OT: Spider ID (Tad)

chrisqueenz · 06/10/2009, 03:26 PM

I know the pictures arent all that great but this about the 3rd sighting in my home of these nasty looking spiders that are about 3/4 of an inch big. Tad you might be able to tell what it is hopefully and whether it's cause for concern or not.

Thanks,
Chris
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SkiFletch · 06/10/2009, 05:10 PM

Well Chris, my name isn't Tad, but it might be what's generally referred to as a "Black House Spider"...

Gary Majchrzak · 06/10/2009, 05:21 PM

the spider appears to be... uh.... watered down

chrisqueenz · 06/10/2009, 08:05 PM

Yea, it was the only way I could slow the thing down.lol

chrisqueenz · 06/10/2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by SkiFletch
Well Chris, my name isn't Tad, but it might be what's generally referred to as a "Black House Spider"...

Doesn't sound like something I should be worried about then (right?)

chrisqueenz · 06/10/2009, 08:09 PM

I have done some quick research and it seems the black house spider is found in Australia?

SkiFletch · 06/10/2009, 08:16 PM

What little I know of them is that they're Australian in origin, not very common here and their bite is venomous but not at all deadly. More like a really bad bee sting. Very reclusive and not aggressive.

The ID is rather unlikely since they're not native american spiders, but man it sure does look like it...

dreaminmel · 06/10/2009, 08:17 PM

Spiders are your friends... I let mine live so that they can kill any other miscellaneous bugs that try to enter my house. A mosquito bite itches a heck of a lot longer than a spider bite. (provided you're not dealing with a poisonous spider...) If it helps I've got that version of spider living in my basement along with a couple others. The only ones I kill are the ones that have the striped butts that jump right off the wall at ya. That ticks me off a bit...

S Helinski · 06/10/2009, 09:52 PM

That's a scarry little bugger!

Frag that sucker!

Steve

PS: If you have big enough fish, you could feed it to them...

cardiffgiant · 06/11/2009, 08:10 AM

wow! creepy looking!!

museumguy · 06/11/2009, 12:52 PM

Hi Chris,

It is most likely a gravid (pregnant) female wolf spider, Family Lycosidae. This is just an educated guess though because with the spider being wet and the picture being a little dark it makes some of the more obvious identifying features a bit unclear. Harmless to humans and beneficial since it eats other bugs. Relatively sure it isn't the Black House Spider since I have never heard of a confirmed discovery of one in NY.

The only (mildly) poisonous/dangerous spider to humans in this area is the Yellow Sac Spider.

which if you look around your house you'll probably find a few.

Cheers,
Tad

Henry Colf · 06/21/2009, 06:08 PM

woke up with these bites on my neck Thursday morning...
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mr86mister · 06/21/2009, 06:42 PM

For your safety and if you have any children. I think an exterminator is needed. Do you live near woods at all?

Conesus_Kid · 06/21/2009, 06:52 PM

Wow!! Can you say "Extreme Closeup"?!?!?!

Did you have any reaction to the bites, Henry?

Looks like a very small vampire paid you a visit!

Henry Colf · 06/21/2009, 06:55 PM

Mike, no I live in Rochester. In the city no woods.

chrisqueenz · 06/21/2009, 06:58 PM

That looks rough

Henry Colf · 06/21/2009, 07:06 PM

Scott, the only reaction right now is that the area is swollen and sore. Im gonna call the doctors office tomorrow and see if I can get in.

adambirk · 06/21/2009, 07:40 PM

i hate spiders i say nuke them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chrisqueenz · 06/21/2009, 07:47 PM

Dont want to scare ya Henry, but the reason why I started this thread was because of a similiar bump on my sons finger that tranformed in 4 days to this,
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A bunch of test were done at Strong hospital and it was determined that it was niether viral or a bacteria infection. The best they could give me was that it was some kind of bite.

kenqc · 06/21/2009, 09:23 PM

it appears that it is a black widow.

kenqc · 06/21/2009, 09:24 PM

call an exterminator in any event. spiders are evil and the average human swallows 2-3 a year or so the urban legend goes.

museumguy · 06/21/2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Henry Colf
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Those look just like what you'd expect to see on a yellow sac spider bit, FYI. I'm by no means a doctor or an expert on spider bites though.

-Tad

museumguy · 06/21/2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by kenqc
call an exterminator in any event. spiders are evil and the average human swallows 2-3 a year or so the urban legend goes.

I love this type of legend. A lot of people are kinda freaked out by the thought of eating a few bugs spaced out over months or years. You eat more bugs than this per week. WAY more. Possibly even more per day depending on your diet.

If you don't believe me, look up the USDA standards for insect contamination allowed in food. Or try it yourself... take a bunch of bananas, stick them in a bag and seal it really tight. Now wait a week. Look in the bag and holy cow there's fruit flies in there! They didn't get in from the outside...

PS. The USDA allows 20 insect parts per 1 oz bar of chocolate.

PSS The USDA did a study on processed cereals back in the 90s. They found ther was more protein from insect contamination than from the actual cereal.

Hephalump · 06/22/2009, 12:35 AM

Spider bites are painful for a couple of days then go away, but if you kill spiders because of the rare instances when they bite, I might ask then why you don't kill every dog you see, since their bites are far more painful.

johno4 · 06/22/2009, 05:55 AM

Chris, your poor son it looks painful. Did they rule out a Brown Recluse Spider? Its the first thing that I thought of when I saw the pics. of his finger. They leave a real nasty bite and often the person does not know they were bitten. I hope he heals up.

06/10/2009, 03:26 PM	#1
chrisqueenz Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rochester New York, USA Posts: 2,042	OT: Spider ID (Tad) I know the pictures arent all that great but this about the 3rd sighting in my home of these nasty looking spiders that are about 3/4 of an inch big. Tad you might be able to tell what it is hopefully and whether it's cause for concern or not. Thanks, Chris [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]

06/10/2009, 05:10 PM	#2
SkiFletch Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: N Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,665	Well Chris, my name isn't Tad, but it might be what's generally referred to as a "Black House Spider"... __________________ You will miss 100% of the shots you dont take. Dare to dream Mike, aka Fletch Current Tank Info: 65 gallon reef

06/10/2009, 05:21 PM	#3
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	the spider appears to be... uh.... watered down __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

06/10/2009, 08:16 PM	#7
SkiFletch Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: N Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,665	What little I know of them is that they're Australian in origin, not very common here and their bite is venomous but not at all deadly. More like a really bad bee sting. Very reclusive and not aggressive. The ID is rather unlikely since they're not native american spiders, but man it sure does look like it... __________________ You will miss 100% of the shots you dont take. Dare to dream Mike, aka Fletch Current Tank Info: 65 gallon reef

06/10/2009, 08:17 PM	#8
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,758	Spiders are your friends... I let mine live so that they can kill any other miscellaneous bugs that try to enter my house. A mosquito bite itches a heck of a lot longer than a spider bite. (provided you're not dealing with a poisonous spider...) If it helps I've got that version of spider living in my basement along with a couple others. The only ones I kill are the ones that have the striped butts that jump right off the wall at ya. That ticks me off a bit... __________________ ~Melanie~ Hiatus over, 120g in process "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

06/10/2009, 08:05 PM	#4
chrisqueenz Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rochester New York, USA Posts: 2,042	Yea, it was the only way I could slow the thing down.lol

06/10/2009, 08:09 PM	#6
chrisqueenz Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rochester New York, USA Posts: 2,042	I have done some quick research and it seems the black house spider is found in Australia?

06/10/2009, 09:52 PM	#9
S Helinski Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: El Paso, TX / Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,489	That's a scarry little bugger! Frag that sucker! Steve PS: If you have big enough fish, you could feed it to them... __________________ In Vino Veritas--In Wine, Truth. "The only power other people have is the power you give them." Current Tank Info: 34 Gallon Solana

06/11/2009, 08:10 AM	#10
cardiffgiant Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 3,455	wow! creepy looking!!

06/11/2009, 12:52 PM	#11
museumguy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: St Louis, MO Posts: 1,089	Hi Chris, It is most likely a gravid (pregnant) female wolf spider, Family Lycosidae. This is just an educated guess though because with the spider being wet and the picture being a little dark it makes some of the more obvious identifying features a bit unclear. Harmless to humans and beneficial since it eats other bugs. Relatively sure it isn't the Black House Spider since I have never heard of a confirmed discovery of one in NY. The only (mildly) poisonous/dangerous spider to humans in this area is the Yellow Sac Spider. which if you look around your house you'll probably find a few. Cheers, Tad

06/21/2009, 06:08 PM	#12
Henry Colf Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Rochester Posts: 2,926	woke up with these bites on my neck Thursday morning... [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]

06/21/2009, 06:42 PM	#13
mr86mister Saltaholic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Liverpool, NY Posts: 1,935	For your safety and if you have any children. I think an exterminator is needed. Do you live near woods at all? __________________ -Mike- Current Tank Info: I like turtles.....

06/21/2009, 06:52 PM	#14
Conesus_Kid Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Conesus, NY Posts: 3,897	Wow!! Can you say "Extreme Closeup"?!?!?! Did you have any reaction to the bites, Henry? Looks like a very small vampire paid you a visit! __________________ Scott Friends don't give friends Kenya tree...

06/21/2009, 06:55 PM	#15
Henry Colf Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Rochester Posts: 2,926	Mike, no I live in Rochester. In the city no woods.

06/21/2009, 06:58 PM	#16
chrisqueenz Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rochester New York, USA Posts: 2,042	That looks rough

06/21/2009, 07:06 PM	#17
Henry Colf Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Rochester Posts: 2,926	Scott, the only reaction right now is that the area is swollen and sore. Im gonna call the doctors office tomorrow and see if I can get in.

06/21/2009, 07:40 PM	#18
adambirk Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: michigan Posts: 358	i hate spiders i say nuke them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

06/21/2009, 07:47 PM	#19
chrisqueenz Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rochester New York, USA Posts: 2,042	Dont want to scare ya Henry, but the reason why I started this thread was because of a similiar bump on my sons finger that tranformed in 4 days to this, [IMG][/IMG] [[IMG][/IMG] A bunch of test were done at Strong hospital and it was determined that it was niether viral or a bacteria infection. The best they could give me was that it was some kind of bite. Last edited by chrisqueenz; 06/21/2009 at 08:13 PM.

06/21/2009, 09:23 PM	#20
kenqc Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: webster, NY Posts: 161	it appears that it is a black widow. __________________ Ken aka King Hyperbole Current Tank Info: 60 gal beginning reef and 50 gal fowlrs

06/21/2009, 09:24 PM	#21
kenqc Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: webster, NY Posts: 161	call an exterminator in any event. spiders are evil and the average human swallows 2-3 a year or so the urban legend goes. __________________ Ken aka King Hyperbole Current Tank Info: 60 gal beginning reef and 50 gal fowlrs

06/22/2009, 12:35 AM	#24
Hephalump Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 244	Spider bites are painful for a couple of days then go away, but if you kill spiders because of the rare instances when they bite, I might ask then why you don't kill every dog you see, since their bites are far more painful. __________________ You can change your socks, but if you don't wash your feet they will still stink. Current Tank Info: 65 gal bowfront mixed reef, Maxspect Razor 160w, Reef Octopus NW150, Aquamaxx Nano calcium reactor, vortech mp40, pair of ocellaris clowns, starry blenny.

06/22/2009, 05:55 AM	#25
johno4 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,526	Chris, your poor son it looks painful. Did they rule out a Brown Recluse Spider? Its the first thing that I thought of when I saw the pics. of his finger. They leave a real nasty bite and often the person does not know they were bitten. I hope he heals up.