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Old 03/25/2010, 05:31 PM   #151
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Yer I would like to try it, but knowhere local sells it and not paying $85 for salt and $85 for shipping


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Old 03/25/2010, 05:44 PM   #152
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Thinking u need to get setup with TM LOL...


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Old 03/25/2010, 06:24 PM   #153
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Phew not another line!

Just signed to North American distribution of Bubble Magus and canada ProdiBio, any more I think will need staff


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Old 03/25/2010, 08:28 PM   #154
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I often get that same annoying precipitate when I use Instant Ocean salt (any variety). I am not sure if its silt from the manufacturing process or simply some strange Ca/Alk precipitation problem but I get it quite regularly and requires semi-regular scrubbing of my salt water making resevoir.

From my own observations, I find that this tends to occur much, much more frequently under higher Alk conditions. I mixed a batch of salt water from my well water once and it created a layer of that crud around the entire surface and sides of my 50 gallon drum.

No salt mix is perfect, in fact you'll probably find someone for every brand of mainstream salt out there that has had a problem with a bad batch.

That being said, nice tank build! Can't wait to see your progress


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Old 03/25/2010, 09:24 PM   #155
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I have had similar experience with D&D H2O Pro salt mix. The residue is brown like mud.


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Old 03/26/2010, 07:17 AM   #156
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Nano - If you are looking for FM stuff let me know I can ship today everything other than the LPS food and coral cleaner is in stock


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Old 03/27/2010, 03:37 PM   #157
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So the big switch over

I am now dosing ProdiBio instead of FM. We all know what FM does but ProdiBio really is the unsung hero out there for low nutrient dosing and coral husbandry.

My levels already can be classed as pretty much devoid of nutrients, PO4 non existant, Nitrate needing reading glasses and good light to see anything that resembles colour, so this is more now going to show how well Prodi maintains where FM left off.

I am using the Reef Booster kit and have added all the elements, if anyone wants further info on this the prodiBio review will be on my blog.

I will just give you my thoughts on the product though.

PBio is for those who hate daily dosing and do not wish to run a Lith reactor, it does everythign a Zeo system will do but with far less regime and stress, this is due to the way the ingredients are presented to the tank with elements to feed themselves in the 15 day bio cycle.

I will report back in 7 days of how things are looking but please follow my proper review on my RC blog.


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Old 03/27/2010, 04:37 PM   #158
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Waheyy

In two hours since adding prodi my redox went up from 385 to 415!!! skimmer going nuts.

Monti bursting with polyps and not even added the amino's yet until tonight as directed.


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Old 03/27/2010, 07:46 PM   #159
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nice build ... have similar tank only 30" cube. I do have a comment and a question.

I am now using Red Sea Pro and recommend it. It is dried from real sea water in Israel ... just like another much more expensive brand.

Question is ... how thick is the glass on your baby, where any tempered?

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Old 03/28/2010, 06:27 AM   #160
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1/2 inch star fire all 4 sides. Not sure if tempered, but as the tank is a Miracles tank, if it needed it then it would have it


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Old 03/28/2010, 05:42 PM   #161
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I'm interested in ProdiBio, what would your dosing schedule look like? I'm really looking for something to replace my MB7/Vodka dosing, FM was on my next list, but if ya got something to share please do, I'm also not looking into running a zeolite/lith reactor..


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Old 03/28/2010, 07:17 PM   #162
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Well ProdiBio is a lot less time consuming and equipment hungry. Its biggest asset is in the fact you only dose a maximum once every 15 days, and the amino coral food every week 9depending on your system)

I will do a full review on my blog here shortly and post a link when done.


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Old 03/28/2010, 07:22 PM   #163
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Here you go

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Old 03/28/2010, 10:48 PM   #164
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Michael,

Where did you get your probe holder? Very nice and clean.

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Old 03/29/2010, 06:33 AM   #165
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I made it for Michael, it's custom :P


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Old 03/30/2010, 06:23 PM   #166
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So long time coming an update

Tank now been running a month, live for 3 weeks.

parameters

NO2 =0
NO3 = .01 to.02 depending on how tired my eyes are
PO4 = 0
Ca = 440
DKH = 8
Mg = 1390
Salinity 34PPT
temp = 28
Redox mV = 423mV
pH = 8.01

The tank is doing really well i have not had to scrape the glass once for algea, bio bloom white film yes, but not algea. i am now running ProdiBio for 5 days and the corals are loving it. I would say there is no difference as yet I can report from FM to prodi both are equally good at nutrient reduction, I am sort of caught in the middle which way to go, but as i do not have room for a reactor I am sticking with prodi for 3 months at least and then will decide. there is also room to think about mixing and matching products but my tank is way to young to start any fancy reviews like that.

Ok back to the tank.

I got some awesome corals from ottawa inverts, I am lucky to share the same town as pat so have easy access to his huge coral racks. Pat you need a store front !!!

Pictures - As you will see below much to many peoples delight the Ai lamp hangers are finished.





I hope this now meets with everyones approval

Here are some tank shots, I apologise now for the quality I am no good at photography at all, but i think you get a good idea how things are coming along.











I will continue with the profiLux tutorial/review later this week.


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Old 03/31/2010, 08:17 AM   #167
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lighting setup is much better, good job


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Old 04/05/2010, 05:52 PM   #168
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Little update for you

All params are at ultra low nutrient, in hindsight this is not always a wonderful thing as you will see I have a suspected Bio Bloom, the upside is the corals are thriving, and my center piece powder blue acro colony is settling in well.

I say bio bloom, it has not been proved, but other than calcium precipitation there is little else the slight cloudy look could be, so its time to sit back enjoy and give it 14 days and then see.

Interestingly my redox is a whopping 474mV !! A sign of the low nutrients.







The profiLux of course is rock solid, it actually has become a huge value having the full set up so I can do much better live support and test things out myself before providing support.

More later this week.

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Old 04/09/2010, 09:52 AM   #169
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looking great! The water doesn't look bad. It may be a slight bacterial bloom but if you water doesn't smell when the pumps are shut off then I doubt it. You say your perams are fine so it's most likely just the good bac still creating a balance from the new coral additions.

Love the AI's

I'm running LNS as well (Zeovit) and love it.
a few pics of my humble little system






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Looking great

Yep was bio bloom, got rid of it with UV for 4 hours, now sparkling. Too much early bio dosing at the start. I have stopped everything for now and letting the tank settle.


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Old 04/09/2010, 11:00 AM   #171
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Thanks,

You're using prodibio-correct?

If so, I've read in the zeo forums that the primary moderator had used prodibio in conjunction with the Zeostart supplement and had excellent results in maintaining color and PO4/NO3 reduction. The Zeostart is one of the supplements I add every other day for bacterial facilitation and PO4/NO3 control.

I notice you are running a TLF reactor. Are you using GFO? With Zeo, I had to shelve my reactor because GFO is not recommended. The zeolites are the primary exporter and the bacterial mulm consumes the PO4 and NO3.

Keep the updates coming-Nice job!

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Old 04/09/2010, 11:10 AM   #172
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Running prodi and Fauna marin, FM is a lot more compensating than zeo so my clients find and inform me.

At present due to the bio bloom and major low nutrients the tank is running on its own for the next 6 week.

No i am not running GFO its got PO4 free carbon in it

Both FM and prodi are great products but I think there is a clear seperation in their uses, FM for sure is the all out ULNS for the big tanks that require daily dosing and fine tuning, Prodi is more dose and forget but lacks the fine tuning abilities, however I will be attempting to show how the two will work together just as you mention in regards to Zeo and Prodi.

With us supporting both lines now it really gives huge consumer choice and our tank is your test bed


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Old 04/09/2010, 11:16 AM   #173
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To follow on from this - If i am not mistaken? Zeo start is the bacterial element so the matching product would be FM ultra Bio. I would assume in this case your mod is using zeostart and BioPtim as the food source.

this is the same as using FM ultra Bio and ProdiBio BioPtim. From my limted tests so far this would not be my personal choice of mixing the two products.

if you are going to mix them do not mix the bacterial elements. either do

BioDigest
BioPtim
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Ultra Bio
Ultra bak

I would suggest (I wait to be corrected as still learning) that if you want a less time consuming dosing regime you would use Bio Digest and BioPtim as your carbon source and then FM amino's and trace elements for nutrition colour and growth.

I do look forward when i have a stable system to try this out and learn (maybe by mistakes) what really does work together. But for now the tank has to mature.


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The ZeoStart is the Carbon source for the bacteria in zeovit and the zeobac is the bacterial element. Similar principals. I used the zeofood at start up but now use the cv amino supplements as the food source for the bacteria and corals.

It's apparent that these systems (prodibioare/FM/Zeovit) are all proving great results!

Happy Reefing!

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Old 04/09/2010, 02:19 PM   #175
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coming to a tank near me soon



Courtesy of Ottawa Inverts

A few nice encrusting monti's also and a birdsnest

Updates on Monday

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We have huge shipments of BM's coming in for all our dealers next week, as a company we are working closely with BM to settle the NA market, within 2 months you should see a dedicated forum on RC for the range

My BM150Pro is awesome it pulls gunk even when there is nothing you would think to pull!


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