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Idea replenishing trace elements .. is a stupid idea or possible?
Trace elements could be incorporated into daily adding small amounts of salt to dissolve in sump?
You could then make changes very remote and replenish what was lost by adding the salt .. Cheun not believe you've found the daily dose is a good thing to do? If you think about it when we change the water we do it with the intention of restoring .. and we have made this case both the volta.In little at a time without water. You say?
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Salt mixes already include trace elements in them. I'm not generally a believer that most folks need more, but if you do, I would not add them to the salt mix as they may precipitate out of solution before they get to the main tank, as you would have made an unusually high concentration of them in seawater.
Some specific ones might be OK (potassium, for example). Can you list the ones you know you want to dose?
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Instead of going to the trouble of adding trace elements on a regular basis, perhaps doing daily small water changes would be more effective, since the saltmixes are so high in these trace elements.
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for example, every day I am put in a sump teaspoon of baking soda because I use the balling method and keep a constant kh at 8-9 .. if you want ... is not increased by adding more could be done the same with salt to maintain potassium, strontium, fluorine, mobilideno, boron iron iodine nele right amount?
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one tablespoon a day of What?
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Personally, I do water changes to REMOVE excess trace elements more than to replace them.
I believe that there are so many elements added (even good ones) just when feeding the fish/corals/inverts, that I want those lowered and the easiest way for me is the water change.
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He's talking about adding salt mix. IIRC, many do it that way, just with NaCl free salt.
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Rather than make changes and additions to close, you could put every day a certain quantity of salt to restore trace elements lost?
For example: a tablespoon of salt each day ...?
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That's the classic Balling method. Calcium chloride, Sodium Carbonate, and NaCl free salt. Newere versions have become more popular using a mixture of MgCl and MgSO4 as the third component.
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frank88:
What do you add to the aquarium now?
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How often do you do water changes Frank? I found a weekly 20% water change on my systems was more than enough to replenish trace elements, and provided better growth for corals. My .02.
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I use balling and do change weekly 120 liters 1,300 liters.
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Frank88, the amount of water you change can vary with what you have in the tanks. Also, personal preferences come into play as well.
Some do monthly changes, some do weekly, and some do daily. I change about 20% every two weeks which would be similar to your 10% weekly. Your weekly method would keep levels more stable, but mine works for me and I'm too lazy to change more often. Unless you have something that is using a heck of a lot of the trace elements, I don't think it's a big deal for an exact amount in a certain period of time.
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