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Unread 01/22/2010, 06:07 PM   #1
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Phosphate remover

It's time to buy some new phosphate remover. Whats the best? I've used Warner Marine PHOSaR in the past and it worked well. But I'm willing to try something new.

How is Bulk Reef Supplys GFO? It's certainly cheaper.


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Unread 01/22/2010, 06:14 PM   #2
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IMO, you can't beat BRS for price or service. get your carbon there too.


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Unread 01/22/2010, 06:47 PM   #3
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Unread 01/22/2010, 08:17 PM   #4
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They are all the same the only difference is price.


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Unread 01/22/2010, 08:41 PM   #5
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What is BRS??


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Unread 01/22/2010, 08:42 PM   #6
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Unread 01/22/2010, 08:46 PM   #7
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imo, you can't beat brs for price or service. Get your carbon there too.
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Unread 01/23/2010, 11:41 AM   #9
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Thanks for the replies. Whats better granules or pellets?


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Unread 01/23/2010, 11:42 AM   #10
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I'll be using it in a TLF reactor.


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Unread 01/23/2010, 03:33 PM   #11
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Thanks for the replies. Whats better granules or pellets?
Pellets are better, they are harder than granules and they contain less dust.


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I have tried almost every GFO out there at 1 point or another. I found BRS HC to be the best out of the other common types. And by a wide margin. But I have never tried there regular GFO. Once I tried the HC I saw no reason to stop using it.


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Unread 01/23/2010, 06:29 PM   #13
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Thanks for the replies. Whats better granules or pellets?
I like the basic granules because I feel it tumbles better in the reactor.


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Unread 01/23/2010, 06:44 PM   #14
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It's time to buy some new phosphate remover. Whats the best? I've used Warner Marine PHOSaR in the past and it worked well. But I'm willing to try something new.

How is Bulk Reef Supplys GFO? It's certainly cheaper.
Phosar= BRS pellets= Bayoxide® E33P
Phosar HC= BRS HC= Bayoxide® E33HC
SmartReef RemPhos=BRS granules= Bayoxide® E33

if you want something "different" try one of the hydrated ferric hydroxides (pura phoslock, rowaphos, kent power phos). they ALL claim to outperform the dry medias. Mangrove Pura Phoslock in particular makes a bold claim right on their website: "Recently appearing on the pet markets granulated and palletized medias based on Bayoxide E33 product are about 14% less effective in removing phosphate and release 270 mg of iron per gram of media – that is staggering 13500 times more than PhosLock." On Kents Power Phos bottle: " More effective than similar products sold in dry form" and well all know RowaPhos claims to outperform all other phosphate removal medias or at least use to.

While I cant verify any claims its hard to believe all three would boldly claim to be superior without any supporting data of the hydrated medias having some form of quantifiable advantage (that combined with I never really see the dry GFO's making these claims beyond hydrodynamics of pelletized form opposed to actual absorbtion ability). I said "different" because I've used all forms except pelletized (dont see any advantage using pelletized in a reactor) and havent seen any performance differences. some are dustier (all hydrated ones which seems odd), some break up easier when tumbled (phosban), some less uniform in granules size (kent powerphos) but on the hobbiest level I dont think you can tell any performance difference from one to the next and if you could nothing adding a little more of the inferior media wont equalize.



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I have tried almost every GFO out there at 1 point or another. I found BRS HC to be the best out of the other common types. And by a wide margin. But I have never tried there regular GFO. Once I tried the HC I saw no reason to stop using it.
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Unread 01/24/2010, 07:43 AM   #16
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Can I use any of this products on a canister or hang filter (Penguin)??

I don't have any reactor on my reef tank or filter sock (no sump installed).


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