our zoo. They never school. IME 3-5 YT's would seem to require at least 300 gallons with lots of hiding places (rockwork and/or corals) and water flow in order to disperse aggression.

Gary Majchrzak · 05/31/2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by jasert39
What I meant was the manner in which people answered...they both got right to the point, no filler, no bs.

I see.

This is the best way for it to be IMO. No BS

D-Rod · 05/31/2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by EAGLEB
Would it be possible to do a small school of Yellow Tangs in a 180g. If so how many?

Not a problem for 3 of them if they're all small and you have alot of hiding places.
In the end it's your tank!

down...down...tang police

AuroraDrvr · 05/31/2009, 02:13 PM

I've changed my opinion. I think you should do about 12 or so. They will divide into two schools of six. It will be exactly like the ocean in your tank!

snorvich · 05/31/2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Gary Majchrzak
I believe we have 3 YT's in the 10 ft. long 560 gallon aquarium at our zoo. They never school. IME 3-5 YT's would seem to require at least 300 gallons with lots of hiding places (rockwork and/or corals) and water flow in order to disperse aggression.

Well, 3 did not work in a 350 gallon tank, I ended up with one. However that one has lasted a long time. Perhaps in a larger tank, it would work.

MattL · 05/31/2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by D-Rod
Not a problem for 3 of them if they're all small and you have alot of hiding places.
In the end it's your tank!...

Any basis for this?

Quote:

Originally posted by EAGLEB
Would it be possible to do a small school of Yellow Tangs in a 180g. If so how many?

They won't even remotely "school" or shoal if they do survive (see the FAQ). You can put a lot in a 180. My advice is to not risk it and have three different fish after 2 years instead of one yellow tang. All expert accounts say no, it won't work in a tank the size of s 180.

Matt

tcmfish · 05/31/2009, 06:49 PM

We have four yellows in the 1500 gallon at the LFS I work at and they shoal here and there, but they are still small (4 inches). They have been in there for at least a year now.

I would not try it in a 180 though, one yellow.

small alien · 06/01/2009, 12:01 PM

The fish we keep belong to themselves and to "God", not to us. We are just their keepers and in that role, we must do our very best to honor these animals and keep them as well as we possibly can. It's not "your tank" in the way D-Rod would suggest. This hobby has a strong spiritual element and if you're missing that, you're missing a lot.

danorth · 06/01/2009, 01:08 PM

Strong spiritual element? Is it reef safe?

jubjub · 06/01/2009, 02:54 PM

is this considered schooling?
or just follow the leader....lol...

on a serious note i could never keep mor then 1 tang in anything under 100gal....yellows are mean ime

MattL · 06/01/2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by jubjub
is this considered schooling?
or just follow the leader....

Either the latter, or just coincidence (for a further explanation on why no fish in the hobby schools in our tanks, check the FAQ)

Matt

anbosu · 06/01/2009, 03:08 PM

Only if you have a killer protein skimmer.

snorvich · 06/01/2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jubjub
is this considered schooling?
or just follow the leader....lol...

on a serious note i could never keep mor then 1 tang in anything under 100gal....yellows are mean ime

No, not even close to schooling. Not even shoaling.

SMOOTHIE · 06/01/2009, 10:39 PM

They will get agressive for feeding and territory as they get larger. Same as us. Ok to split a pb&j with your buddy when you are little, but as a grown man you're gonna get hungry and tired and want your own space and then you'll punch your buddy in the face to eat the entire sandwich. When it works you will do it every day til your buddy dies and then you will have the pb&j and all the room to yourself. Kinda the point everyone is trying to make about having the same tangs for a longer period in that space

anbosu · 06/02/2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by SMOOTHIE
They will get agressive for feeding and territory as they get larger. Same as us. Ok to split a pb&j with your buddy when you are little, but as a grown man you're gonna get hungry and tired and want your own space and then you'll punch your buddy in the face to eat the entire sandwich. When it works you will do it every day til your buddy dies and then you will have the pb&j and all the room to yourself. Kinda the point everyone is trying to make about having the same tangs for a longer period in that space

I don't want to be friends with you!

Dante_JoseCuerv · 06/02/2009, 11:25 AM

I think you can keep them in groups of 6, as the aggression is spread out quite well in those numbers. Although... in a 180, AHAHAHAHAHA, don't even try it.

05/31/2009, 02:08 AM	#1
EAGLEB Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 15	Yellow Tang School In 180? Would it be possible to do a small school of Yellow Tangs in a 180g. If so how many?

05/31/2009, 02:09 AM	#2
AuroraDrvr Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Eastern Shore, AL Posts: 1,641	no __________________ -Todd

05/31/2009, 04:44 AM	#3
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Flatlander Posts: 26,106 Blog Entries: 27	They don't school, they don't get along. Your tank is too small. __________________ Warmest regards and best wishes, ~Steve~ It is my policy to not respond to those who ask questions not to learn but to be bellicose. Life is a series of decisions serially executed but collectively judged. "Not using a quarantine tank is like playing Russian roulette. Nobody wins the game, some people just get to play longer than others." - Anthony Calfo

05/31/2009, 09:10 AM	#6
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Flatlander Posts: 26,106 Blog Entries: 27	It seems as if one is the magic number for yellow tangs. I am not really sure why, as they (in my tank) were not overtly aggressive, at least when I was watching. My responses were intended to be funny although reflective of my experience. No offense was intended. __________________ Warmest regards and best wishes, ~Steve~ It is my policy to not respond to those who ask questions not to learn but to be bellicose. Life is a series of decisions serially executed but collectively judged. "Not using a quarantine tank is like playing Russian roulette. Nobody wins the game, some people just get to play longer than others." - Anthony Calfo

05/31/2009, 10:28 AM	#7
Ness Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 34	My LFS had 3 in a 180g for a year. And now they have 4 yellows and a black and purple tang in a 300g for 8 months now. My friend also has 2 in a 265g and 2 in a 125g for close to a year now. The only tank I saw them show aggression in was the 125g. __________________ All This Time I Swore I'd Never Be Like My Old Man What The Hay It's Time To Face Exactly What I Am Current Tank Info: 120g BB Tech Tank

05/31/2009, 08:42 AM	#4
jasert39 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: PA Posts: 731	lol...these are great responses.

05/31/2009, 11:35 AM	#8
Sir Crabby Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 187	I have 2 yellows, 1 purple and a powder blue. In a 350 and all do ok on the occasional chase by the powder blue. they,ve been there for a year. I've also seen tv shows that show large schools of yellows together, but that is in the ocean. Most I've seen in a tank was 5 in a 500g, with no problems. __________________ "For a wounded man shall say to his assailant, if I live I will kill you, if I die you are forgiven, such is the rule of Honor." Lamb of God Current Tank Info: 350 gal reef w/ 30gal refugium, 3" sandbed in main tank and refugium, 250 lbs LR, macro algae in fuge & 1lb of LR, assort. SPS, LPS, and zoos, 24 fish in main tank. Dwarf golden eel in fuge.

05/31/2009, 12:33 PM	#10
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Spencerport, NY Posts: 38,907	I believe we have 3 YT's in the 10 ft. long 560 gallon aquarium at our zoo. They never school. IME 3-5 YT's would seem to require at least 300 gallons with lots of hiding places (rockwork and/or corals) and water flow in order to disperse aggression. __________________ over 19 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC Current Tank Info: 72x24x30 225 gallon peninsula reef aquarium called Junior's Reef

05/31/2009, 02:13 PM	#13
AuroraDrvr Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Eastern Shore, AL Posts: 1,641	I've changed my opinion. I think you should do about 12 or so. They will divide into two schools of six. It will be exactly like the ocean in your tank! __________________ -Todd

05/31/2009, 06:49 PM	#16
tcmfish Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,607	We have four yellows in the 1500 gallon at the LFS I work at and they shoal here and there, but they are still small (4 inches). They have been in there for at least a year now. I would not try it in a 180 though, one yellow.

06/01/2009, 12:01 PM	#17
small alien The fungus is among us. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: School of Aquatic and Fishery Science, University of Washington Posts: 3,547	The fish we keep belong to themselves and to "God", not to us. We are just their keepers and in that role, we must do our very best to honor these animals and keep them as well as we possibly can. It's not "your tank" in the way D-Rod would suggest. This hobby has a strong spiritual element and if you're missing that, you're missing a lot. __________________ This moment is all we have. Current Tank Info: 75 mixed reef. M/F/F OSFF, M/F Leopards, M Mandy, F Scooter, Clown, Hector's Goby, Green Clown Goby, Priolepis sp, M/F Matted File, Multi-band and Bluestripe Pipes, Tailspot Blenny, Firefish, Canary Wrasse, Royal Gramma, Papua Toby Puffer.

06/01/2009, 01:08 PM	#18
danorth Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: roseville, CA Posts: 3,708	Strong spiritual element? Is it reef safe?

06/01/2009, 02:54 PM	#19
jubjub Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: vacaville, cali Posts: 2,701	is this considered schooling? or just follow the leader....lol... on a serious note i could never keep mor then 1 tang in anything under 100gal....yellows are mean ime __________________ "The world holds two classes of men - intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence." - Abu Ala Al-Maari

06/01/2009, 03:08 PM	#21
anbosu Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, Florida Posts: 2,572	Only if you have a killer protein skimmer.

06/01/2009, 10:39 PM	#23
SMOOTHIE Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Valdosta GA Posts: 498	They will get agressive for feeding and territory as they get larger. Same as us. Ok to split a pb&j with your buddy when you are little, but as a grown man you're gonna get hungry and tired and want your own space and then you'll punch your buddy in the face to eat the entire sandwich. When it works you will do it every day til your buddy dies and then you will have the pb&j and all the room to yourself. Kinda the point everyone is trying to make about having the same tangs for a longer period in that space

06/02/2009, 11:25 AM	#25
Dante_JoseCuerv Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sugar Grove, IL Posts: 1,213	I think you can keep them in groups of 6, as the aggression is spread out quite well in those numbers. Although... in a 180, AHAHAHAHAHA, don't even try it.