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Old 05/21/2010, 11:22 AM   #1
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Future Hanna Testers

Hello,

Curious with the new products that Hanna has introduced recently, if there are plans for a digital tester/checker for ALK, CA, and No3 for use in seawater?

Thanks in advance for any insight.

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Old 05/24/2010, 03:09 PM   #2
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Message from Hanna's president

Hello and thank you to all Reef Central members.

This forum has served as a valuable tool for us to listen and learn directly from you. As president, I believe it is imperative for us to stay directly connected to what our customers expect from our products.

We have received questions and helpful feedback on some additional parameters for aquarium testing. I thought this would be a great opportunity to update you on our future developments.

We are currently in the final stages of completing an expansion of the Hanna Checker family of products that will measure:


* Alkalinity
* Calcium
* Nitrate


The goal is to have these solutions available by July. We are also looking at a secondary phase after the completion of these three parameters.

Thank you again for your feedback. I want to make myself available on questions and suggestions.

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Old 05/24/2010, 05:31 PM   #3
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This is fantastic news! Thank you for the update. Put me down for a pre-order for one of each.


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Old 05/25/2010, 02:16 AM   #4
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Phosphate- check
Nitrite - check
Alkalinity, calcium, nitrate - July
Magnesium, salinity, ammonia..........???
Carrying case to carry all the checker..........???


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Old 05/25/2010, 11:54 AM   #5
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I am.

Ammonia: we may have a unit available to you by June/July.

Magnesium and Salinity are more of a challenge, but we are working on them. At this stage, I cannot promise a date.

I am curious as to why you would need a carrying case for the Checkers. Do you carry them around, or is it only to keep them neatly organized?

Thanks for the feedback.

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Old 05/25/2010, 06:48 PM   #6
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For me - the case would be to protect them, and keep them dry. Pump rooms often have some humidity, and the opportunity for something to get damaged from an accidental drop to the floor.

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Old 05/26/2010, 02:12 AM   #7
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Yes, the case would be used to house and protect the checker. It also used as a carrying case when it is needed to be used away from the owner tank for example while having to help a friend set up a new saltwater tank. I myself have 2 understudy ( newbie ) who I am currently assisting in their hobby. A carrying case complete with all the checker would help me greatly in transporting the checker and it looks more professional too, with the company name on the case. When they are familiar with the use of the checker, they could purchase their own set.

Would it be possible to have a checker for ph?

Phosphate- check
Nitrite - check
Alkalinity, calcium, nitrate - July
Magnesium, salinity, ammonia..........???
ph..........???
Carrying case to carry all the checker..........???

You might bundle these as a package as well as some accessories like a sample cup/beaker, a pipette thingy ( whether the ones used by laboratory technician [ highly desirable ] or plastic disposable ) and a clipboard, all with your company name emblazoned on the item. Your research crew could produce a downloadable pdf formats of charts of all 9 parameter for daily/weekly/monthly data entry all in 1 A4 size paper format, all with your company logo too.

Also, I am wondering why the color green is chosen for reef product. Blue would be my choice while green can be used for freshwater planted tank line, as there is a market for them too with the zen aquascaping fad is sweeping your country. They, the freshwater planted tank hobbyist may want checkers too. I could think of ph, co2, phosphate ( higher level is needed as compared to saltwater ), KNO3 and the regular ammonia, nitrate and nitrite for tank cycling parameter.


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Old 05/26/2010, 07:49 AM   #8
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I'm impressed by a company who listens to it's customers! Wow. I will be looking for these new products and suporting Hanna!


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Old 05/26/2010, 08:08 AM   #9
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Martino: will these be the same style as the P04 checker?
Similar price range?

bfg: im sure you can find a sealed container.
Icecream tub?


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bfg: im sure you can find a sealed container.
Icecream tub?
It wouldn't look professional. Imagine a car mechanic carrying his tool in plastic bag instead of a tool box. What would you think of him ? Proper tool for the proper job.


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Old 05/26/2010, 01:31 PM   #11
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Wow, that's great news. As far as the salinity and pH testers, there are already probes available for those (as well as for nitrate [$$$]), so there probably isn't as much of a market for those.

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interesting.... following along for the calcium,alkalinity and nitrate updates


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Martino: will these be the same style as the P04 checker?
Similar price range?

bfg: im sure you can find a sealed container.
Icecream tub?
Yes, same style as the 713, different color (any suggestions?), and same price point.

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Old 05/26/2010, 03:52 PM   #14
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I think I am starting to get an idea about the carrying cases concept, it does make sense. We'll see what we can come up with.

Thank you for the feedback.


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Wow, that's great news. As far as the salinity and pH testers, there are already probes available for those (as well as for nitrate [$$$]), so there probably isn't as much of a market for those.

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Salinity and ph probe need to be replace every 2 years which may put off newbie to purchase them as they may want to use the funds to buy livestock. With the checkers, they just need to buy the reagent ( if there is ) to know the level of the ph and salinity.


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Are there plans for a checker used for testing the potassium in saltwater?


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Old 05/31/2010, 05:07 PM   #17
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The ALK Checker, do you plan on selling it for the same price? I love my new one plus the neon green is oh so cool

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I think I am starting to get an idea about the carrying cases concept, it does make sense. We'll see what we can come up with.

Thank you for the feedback.
Perhaps selling a hard case targeted specifically at reefkeepers with the pertinent checkers in it already - ie. Phosphate, NO3, Alkalinity, Calcium and whatever others come to be, as I'm sure at the current pricepoint you could quite easily fit well into the already existing test kit set market.

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Yes, same style as the 713, different color (any suggestions?), and same price point.

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Are there plans for a checker used for testing the potassium in saltwater?
I'm also interested in a higher range K checker, specifically one in the 300-500ppm range (to cover the ideal range of K in natural seawater). Definitely would be a hell of a lot better for systems like ZEOvit instead of having to rely on terrible (and expensive!) test kits.


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If your going to make a sw/reef Hanna Checker kit with case, I like the idea of including log sheets. They should have pre-printed graphs with zones for natural seawater ranges and recommended aquarium maximum and minimum ranges on which you would plot your results over time (e.g. each week). It would also be good to add rule-of-thumb relationships between the measured parameters (e.g. Ca(mg/L) = 360 +20 * Alk (meq/L), Redfield ratio N:P=16:1, NO3=NO3-N * 4.4, PO4 = PO4-P * 3.1, etc). The key is to see trends and relationships to the other parameters so that we can adjust accordingly.


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If you all are looking for ways to track your parameters, you can do that online. Here is an example from my tank that I use.


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Well, lots of talk about the carrying case idea. As I mentioned earlier in the post, please give us some time to come up with a solution for you.

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If your current offerings are anything to go by, it'll be well worth the wait it's nice to see a company interacting with and listening to their userbase directly, kudos for that.


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Mr. President, will you consider modify the cap of the test tube a bit as the current one is too tight and a bit of pain to be used as a result. And the current test powder pack design is not convenient to be opened and emptied into the test tube, I think pack with tubular style instead of the flattened square style may be better.

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Mr. President, will you consider modify the cap of the test tube a bit as the current one is too tight and a bit of pain to be used as a result. And the current test powder pack design is not convenient to be opened and emptied into the test tube, I think pack with tubular style instead of the flattened square style may be better.

Cheers!!!

Yes, I also found this problem,
And the current test powder pack design is not convenient to be opened and emptied into the test tube, I think pack with tubular style instead of the flattened square style may be better.
Hope Hanna can improve soon.


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I am....

I am curious as to why you would need a carrying case for the Checkers. Do you carry them around, or is it only to keep them neatly organized?

Thanks for the feedback.

Martino
I would carry them around to the different aquariums I go to during the week.

* Alkalinity
* Ammonia
* Calcium
* Iodine
* Iron
* Magnesium
* Nitrate
* Nitrite
* Phosphate
* Phosphorus

I agree, a package more like a sugar stick would be better. [Google sugar stick if you have not seen these offered in your cafe]



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