Palting's 125 gal build. Advise sought. - Page 7

rayn · 10/02/2010, 11:54 AM

Looks good. But no penthouse?

Palting · 10/02/2010, 04:55 PM

Yup, up on the right is a long and wide shelf about 9" below water level, directly under one of the MH's. First to go to the penthouse will be that naked-looking Bright Color Fiji Acro

. If I ever figure out how to light acclimate it, or if I even have to.

RocketSurgeon · 10/04/2010, 03:29 PM

Looks great!

Palting · 10/04/2010, 03:34 PM

Thanks, Rocket. Slow, but steady. Wish I had a fast forward button and see how it turns out in a few months.

rayn · 10/04/2010, 05:15 PM

Hmmmmm, swammie see another tank in your future

muttley000 · 10/04/2010, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palting

I'm kinda bummed, but still grateful to the people who actually gave quotes from reliable sources and helped me make what I think is the right decision. Thanks, muttley000. I mean it.

Your very welcome, I'm glad someone else benifits from the hours I spend reading (my wife thinks I'm crazy

) I just reallized I never posted in your build thread. I've read so many of your posts that it seems like I know you! The tank looks great, and I for one hope you keep this open, it's great to see progress over the months and the build thread seems the best way in my opinion.

Palting · 10/06/2010, 08:48 PM

Glad there are people who do share the knowlege, muttley.

Too soon for a new tank, Rayn. Maybe in the future, swammie may be right

.

I guess I can keep this thread going. More of a blog now, though. Please feel free to continue to comment and critique, everyone.

It is almost 4 1/2 months since I started this tank. I had diatoms until last week. They all just vanished, whoosh, over the week. I noticed some pink coraline over the weekend, and over the last 3 days, the coraline is exploding. Maybe it's the new live rock, but I'm getting red wart like growths as well as encrusting pink and red ones all over the rocks, old and new, and some on the return nozzles and koralias. A few splotches of emerald green are showing up as well. The inevitable GHA is also making an appearance, but those are being actively mowed down by the tangs and the coral beauty. The caulerpa in the refugium is getting pretty thick, too. I'll chop it down this weekend. All the parameters are good, even the 'trate level is 0.

I don't know if it's just time causing this development, or the salt. I switched from Seachem NeoMarine back to the old faithful Reef Crystals last week.

The new branching acro was starting to bleach, so I went ahead and glued it up at the penthouse, close to the MH and in a direct path of one of the koralias. Seems to like it, as the polyps are starting to show. Bright green polyps, but, boy, tiny ones.

RocketSurgeon · 10/07/2010, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palting

Thanks, Rocket. Slow, but steady. Wish I had a fast forward button and see how it turns out in a few months.

Here is my rewind button!

I appreciate all your posts, in this thread and others. Thanks.

Palting · 10/07/2010, 12:31 PM

NICE!!!!!

How much time in between the two pics?

RocketSurgeon · 10/07/2010, 02:31 PM

Roughly 3 months, but only with 6weeks of T5HO lighting.

Breakdown below:

My original 65 gallon converted from freshwater to saltwater, keeping freshwater lights.

7/1/2010 - Joined a couple forums and became serious about the hobby.

8/1/2010 - Upgraded to 75 gallon and Drilled tank.

8/20/2010 - Purchased T5 lighting

9/20/2010 - DIY Sump

10/1/2010 - Current Picture (Algae and All)

I couldn't have done it without everyone's help and input. I still have a long way to go.

I encourage you to take a lot of pictures and keep a journal.

Palting · 10/07/2010, 03:34 PM

Your tank seems to be maturing faster than mine. I am just starting on the coraline growth, and your's seems to be covering everything.

EDIT: Wife reminded me I didn't really start the tank until 4 weeks ago when I added the livestock. It was sitting just cycling water waiting for replacement tank for the longest time. I love a supportive woman!

RocketSurgeon · 10/07/2010, 03:50 PM

My 65 was up for a year under freshwater lights. I cleaned the sand and transplanted the rocks to the 75. After buying T5 lighting, I also bought some very small heavily coralline covered rock from another. From those few small pieces of rock, it has spread like crazy.

rayn · 10/07/2010, 06:23 PM

Palting, you are running MH right? I started and had my 120 slightly ahead of yours and coralline is growing like crazy covering the rock. Quicker then with my t5 lights. Give yours a little more time and I bet it starts for you too. Is there any in there currently?

Palting · 10/07/2010, 07:19 PM

Yes, I'm running MH, and the coraline is just now starting to bloom. Mostly the pink encrusting type, but there are also a lot of what I would call "confluent red warts". LOL!

My oldest Fiji rock, one of those I used to seed my dry rock when it was still in the 110 gal and had minimal coraline at that time, is now showing unusual coraline. In addition to the usual red and pink, it's also developing both lime and emerald green crusts that seem a little irridiscent. I hope it's not a disease or plague of some kind lol!.

rayn · 10/07/2010, 07:30 PM

Pic! I've read of green coralline, but also that it isn't common. One of my bigger ecosystem has been green for a couple weeks now, but I ddont wanna guess that is it.

Palting · 10/08/2010, 07:15 AM

I'll take a pic when I get home. I just started a thread with a new question. I think I have a vampire acro!! LOL!

Palting · 10/08/2010, 10:21 AM

Home for lunch. Here's the pic. The flash and camera don't do it justice, but you can see the green and blue green coraline on several surfaces. To the right of the acro is one of the conglomerate of my red warts

. The pink under the acro is putty/glue, but all the other pink is coraline.

Palting · 10/08/2010, 11:15 AM

Alright, uou guys have me going on a picture taking rampage here, reather than eating lunch. I need to lose weight, anyway.

Here's some before and after shots of livestock, several weeks apart.

Flower (rock) anemone:

Purple acro:

Gorgonian:

Palting · 10/09/2010, 08:14 AM

Looks like I got an acro harvested from a wild colony, and it opens only at night. Wild acros are more difficult in captivity compared to aquacultured ones, so this is more of a challenge. Hope this one not only lives, but thrives. For posterity, here's a pic taken with flash with the tank in total darkness. So far, that's the only time the polyps are out.

muttley000 · 10/10/2010, 03:33 PM

Hey Palting, How long since you took the lava rock out of the tank? I wonder if it has anything to do with the recent activity??

Palting · 10/10/2010, 04:14 PM

Going on almost 2 weeks now, muttley. Also 2 X 20% WC ago.

Yup, I suspect there indeed was something in the lava rock that was dragging the process down. Since I took them out, I see more coraline, the growth of a purple acro is accelerated, I have a large mat of GSP that now has all polyps open when only part of it used to...

Palting · 10/17/2010, 01:37 PM

Ok. Finally got done cleaning out tthe 110 and sump with vinegar water, and rinsed. Have it up for sale in the for sale forum. Shameless plug, heh-heh-heh

Palting · 10/24/2010, 10:50 AM

It's been a while. Got some new residents.

Pink Stylophora

Green Millepora

Montipora capricornus

Candy cane

Palting · 10/24/2010, 10:54 AM

Remember this one? Silk coral?

It's got babies!! Accidently fragged it when I broke off a piece of the base placing it in the new tank.

rayn · 10/24/2010, 12:15 PM

Nice additions. Are you going the sps route?

10/02/2010, 11:54 AM	#151
rayn Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pekin, Il Posts: 2,834	Looks good. But no penthouse? __________________ Currently changing, stay tuned for new details...

10/02/2010, 04:55 PM	#152
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	Yup, up on the right is a long and wide shelf about 9" below water level, directly under one of the MH's. First to go to the penthouse will be that naked-looking Bright Color Fiji Acro . If I ever figure out how to light acclimate it, or if I even have to. __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

10/04/2010, 03:34 PM	#154
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	Thanks, Rocket. Slow, but steady. Wish I had a fast forward button and see how it turns out in a few months. __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

10/04/2010, 05:15 PM	#155
rayn Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pekin, Il Posts: 2,834	Hmmmmm, swammie see another tank in your future __________________ Currently changing, stay tuned for new details...

10/06/2010, 08:48 PM	#157
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	Glad there are people who do share the knowlege, muttley. Too soon for a new tank, Rayn. Maybe in the future, swammie may be right . I guess I can keep this thread going. More of a blog now, though. Please feel free to continue to comment and critique, everyone. It is almost 4 1/2 months since I started this tank. I had diatoms until last week. They all just vanished, whoosh, over the week. I noticed some pink coraline over the weekend, and over the last 3 days, the coraline is exploding. Maybe it's the new live rock, but I'm getting red wart like growths as well as encrusting pink and red ones all over the rocks, old and new, and some on the return nozzles and koralias. A few splotches of emerald green are showing up as well. The inevitable GHA is also making an appearance, but those are being actively mowed down by the tangs and the coral beauty. The caulerpa in the refugium is getting pretty thick, too. I'll chop it down this weekend. All the parameters are good, even the 'trate level is 0. I don't know if it's just time causing this development, or the salt. I switched from Seachem NeoMarine back to the old faithful Reef Crystals last week. The new branching acro was starting to bleach, so I went ahead and glued it up at the penthouse, close to the MH and in a direct path of one of the koralias. Seems to like it, as the polyps are starting to show. Bright green polyps, but, boy, tiny ones. __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam Last edited by Palting; 10/06/2010 at 08:56 PM.

10/04/2010, 03:29 PM	#153
RocketSurgeon Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 653	Looks great!

10/07/2010, 12:31 PM	#159
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	NICE!!!!! How much time in between the two pics? __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

10/07/2010, 02:31 PM	#160
RocketSurgeon Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 653	Roughly 3 months, but only with 6weeks of T5HO lighting. Breakdown below: My original 65 gallon converted from freshwater to saltwater, keeping freshwater lights. 7/1/2010 - Joined a couple forums and became serious about the hobby. 8/1/2010 - Upgraded to 75 gallon and Drilled tank. 8/20/2010 - Purchased T5 lighting 9/20/2010 - DIY Sump 10/1/2010 - Current Picture (Algae and All) I couldn't have done it without everyone's help and input. I still have a long way to go. I encourage you to take a lot of pictures and keep a journal.

10/07/2010, 03:34 PM	#161
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	Your tank seems to be maturing faster than mine. I am just starting on the coraline growth, and your's seems to be covering everything. EDIT: Wife reminded me I didn't really start the tank until 4 weeks ago when I added the livestock. It was sitting just cycling water waiting for replacement tank for the longest time. I love a supportive woman! __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam Last edited by Palting; 10/07/2010 at 03:41 PM.

10/07/2010, 03:50 PM	#162
RocketSurgeon Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 653	My 65 was up for a year under freshwater lights. I cleaned the sand and transplanted the rocks to the 75. After buying T5 lighting, I also bought some very small heavily coralline covered rock from another. From those few small pieces of rock, it has spread like crazy.

10/07/2010, 06:23 PM	#163
rayn Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pekin, Il Posts: 2,834	Palting, you are running MH right? I started and had my 120 slightly ahead of yours and coralline is growing like crazy covering the rock. Quicker then with my t5 lights. Give yours a little more time and I bet it starts for you too. Is there any in there currently? __________________ Currently changing, stay tuned for new details...

10/07/2010, 07:19 PM	#164
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	Yes, I'm running MH, and the coraline is just now starting to bloom. Mostly the pink encrusting type, but there are also a lot of what I would call "confluent red warts". LOL! My oldest Fiji rock, one of those I used to seed my dry rock when it was still in the 110 gal and had minimal coraline at that time, is now showing unusual coraline. In addition to the usual red and pink, it's also developing both lime and emerald green crusts that seem a little irridiscent. I hope it's not a disease or plague of some kind lol!. __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

10/07/2010, 07:30 PM	#165
rayn Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pekin, Il Posts: 2,834	Pic! I've read of green coralline, but also that it isn't common. One of my bigger ecosystem has been green for a couple weeks now, but I ddont wanna guess that is it. __________________ Currently changing, stay tuned for new details...

10/08/2010, 07:15 AM	#166
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	I'll take a pic when I get home. I just started a thread with a new question. I think I have a vampire acro!! LOL! __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

10/08/2010, 10:21 AM	#167
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	Home for lunch. Here's the pic. The flash and camera don't do it justice, but you can see the green and blue green coraline on several surfaces. To the right of the acro is one of the conglomerate of my red warts . The pink under the acro is putty/glue, but all the other pink is coraline. __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam Last edited by Palting; 10/08/2010 at 10:33 AM.

10/08/2010, 11:15 AM	#168
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	Alright, uou guys have me going on a picture taking rampage here, reather than eating lunch. I need to lose weight, anyway. Here's some before and after shots of livestock, several weeks apart. Flower (rock) anemone: Purple acro: Gorgonian: __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

10/09/2010, 08:14 AM	#169
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	Looks like I got an acro harvested from a wild colony, and it opens only at night. Wild acros are more difficult in captivity compared to aquacultured ones, so this is more of a challenge. Hope this one not only lives, but thrives. For posterity, here's a pic taken with flash with the tank in total darkness. So far, that's the only time the polyps are out. __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

10/10/2010, 03:33 PM	#170
muttley000 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 1,420	Hey Palting, How long since you took the lava rock out of the tank? I wonder if it has anything to do with the recent activity?? __________________ 29 gallon Display with 29 gal sump 40 pounds Bali Alor rock 6" RDSB in rubble and macro fuge Aqua C EV120 Skimmer w/mag 5 mag 7 return w/ glass*holes 1500 overflow MP10 for circulation Hamilton 175 W 10000K w/1 T5 actnic and 1 10K T5 Custom Stand and Hood Current Tank Info: 29 gal reef, 65 fowler, 5 gal nano, 17 gal Nemo Pair. 40 Breeder, 40 standard, 37 cube, 30 gal, 47 bow, 20 long all empty right now

10/10/2010, 04:14 PM	#171
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	Going on almost 2 weeks now, muttley. Also 2 X 20% WC ago. Yup, I suspect there indeed was something in the lava rock that was dragging the process down. Since I took them out, I see more coraline, the growth of a purple acro is accelerated, I have a large mat of GSP that now has all polyps open when only part of it used to... __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

10/17/2010, 01:37 PM	#172
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	Ok. Finally got done cleaning out tthe 110 and sump with vinegar water, and rinsed. Have it up for sale in the for sale forum. Shameless plug, heh-heh-heh __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

10/24/2010, 10:50 AM	#173
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	It's been a while. Got some new residents. Pink Stylophora Green Millepora Montipora capricornus Candy cane __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

10/24/2010, 10:54 AM	#174
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,182	Remember this one? Silk coral? It's got babies!! Accidently fragged it when I broke off a piece of the base placing it in the new tank. __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 30g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, CBA, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

10/24/2010, 12:15 PM	#175
rayn Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pekin, Il Posts: 2,834	Nice additions. Are you going the sps route? __________________ Currently changing, stay tuned for new details...

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