Whats happening to my caps?

innercirclepro · 07/10/2009, 06:49 PM

Ive noticed a few white spots forming on the caps. also the orange cap has a much larger then normal white rim so i suspect its something besides growth. anyone care to chime in?
Everything else in the tank seems normal. parameters are all normal. my guess would be some kind of pest?

reefboy1994 · 07/10/2009, 06:55 PM

looks like growth on the rim, the spot could have been a pice of salt landed on it or poo sat there for a while.

innercirclepro · 07/10/2009, 06:57 PM

so no worry about some monti eating nudi or somthing?

eggiel · 07/10/2009, 09:02 PM

I would look for nudi branchs
Try and take out one of those montiporas and hit it with a turkey baster you should see something

reefer334 · 07/10/2009, 09:55 PM

Most Likley Monti Nudibranch's, they love caps.

Tc269 · 07/11/2009, 02:18 AM

I had this happen to me also but I didnt catch it in time... I was running an ULNS or alteast a LNS and my alk creeped up on me and my caps were the first to show signs. Cant run a ULNS with high alk. check to see if this is the problem

innercirclepro · 07/11/2009, 05:23 AM

Alk is 10. But I wouldn't say I had ulns. Salifet and API at double strength test zero
phos

eggiel · 07/11/2009, 06:16 AM

Look for the buggers before its to late

innercirclepro · 07/11/2009, 06:29 AM

looks didn't see. Agh I don't wanna break the caps to take th out they are fully encrusted

sarajo · 07/11/2009, 11:15 AM

if you have nudi's get some yellow wrasses, did the job for me haven't seen a nudi since adding them.

innercirclepro · 07/11/2009, 11:44 AM

will a yellow coris wrasse work? what will they eat after the nudi or nudis are gone?

innercirclepro · 07/11/2009, 11:45 AM

well 3 of the 4 caps are on one rick which if im careful i can remove and dip the whole rock. is 3-4 gallons of tank water how many drops of lugols should i use?

innercirclepro · 07/11/2009, 11:46 AM

is it possible when i pull the rock they may not be present that particular moment? i mean some where else in other rock work since i havent seen them visually

eggiel · 07/11/2009, 11:54 AM

Do this i did it and it work for me get salifert flatworm exit it wont harm your corals or fish

Do half the dosing for you current tank with the pumps off close to the montiporas and then blast it with a turkey baster thay willl flow up the surface

If you see them than try a taking the coral out and dip them

Also you could get a Radiante Wrasse this will help you 100%
on all your corals

innercirclepro · 07/11/2009, 12:01 PM

will radiante wrasse fight the 6 line wrasse?

Tc269 · 07/11/2009, 03:10 PM

i dont believe flat worms are your issue. With the pic of the green cap I would say yes but the orange and tan cap do not follow the usual bite mark of flat worms they look like burnt tips.. just my 2 cents.

eggiel · 07/12/2009, 02:36 PM

Flatworm Exit helps getting the nudibranch out it worked for me then I put a small radiante wrasse in. It took care of the rest

I really dont know if it will fight with a six line best thing always is to try

innercirclepro · 07/12/2009, 05:53 PM

Well I took the caps out and dipped them in a tea colors lugols dip. I'll dip then again tomorrow but didn't see anything and
really do t beleive that's my problem.

eggiel · 07/12/2009, 09:45 PM

good news then at least your free of nudis

innercirclepro · 07/12/2009, 09:48 PM

now i have to figure out what it is.. oh well just coral...

matt the fiddler · 07/13/2009, 12:39 AM

have you done a waterchange?

when in doubt.. waterchange

ReefWreak · 07/13/2009, 07:41 AM

I think its the alk. That entire m. Danae superman colony of mine that has been receeding the only thing I could point to was alk at 11. Now that alk is down around 7-8, I see the colony coming back andlooking healthier already. No other changes made.

Btw I don't think lugols gets rid of monti nudies, just irritates them.

Tc269 · 07/13/2009, 04:43 PM

YEAH someone that agrees with me lol i think 10 is a little too high mine was at 9 and I had this exact same looking caps you did now its at 7-8 and everything is looking good

innercirclepro · 07/13/2009, 05:37 PM

good too know! some people keep theres at 12dkh though? well i tuned the doser back for a few days. im not gonna do anything drastic like a water change lol. Wednesday ill have more time ill do a water change.

RockDocPro · 07/13/2009, 07:53 PM

I actually try to keep my alk at 7-8dkh. I have had problems at higher levels, both montis and acros.

07/10/2009, 06:49 PM	#1
innercirclepro Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: boynton beach Posts: 1,066	Whats happening to my caps? Ive noticed a few white spots forming on the caps. also the orange cap has a much larger then normal white rim so i suspect its something besides growth. anyone care to chime in? Everything else in the tank seems normal. parameters are all normal. my guess would be some kind of pest?

07/10/2009, 06:55 PM	#2
reefboy1994 Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 362	looks like growth on the rim, the spot could have been a pice of salt landed on it or poo sat there for a while. __________________ --Charlie-- 40 Breeder Mixed Reef Current Tank Info: 30 Gallon Rimless -- Mainly Softie tank and a few 'Nems

07/10/2009, 06:57 PM	#3
innercirclepro Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: boynton beach Posts: 1,066	so no worry about some monti eating nudi or somthing? __________________ I'm training to run in the January 2010 Disney Marathon to raise funds to help stop leukemia and lymphoma. Current Tank Info: 90 gmixed reef

07/11/2009, 02:18 AM	#6
Tc269 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 615	I had this happen to me also but I didnt catch it in time... I was running an ULNS or alteast a LNS and my alk creeped up on me and my caps were the first to show signs. Cant run a ULNS with high alk. check to see if this is the problem __________________ Want to See my Mini Build Click my little red house. Current Tank Info: 55gallon with 300watt MH 14K lights and a turbo flotor multi skimmer

07/11/2009, 05:23 AM	#7
innercirclepro Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: boynton beach Posts: 1,066	Alk is 10. But I wouldn't say I had ulns. Salifet and API at double strength test zero phos __________________ I'm training to run in the January 2010 Disney Marathon to raise funds to help stop leukemia and lymphoma. Current Tank Info: 90 gmixed reef

07/10/2009, 09:02 PM	#4
eggiel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 339	I would look for nudi branchs Try and take out one of those montiporas and hit it with a turkey baster you should see something

07/10/2009, 09:55 PM	#5
reefer334 Moved On Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: West Sacramento in Sunny California Posts: 3,240	Most Likley Monti Nudibranch's, they love caps.

07/11/2009, 06:16 AM	#8
eggiel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 339	Look for the buggers before its to late

07/11/2009, 06:29 AM	#9
innercirclepro Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: boynton beach Posts: 1,066	looks didn't see. Agh I don't wanna break the caps to take th out they are fully encrusted __________________ I'm training to run in the January 2010 Disney Marathon to raise funds to help stop leukemia and lymphoma. Current Tank Info: 90 gmixed reef

07/11/2009, 11:15 AM	#10
sarajo Moved On Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 97	if you have nudi's get some yellow wrasses, did the job for me haven't seen a nudi since adding them.

07/11/2009, 11:44 AM	#11
innercirclepro Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: boynton beach Posts: 1,066	will a yellow coris wrasse work? what will they eat after the nudi or nudis are gone? __________________ I'm training to run in the January 2010 Disney Marathon to raise funds to help stop leukemia and lymphoma. Current Tank Info: 90 gmixed reef

07/11/2009, 11:45 AM	#12
innercirclepro Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: boynton beach Posts: 1,066	well 3 of the 4 caps are on one rick which if im careful i can remove and dip the whole rock. is 3-4 gallons of tank water how many drops of lugols should i use? __________________ I'm training to run in the January 2010 Disney Marathon to raise funds to help stop leukemia and lymphoma. Current Tank Info: 90 gmixed reef

07/11/2009, 11:46 AM	#13
innercirclepro Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: boynton beach Posts: 1,066	is it possible when i pull the rock they may not be present that particular moment? i mean some where else in other rock work since i havent seen them visually __________________ I'm training to run in the January 2010 Disney Marathon to raise funds to help stop leukemia and lymphoma. Current Tank Info: 90 gmixed reef

07/11/2009, 11:54 AM	#14
eggiel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 339	Do this i did it and it work for me get salifert flatworm exit it wont harm your corals or fish Do half the dosing for you current tank with the pumps off close to the montiporas and then blast it with a turkey baster thay willl flow up the surface If you see them than try a taking the coral out and dip them Also you could get a Radiante Wrasse this will help you 100% on all your corals

07/11/2009, 12:01 PM	#15
innercirclepro Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: boynton beach Posts: 1,066	will radiante wrasse fight the 6 line wrasse? __________________ I'm training to run in the January 2010 Disney Marathon to raise funds to help stop leukemia and lymphoma. Current Tank Info: 90 gmixed reef

07/11/2009, 03:10 PM	#16
Tc269 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 615	i dont believe flat worms are your issue. With the pic of the green cap I would say yes but the orange and tan cap do not follow the usual bite mark of flat worms they look like burnt tips.. just my 2 cents. __________________ Want to See my Mini Build Click my little red house. Current Tank Info: 55gallon with 300watt MH 14K lights and a turbo flotor multi skimmer

07/12/2009, 02:36 PM	#17
eggiel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 339	Flatworm Exit helps getting the nudibranch out it worked for me then I put a small radiante wrasse in. It took care of the rest I really dont know if it will fight with a six line best thing always is to try

07/12/2009, 05:53 PM	#18
innercirclepro Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: boynton beach Posts: 1,066	Well I took the caps out and dipped them in a tea colors lugols dip. I'll dip then again tomorrow but didn't see anything and really do t beleive that's my problem. __________________ I'm training to run in the January 2010 Disney Marathon to raise funds to help stop leukemia and lymphoma. Current Tank Info: 90 gmixed reef

07/12/2009, 09:45 PM	#19
eggiel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 339	good news then at least your free of nudis

07/12/2009, 09:48 PM	#20
innercirclepro Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: boynton beach Posts: 1,066	now i have to figure out what it is.. oh well just coral... __________________ I'm training to run in the January 2010 Disney Marathon to raise funds to help stop leukemia and lymphoma. Current Tank Info: 90 gmixed reef

07/13/2009, 12:39 AM	#21
matt the fiddler Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Quad Cities Posts: 1,897	have you done a waterchange? when in doubt.. waterchange

07/13/2009, 07:41 AM	#22
ReefWreak Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Astoria, NYC Posts: 10,159	I think its the alk. That entire m. Danae superman colony of mine that has been receeding the only thing I could point to was alk at 11. Now that alk is down around 7-8, I see the colony coming back andlooking healthier already. No other changes made. Btw I don't think lugols gets rid of monti nudies, just irritates them. Last edited by ReefWreak; 07/13/2009 at 07:47 AM.

07/13/2009, 04:43 PM	#23
Tc269 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 615	YEAH someone that agrees with me lol i think 10 is a little too high mine was at 9 and I had this exact same looking caps you did now its at 7-8 and everything is looking good __________________ Want to See my Mini Build Click my little red house. Current Tank Info: 55gallon with 300watt MH 14K lights and a turbo flotor multi skimmer

07/13/2009, 05:37 PM	#24
innercirclepro Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: boynton beach Posts: 1,066	good too know! some people keep theres at 12dkh though? well i tuned the doser back for a few days. im not gonna do anything drastic like a water change lol. Wednesday ill have more time ill do a water change. __________________ I'm training to run in the January 2010 Disney Marathon to raise funds to help stop leukemia and lymphoma. Current Tank Info: 90 gmixed reef

07/13/2009, 07:53 PM	#25
RockDocPro Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SW Florida Posts: 111	I actually try to keep my alk at 7-8dkh. I have had problems at higher levels, both montis and acros.