Pink Yuma fragging...tougher to do than the scolys.

fishez4alivin · 03/08/2010, 01:19 AM

Ive had this pink yuma for over 18 months, it is the last of maybe 8 high end, high dollar yumas I bought a few years ago. Unfortunately, 7 melted, although one left a baby, that has gotten to adult size. Because I could only find threads with either failure or no updates, I am going to document this until they die or fully recover....

In all it's glory

Operating table with fresh blade on scalpel...notice empty glass of Crown Royal

Waiting for the cut..the next two pics are a lil blurry since I was probably shaking..

Quick cut from mouth out, done twice, notice all the water that was dumped from the cut

In the Lugols bath, used a pipette to blow any slime off

Very little slime, and no visible guts expelled

An hour after the fragging, and looking pretty good

teebs · 03/08/2010, 02:07 AM

Very interesting. Would like to see how long the Yuma will take to recover completely. Thinking of trying this out on my Yumas also.

dendronepthya · 03/08/2010, 07:15 AM

Good luck! I've never had much success with those yumas. They slowly shrink and die on me.

5h3rW1N · 03/08/2010, 09:50 AM

good luck!! would like too see how they are in a week thanks for sharing.

ctxmonitor · 03/08/2010, 12:46 PM

Yup, keep us posted.. Cool procedure, haha.. Never frag yuma b4.. thought they just grow baby on its own, lol..

austinh · 03/08/2010, 06:20 PM

hope all goes well for you ive had success fragging one but it kinda scared me because it took like a month before it finally didnt look like a pie with a piece cut out but they are both still doing fine to this day

Plankt0s · 03/08/2010, 09:23 PM

I have a few that I have been waiting on. Thanks for this... Hope this thread doesn't die off like so many others.

fishez4alivin · 03/08/2010, 11:00 PM

Here they are at Day 2, they looked better when I first cut them, then they do now, although, it looks like they have begun to form a circle. I just cant be sure, since I don't want to disturb them at all. I am also wondering if I should maybe shade them a little. They are on the outside edge of my 10x39W Powermodule, Im sure the PAR levels are low since its not directly under the light. I know I should keep them in low flow, but how about light?

fishez4alivin · 03/09/2010, 07:12 PM

Some pellet food got into the container, and sure enough I saw one of them turn his mouth to reach for it...yuma on the right, look for the little 1/2 green mouth, see it turned down to reach for the food...I think that's a decent sign. I changed out the rubble fort CaRx media, that had been soaking for 6 months. lol

Plankt0s · 03/10/2010, 09:55 PM

Thanks for the update.

fishez4alivin · 03/11/2010, 01:28 AM

I ended up moving my frags to my sump, the display tank has too much flow, and even when I placed screen over the box, it seemed like too much light from my PM.

I even changed out the rubble, for CARx media, hoping the smaller size will prevent the Yumas from falling between the gaps and possibly damaging them.

firsttank · 03/11/2010, 06:21 AM

going to tag along..good luck, I hope they do well for you.

Reef obcession · 03/11/2010, 07:27 AM

great job, and I will mimic this on my Yumas.

fishez4alivin · 03/12/2010, 02:33 AM

Another update, I just dumped the container into the sump, so they are a little shriveled up, but still a lot better than a couple days ago. Seems like in my system, the slow flow in the sump and a very short light cycle is what they like best. Time will tell.

mrbigshot · 03/15/2010, 09:02 AM

interesting, yuma's are a high light creature but i suppose after being fraged that may change.

puntific · 03/15/2010, 07:29 PM

I've had tons of success fragging the standard Red/Orange Yuma. Total slice and dice with nearly no losses (only the behind the rock kind...) I've also fragged my Neon Yellow Yuma into 4ths. All four lived. I hope you have equal success!

puntific

fishez4alivin · 03/19/2010, 02:50 AM

It's looking pretty good now, I see they have become round again.

I'm hoping to have success like you puntific, I've had this Yuma for a while, a lot longer than any other Grade A color. It can live in both super clean skimmed SPS tank as well as a skimmerless, temp crazy nano. Hope to see them heal, then try it again.

TiTAN · 03/19/2010, 06:50 AM

Good to hear, hope you can continue to frag them after the heal.

enduserferg · 03/19/2010, 08:11 AM

Nice thread, happy to see they are recovering well ! =)

ceemonkey · 03/19/2010, 02:08 PM

They had two mouths right? Or 1 mouth that you sliced through the middle? Did you cut the yuma off the Live Rock before fragging it? Would like to frag mine, but they only have 1 mouth, and are attached to my LR, so I'd have to cut it off, then cut in half.

fishez4alivin · 03/20/2010, 12:49 AM

It was removed from it's rock. I started the cut from the mouth, and cut out, then did it again. That way I made sure I got part of the mouth on both pieces.

jbrown11352 · 03/20/2010, 02:01 PM

Keep us posted, I may try this with mine.

fishez4alivin · 03/26/2010, 06:45 PM

Twenty days and the yumas are fully inflated and looking really good, It may be time to glue them to a rock, and place them in the display.

jbrown11352 · 03/26/2010, 09:18 PM

Cut and repeat, cut and repeat

Spssteven · 03/26/2010, 10:24 PM

I did this with some of mine before,works good.
And yes cut and repeat.

03/08/2010, 01:19 AM	#1
fishez4alivin Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 301	Pink Yuma fragging...tougher to do than the scolys. Ive had this pink yuma for over 18 months, it is the last of maybe 8 high end, high dollar yumas I bought a few years ago. Unfortunately, 7 melted, although one left a baby, that has gotten to adult size. Because I could only find threads with either failure or no updates, I am going to document this until they die or fully recover.... In all it's glory Operating table with fresh blade on scalpel...notice empty glass of Crown Royal Waiting for the cut..the next two pics are a lil blurry since I was probably shaking.. Quick cut from mouth out, done twice, notice all the water that was dumped from the cut In the Lugols bath, used a pipette to blow any slime off Very little slime, and no visible guts expelled An hour after the fragging, and looking pretty good

03/08/2010, 02:07 AM	#2
teebs Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 139	Very interesting. Would like to see how long the Yuma will take to recover completely. Thinking of trying this out on my Yumas also. __________________ My Setup: 3x2x2 tank with IOS Equipment List: Chiller: Artica 1/5HP Chiller Pump: Sicce 4000 Return Pump: OR3500 Skimmer: Deltec APF600 Wavemaker: Tunze Wavebox/2x Hydor K2/SCWD wavemaker Lights: DElighting 2x150W MH + 2x 39W T5 Atinic Filter: Weipro Cannister Filter FE-8039 filled with Aquamedic Carbon and Phos Fe FR: Skimz (getting in Dec, running Aquamedic Carbon + Phos Fe) FR Pump: Atman AT-104 Tubby ATO, Kalkweisser Reactor with magnetic stirrer. Current Tank Info: 3x2x2 LPS tank & 2x1x1 fowlr

03/08/2010, 07:15 AM	#3
dendronepthya Premium Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Akron, OH, USA Posts: 3,762	Good luck! I've never had much success with those yumas. They slowly shrink and die on me. __________________ - Than (dendro) Current Tank Info: 5000-gallon greenhouse system

03/08/2010, 09:23 PM	#7
Plankt0s Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Formerly Krypton Posts: 823	I have a few that I have been waiting on. Thanks for this... Hope this thread doesn't die off like so many others. __________________ Doing my part by building 6-7 new inland reefs a month (and growing).

03/10/2010, 09:55 PM	#10
Plankt0s Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Formerly Krypton Posts: 823	Thanks for the update. __________________ Doing my part by building 6-7 new inland reefs a month (and growing).

03/08/2010, 09:50 AM	#4
5h3rW1N Moved On Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 885	good luck!! would like too see how they are in a week thanks for sharing.

03/08/2010, 12:46 PM	#5
ctxmonitor Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 450	Yup, keep us posted.. Cool procedure, haha.. Never frag yuma b4.. thought they just grow baby on its own, lol..

03/08/2010, 06:20 PM	#6
austinh Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nc Posts: 141	hope all goes well for you ive had success fragging one but it kinda scared me because it took like a month before it finally didnt look like a pie with a piece cut out but they are both still doing fine to this day

03/08/2010, 11:00 PM	#8
fishez4alivin Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 301	Here they are at Day 2, they looked better when I first cut them, then they do now, although, it looks like they have begun to form a circle. I just cant be sure, since I don't want to disturb them at all. I am also wondering if I should maybe shade them a little. They are on the outside edge of my 10x39W Powermodule, Im sure the PAR levels are low since its not directly under the light. I know I should keep them in low flow, but how about light?

03/09/2010, 07:12 PM	#9
fishez4alivin Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 301	Some pellet food got into the container, and sure enough I saw one of them turn his mouth to reach for it...yuma on the right, look for the little 1/2 green mouth, see it turned down to reach for the food...I think that's a decent sign. I changed out the rubble fort CaRx media, that had been soaking for 6 months. lol

03/11/2010, 01:28 AM	#11
fishez4alivin Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 301	I ended up moving my frags to my sump, the display tank has too much flow, and even when I placed screen over the box, it seemed like too much light from my PM. I even changed out the rubble, for CARx media, hoping the smaller size will prevent the Yumas from falling between the gaps and possibly damaging them. __________________ AGE 40x28x22 tank, custom sump,Sfiligio 2x400W/2x24" Reefbrite blue, MP60wES MP40wES, ATB Elegance Pro 200, AquaCare Turbo Kalk reactor

03/11/2010, 06:21 AM	#12
firsttank Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: detroit Posts: 231	going to tag along..good luck, I hope they do well for you.

03/11/2010, 07:27 AM	#13
Reef obcession Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: stamford, Ct Posts: 266	great job, and I will mimic this on my Yumas.

03/12/2010, 02:33 AM	#14
fishez4alivin Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 301	Another update, I just dumped the container into the sump, so they are a little shriveled up, but still a lot better than a couple days ago. Seems like in my system, the slow flow in the sump and a very short light cycle is what they like best. Time will tell. __________________ AGE 40x28x22 tank, custom sump,Sfiligio 2x400W/2x24" Reefbrite blue, MP60wES MP40wES, ATB Elegance Pro 200, AquaCare Turbo Kalk reactor

03/15/2010, 09:02 AM	#15
mrbigshot Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: mn Posts: 387	interesting, yuma's are a high light creature but i suppose after being fraged that may change.

03/15/2010, 07:29 PM	#16
puntific Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Portland OR Posts: 68	I've had tons of success fragging the standard Red/Orange Yuma. Total slice and dice with nearly no losses (only the behind the rock kind...) I've also fragged my Neon Yellow Yuma into 4ths. All four lived. I hope you have equal success! puntific __________________ 100 gal reef system w/ 20 gal refugium and 10 gal sump. 400W MH 20,000K + 105 w VHOs 150 lbs live rock, live sand in tank and refugium, filter bag, precision marine protein skimmer, CA reactor. Current Tank Info: 100g w/ 20g Refug. & 10g sump. Rock and Sand.

03/19/2010, 02:50 AM	#17
fishez4alivin Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 301	It's looking pretty good now, I see they have become round again. I'm hoping to have success like you puntific, I've had this Yuma for a while, a lot longer than any other Grade A color. It can live in both super clean skimmed SPS tank as well as a skimmerless, temp crazy nano. Hope to see them heal, then try it again. __________________ AGE 40x28x22 tank, custom sump,Sfiligio 2x400W/2x24" Reefbrite blue, MP60wES MP40wES, ATB Elegance Pro 200, AquaCare Turbo Kalk reactor

03/19/2010, 06:50 AM	#18
TiTAN Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Kildare, Ireland Posts: 260	Good to hear, hope you can continue to frag them after the heal.

03/19/2010, 08:11 AM	#19
enduserferg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 55	Nice thread, happy to see they are recovering well ! =)

03/19/2010, 02:08 PM	#20
ceemonkey Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Camarillo, California Posts: 87	They had two mouths right? Or 1 mouth that you sliced through the middle? Did you cut the yuma off the Live Rock before fragging it? Would like to frag mine, but they only have 1 mouth, and are attached to my LR, so I'd have to cut it off, then cut in half. __________________ I'm so addicted Current Tank Info: 150g Reef with 100g Sump. Vortech MP40w's and Dart return. 4 bulb T5 lighting

03/20/2010, 12:49 AM	#21
fishez4alivin Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 301	It was removed from it's rock. I started the cut from the mouth, and cut out, then did it again. That way I made sure I got part of the mouth on both pieces. __________________ AGE 40x28x22 tank, custom sump,Sfiligio 2x400W/2x24" Reefbrite blue, MP60wES MP40wES, ATB Elegance Pro 200, AquaCare Turbo Kalk reactor

03/20/2010, 02:01 PM	#22
jbrown11352 Moved On Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canyon Lake ,Ca Posts: 1,171	Keep us posted, I may try this with mine.

03/26/2010, 06:45 PM	#23
fishez4alivin Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 301	Twenty days and the yumas are fully inflated and looking really good, It may be time to glue them to a rock, and place them in the display. __________________ AGE 40x28x22 tank, custom sump,Sfiligio 2x400W/2x24" Reefbrite blue, MP60wES MP40wES, ATB Elegance Pro 200, AquaCare Turbo Kalk reactor

03/26/2010, 09:18 PM	#24
jbrown11352 Moved On Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canyon Lake ,Ca Posts: 1,171	Cut and repeat, cut and repeat

03/26/2010, 10:24 PM	#25
Spssteven SCRK member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Huntington beach ca Posts: 3,071	I did this with some of mine before,works good. And yes cut and repeat. __________________ SCRK member 2x2x1 rimless diamond edge starfire prop tank 24 tall 24 deep 32 long Wanting to get my new tank and new LEDs going