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Old 04/27/2010, 10:04 AM   #1
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Question Seachem's new salt, Salinity?

Has anyone tried the new seachem salt called salinity?

I was at my lfs when they just got it in and they were telling me how superior it was over the other brands. From what they were telling me it is not allowed to be sold online but only through trained LFS's who have been to the Seachem HQ in Atlanta, GA and they must attend a 4 day training course to now become a Seachem 'Aqua Vitro' dealer.

The salt is $99 for a larger pail than the others and it will mix 225g at 1.026 SG now i was unaware that most other reef salts state that there recommended mix was at a much lower SG than a reef tank should be kept (1.021-1.023) so i guess it makes some comeback on value that way but its still $99.

So has anyone herd of it or used it?




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Old 04/27/2010, 10:47 AM   #2
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It better be good at that price.


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Old 04/27/2010, 12:44 PM   #3
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Never heard of it and do not think it will last in main stream. This hobby is expensive enough. I think the salt prices now are just on the verge. Also, seeing how IO gets the job done, one would be hard pressed to spend $99 a bucket. Then again, i really have not done the match either.


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Old 04/27/2010, 12:56 PM   #4
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Wow, this salt sounds like some good stuff, My problem is I only have a 12g tank right now....would take me FOREVER to use that.....But its tempting...Anyone know a place in Illinois that carries this stuff?

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Old 04/27/2010, 01:25 PM   #5
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I refuse to buy any item that I cannot purchase on-line directly from the source as an alternative or from other online sources. The 4 day training sounds like a gimmick.


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Old 04/27/2010, 01:44 PM   #6
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I refuse to buy any item that I cannot purchase on-line directly from the source as an alternative or from other online sources. The 4 day training sounds like a gimmick.
Nope no gimmick. Its all to do with Seachem's new Aqua Vitro line which they refuse to let sell online as they want the sellers to be educated so that they can pass on the advice to the consumer. I know how much this stuff costs wholesale and it has very little markup. All other salts have much bigger profit margins.

By no means am I saying that it is fantastic and everyone should buy it but what I am saying is i think this stuff could be pretty good and for the extra money it could be that much better so that it could save you money.

For now I do not know enough about it to say but at my LFS they are excited about it and they are doing there own tests on it on there 155g bow front to see how it goes down.

I really dont know how you would find who stocks it but I guess Seachem will have their dealers on there website. I do know of another LFS which will be stocking it but for $129 in FL.


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Never heard of it and do not think it will last in main stream. This hobby is expensive enough. I think the salt prices now are just on the verge. Also, seeing how IO gets the job done, one would be hard pressed to spend $99 a bucket. Then again, i really have not done the match either.
I do know the comment the original poster made about IO and others mixing to lower salinity is true. I always do 36 gallon WC's on my sytem and I do not even measure anymore. A 50 gallon bag mixes out @ 1.026 in my 36 gallons.
(I buy the 200 gallon boxes with four 50 gallon bags)


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Old 04/27/2010, 01:54 PM   #8
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I do know the comment the original poster made about IO and others mixing to lower salinity is true. I always do 36 gallon WC's on my sytem and I do not even measure anymore. A 50 gallon bag mixes out @ 1.026 in my 36 gallons.
(I buy the 200 gallon boxes with four 50 gallon bags)
I guess this is where they say it has better value than other salts and how it can justify it's price.

I should be able to get hold of Seachem's training media and hopefully get some more info on this stuff (Very friendly with my LFS staff incase you were wondering how i know about it)

How about Aqua Vitro? anyone else have good results with this? My LFS gave me some samples and from my short time using I am seeing good results but too early to tell.


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Old 04/27/2010, 02:01 PM   #9
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here is a link to Seachem's page on Salinity;

http://www.aquavitro.com/Products/salinity.html


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I want the whole aquavitro line (minus the salt) at a club meeting. I use the Balance and liked it so much that I bought more of it on-line (don't tell anyone and don't ask me about my source). I've been tempted to give the salt a try as my LFS sells it for $99. Tropic Marin's new Bio-Actif salt is around the same price but for 160g. I tried a bucket and really liked it. Saving up for another bucket. While saving up, I'm picking up 25G bags of I/O.


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Old 04/27/2010, 05:36 PM   #11
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I have Salinity and started using it on my brand new tank --- So far I think its great ... Then again im still cycling haha


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Old 04/27/2010, 05:39 PM   #12
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I have Salinity and started using it on my brand new tank --- So far I think its great ... Then again im still cycling haha
Ok cool well let us know how you get on with it!


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Old 04/27/2010, 07:08 PM   #13
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And if that's true, the LFS employees nor the seachem rep could tell me how much salinity it takes to turn 1 gal of RO/DI water into 1.026 this weekend at the LFS's annual sale! It was on sale for $75/bucket too.

I use Reef Salt too! It'll be on sale online if they want to sell more of it.


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Old 04/28/2010, 08:18 AM   #14
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What makes it 'better'?
Very curious to see if they got it to work as intended
(http://www.seachem-labs.org/support/...ead.php?p=7767)



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Old 04/28/2010, 09:17 AM   #15
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I just started using this salt. So far the only problem I have with it is that it does take a Lil longer to mix.
Since I started using it so far I haven't needed to dose anything in my tank.


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Old 04/28/2010, 09:54 AM   #16
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If it actually mixes to 1.026, it compares quite readily to the more premium salts price-wise, with the conversion to lower salinity, but is still a fair bit more expensive than IO. The problem is, that the average reefer doesn't even realize that most salt is spec'd to mix at a lower salinity to achieve the gallonage, so I think their price point will make it a difficult sale unless they can get the LFS on board en masse. People tend to just see the big print.


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Well what I realized was that you get more gallons made with this new salt. Then the money you spend
to dose your tank like CA, Mag, and stuff you save because so far I haven't needed to dose anything.


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Old 04/28/2010, 10:38 PM   #18
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There is a thread about salts in the chemistry forum, check it out.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...589326&page=41


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I saw this for sale in a local LFS for $120 australian, but there is no way i can justify that price without hearing some dam good results, as i use seachems reefsalts ATM, and even with the salinity difference reef salt works out a hell of a lot cheaper.


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99 bucks? Wow. Our sponsors around our area sell it for 65 bucks a bucket. I will be giving it a chance next go round.


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99 bucks? Wow. Our sponsors around our area sell it for 65 bucks a bucket. I will be giving it a chance next go round.
Ah now that's because you live in Seachem territory! We have to add delivery charges to the LFS and such so bumps it up a bit.


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Ah now that's because you live in Seachem territory! We have to add delivery charges to the LFS and such so bumps it up a bit.
I didn't even take that into consideration. Many members of ARC use it, and swear by it.


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I didn't even take that into consideration. Many members of ARC use it, and swear by it.
I thought that's not right! That's less than my LFS pays for it trade. It will be interesting to see how this stuff preforms as I think if it gets the results its saying it does then I think I will be using it. From the other thread it seems its difficult to mix.

I will be talking to a Seachem rep today at the LFS so I will try to get some more info on why this is.


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I was going to either buy the Salinity or the Tropic Marin Bio-Actif which I had tried before and really liked. Then I ran into a sale on IO and just bought 1000g of IO for $194 out the door. I just couldn't pass that up!


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Nope no gimmick. Its all to do with Seachem's new Aqua Vitro line which they refuse to let sell online as they want the sellers to be educated so that they can pass on the advice to the consumer. I know how much this stuff costs wholesale and it has very little markup. All other salts have much bigger profit margins.

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I really dont know how you would find who stocks it but I guess Seachem will have their dealers on there website. I do know of another LFS which will be stocking it but for $129 in FL.
Well I paid $69.00 a bucket so there is a nice markup......


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