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12/24/2009, 02:05 AM | #1 |
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Ozonizers
What do you use?
What are your likes and dislikes? Whatever I do, I will control with my Apex. I saw the Ultrazone Series Ozone Generators online. Ever used them? I have a 115 and currently cycling a 280. The both of them will ultimatley be connected and run as one system. |
12/24/2009, 11:07 AM | #2 |
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I am using an Enaly ozone generator with built in air pump. $35 and works excellent. Mine is controlled by my RKE and the ozone is injected straight into my MRC-3R Beckett skimmer.
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12/24/2009, 11:58 AM | #3 |
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Ozotech. All they do is ozone. Very high quality, made in USA.
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12/24/2009, 12:58 PM | #4 |
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Do either of you have the model number that you are using?
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12/24/2009, 01:27 PM | #5 |
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A am using a Sanders Certizon C50 50 grams /hr. I need some device holding GAC to put on the discharge of the ASM G-1 protein skimmer to convert the hypobromous ion back to bromide.
My corals are not completely open since I started using ozone. I attribute this to the toxic hypobromous (ion) acid. I use the default settings on the Apex unit on at 360 mv and off at 375. I really like the Apex unit controlling this function. The graph of ORP versus time is a saw tooth wave. When you add food ORP drops way down and then comes up. Spend more time designing your Carbon unit before you get the Ozonizer. Not sure how to add the GAC unit on the ASM G-1 protein skimmer. Any Thoughts?
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12/24/2009, 01:53 PM | #6 |
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I have heard mixed results of using carbon after the effluent. Some do, some don't. Some of the reading I do says that the carbon is spent after only a couple of hours and the fact that the output is so limited that you don;t need to worry about.
I guess that brings up another question. Who uses carbon with their unit? |
12/24/2009, 01:56 PM | #7 |
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Originally an Enally with an unknown airdrier (reactor with dessicant beads) through a Coralife Reactor, Controlled by a Milwaukee ORP Controller.
The Coralife unit sucked, poorly made and a royal PITA to maintain. Enally's seem to be prone to failure and their customer service sucks. The Milwaukee is still working great and I bought this used. My current setup is a modded China made O3 generator which has been in use for over a year and works flawless. I think it was $30 from E-bay. A modded Red Sea Berlin skimmer is now my reactor, and although the Milwaukee is working fine, I will be using an AC3 to control it soon. Both the water and airbased effluents are run through carbon. Likes, crystal clear water, a little less time between glass cleaning (less algea). I know there are more benefits to using it, but I'm no RHF, Boomer or the like, so I'll take their word on the chemical aspects of the benefits of O3 Dislikes, constantly having to clean the probe to get an accurate reading. not much of a dislike as it takes about 20 seconds to do it, but i find it's a daily chore. Recharging the dessicant beads! |
12/24/2009, 03:16 PM | #8 |
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Do you have a photo of your carbon set up?
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12/24/2009, 04:26 PM | #9 |
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12/24/2009, 04:43 PM | #10 |
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Yes, Psychographic
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12/24/2009, 05:06 PM | #11 |
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I'll try to get pics up later. Neither are very impressive, I originally ran the effluent water through a reactor made from a Fluidized Bed Filter when I used the Coralife O3 reactor, I found it created too much back pressure and greatly reduced the amount of bubbles produced in the O3 reactor. I wound up just using a juice container that I drilled a bunch of drainholes in the bottom and made a "spraybar" on the PVC inlet. It's not pretty, but it works.
I would like to give it another try with the Berlin I modded, but I can't find an O-ring that fits the cap. I might try a TLF Phosban Reactor. The Berlin seems to be much more forgiving as far as back pressure. The airborne effluent goes through a Crystal Light container with a single hole through the top that fits the airline and a bunch of holes in the bottom for drainage. |
12/24/2009, 06:24 PM | #12 |
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I run RedSea. No carbon on either air or water effluent. Probably should though.
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12/24/2009, 06:40 PM | #13 |
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Ozotech Poseidon Jr. with an air pump feeding into a tee on the air intake of one pump on my msx300. RKL for a controller. Have used a couple of reactors and a couple of different carbon effluent contraptions in the past, but now I just inject it into the skimmer and dont worry about it.
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12/24/2009, 06:42 PM | #14 |
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I like the ozotech equipment because they are well built and you will be hard pressed to find someone complaining about one of their units. The other mfg stuff looks/feels like a toy compared to Ozotech
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12/24/2009, 07:07 PM | #15 |
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I would go with the 360mg/hr Ultra Zone. A major benefit of this over the plasma arc type ozonizers like the Ozotech is that you have to change bulbs once every 2 years (continuous use) or so, but you don't have to recharge dessicant beads all the time. The Ultra Zone doesn't require dry air to work. It's bulb is rated for 18000 hours.
Odd thing is I have both, but used neither. I'm still in early setup phase, but will use the Ultra Zone. |
12/24/2009, 08:29 PM | #16 |
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Has anyone connected an air filter to a Life Reef Skimmer when using ozone?
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12/25/2009, 10:10 AM | #17 |
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I use an Enaly. Can't beat the price. Has been working great. I PM'ed several people about the unit prior to buying it. No one had a bad thing to say about it.
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12/25/2009, 10:16 AM | #18 |
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I have a Red Sea Aquazone that I bought for 350. it had a digital readout and controller built in. I use a 500 air dryer. with ozone reactor. it works perfect! very clear water!!
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12/25/2009, 10:57 AM | #19 |
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I have a Red Sea Aquazone plus 200. Its not currently hooked up but seemed to work well on my 480G when it was in use. Since switching to a fish only system it has been disconnected but I am thinking about hooking it up again.
I am surprised more people are not using the red sea units.. I had a box made that attaches to my sump via a bulk head.The box had carbon in it and the skimmer water would drain through the box and back into the sump. I also had dryer attached to the inlet between the air pump and red sea unit. The vent on the top of my old skimmer also had a some carbon filtration that I added to eliminate any ozone orders. |
12/25/2009, 05:56 PM | #20 |
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+1 Enaly. Love mine.
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12/25/2009, 07:10 PM | #21 |
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Is Enaly better than Ozotech?
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12/26/2009, 07:51 AM | #22 |
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Don't know if they are better, but they are good and incredibly cheap. I also like the integrated air pump. So many wires in an automated SPS setup, it is nice to get rid of another black box.
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12/26/2009, 08:26 AM | #23 |
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Before I set up my Enaly, I was using a Red Sea unit. I went through two of them and was never satisfied with it. The internal fuse kept popping and Tech support offered up no possible reasons for it. Haven't had any issues with the Enaly and it is hooked up the same way.
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12/26/2009, 08:48 AM | #24 |
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I couldn't find where the Enaly website said that the air pump is included in the unit.
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12/26/2009, 09:19 AM | #25 |
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I like the Ozotech units and use the Poseidon with a reactor on my large system and am quite pleased with the units operation. Made in America, Yreka CA, and beats anything I have seen from Sanders, Rea Sea, or Enaly in terms of quality, performance, or operation. Enaly is a Chinese manf. BTW and I really try to stay away from the far east imports anymore.
I use carbon on both water and air discharge back to my tank. Carbon lasts a long time in this role and does not need to be of a superior grade to get the results you want. (removal of OPO's) I love the increase in water clarity provided by ozone. Primary reason I use it. Film algae on the glass is also noticeably less when the unit is in operation. RHF has some really good articles on the use of ozone in reef tanks and I recommend taking the time to read all three. Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part I Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part II Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part III
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