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Old 01/07/2010, 04:57 PM   #1
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mocha clown?

My LFS had a few of these the other day, i think it was like 2 for 100$.

Anyone got any in their tank?

Is a 12g Nano suitable for 2?


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Old 01/07/2010, 07:20 PM   #2
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I got a pair about 3 weeks ago. They are pretty cool cause they are different. Thats what I paid for them.


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Old 01/07/2010, 07:25 PM   #3
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Mocha Clowns

Yes a pair could go in a 12 gal tank, if they are the only fish and you keep up with WC. I have the same tank and have two B/W clowns in the 12 gal nano with a brain coral and a couple of snails and hermit crabs, I can still add more LPS or soft corals but I am maxed out on fish.


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Old 01/08/2010, 09:50 AM   #4
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Mocha clown??? What the fornication is that?


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Old 01/08/2010, 10:39 AM   #5
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Ocellaris x percula most likely, aka chocolate clowns. Creativity is just killing me


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Old 01/08/2010, 10:52 AM   #6
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you guys mean darwins? ive never heard of choclate clowns or mocha clowns...


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Old 01/08/2010, 11:21 AM   #7
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you guys mean darwins? ive never heard of choclate clowns or mocha clowns...
dont ask me, i could barely find any pictures by searching google, but they were labeled as mocha clowns at my LFS, they have 4 of them.


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Old 01/08/2010, 11:30 AM   #8
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Maybe a saddle back with less barring?


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Old 01/08/2010, 11:31 AM   #9
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Ocellaris x percula most likely, aka chocolate clowns. Creativity is just killing me
Ive never seen an occy x perc hybrid that looked different than there parents. I would have a hard time telling they are even hybrids if it was not for the sticker on the tank.


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Old 01/08/2010, 11:50 AM   #10
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Black ocellaris x percula.


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Old 01/08/2010, 01:58 PM   #11
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pics?


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Old 01/08/2010, 02:29 PM   #12
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Black O x Reg O? or is that a Chocolate Clown?


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Old 01/08/2010, 03:24 PM   #13
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They are from Sea and Reef Aquaculture. Darwin (black ocellaris) X with regular Ocellaris.


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Old 01/08/2010, 06:07 PM   #14
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http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f6...cs-138106.html

go there, the only thing i could find that looks like them. there not really black, their mocha, like a coffee color almost.


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Old 01/08/2010, 10:13 PM   #15
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Ill take a picture of some tomorrow for you guys.


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That is not orange, or purple, or green, or gold..... It's brown...

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Old 01/08/2010, 10:19 PM   #16
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emu, those pics look like juvenile black and whites. I've seen them that color before, and when they 'grow up' they darken.

I could be wrong though. (Happens.. lol)


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Old 01/09/2010, 04:48 PM   #17
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here you guys go!





The same company also breeds a white percula similar to the ORA platinums. Here's a picture.

And a picture of the platinums for comparison.

and a few more of the mochas!


PS: these guys are definitely not just juvi blacks.


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Old 01/09/2010, 05:15 PM   #18
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those are black and whites. maybe mochas are the cross between a black/white ocell and a orange/white ocell = brown?


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Old 01/09/2010, 06:48 PM   #19
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those are black and whites. maybe mochas are the cross between a black/white ocell and a orange/white ocell = brown?
no they are not. They are mochas. And yes, it's a cross between a black and a normal ocell, as rubbagagow mentioned.


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Thanks for the pics.


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Old 01/09/2010, 10:02 PM   #21
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LOL, this cracks me up. we just had a huge discussion/argument about these and "maine blizzard clowns" on another site. if you search "maine blizzard clownfish" in google click on the first link that comes up to see the posts. its seems this guy soren who is in maine is breeding clowns. the name "mocha" and "maine blizzard clowns" also came up in this conversation. it finally just stopped because nobody could get a straight answer out of the guy, he had no facts that these NEW blizzards were actually this guy sorens own work or whether he was just coming up with a new name for clowns that already had been named. I am in no way saying this guy soren didn't come up with his own "white" clown through breeding but we could never get a straight answer...... google search "maine blizzard clown" its a pretty funny thread!


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Old 01/09/2010, 10:17 PM   #22
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look like regular black & whites that havnt compleatly developed to me. just saying


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Old 01/10/2010, 06:11 PM   #23
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Those of you that have the "mocha" clowns, can you tell me how old are the ones you have/have seen? And what color brown (light brown, almost black, etc.) are they? I have been raising the fry of my black ocellaris x orange ocellaris for the past few months, and I was wondering if they were going to be black, orange, some of each, or a brown or rusty color. They aren't mature enough yet for me to tell how they'll turn out and I'm really curious. I'm also curious about the genetics - which genes are dominant, which are recessive, etc. Does anyone know where I can get more info on the genetics?


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Old 03/03/2011, 10:17 PM   #24
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For some reason I seem to like these more than the Platinums. I don't like the black and whites neither. I guess I'll settle for in between. lolz


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Old 03/04/2011, 09:46 AM   #25
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I've got a clown thats 1/2 Snowflake Oci and 1/2 Darwin Oci being called a S'more. It's got alot of black in it but it's no where near as dark as the clowns you've got.


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