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Old 01/17/2017, 08:34 AM   #51
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+1 to what Hippiesmell and Wzrdbear said back in 2010.

I have lots of these in all my tanks. And assuming different sizes indicate different species I've got different species together in the same system. And I've seen the same that Wzrdbear described back at the beginning of this thread. Looking at some of the responses ("vermitids growing through a monti"?!) and my understanding of how important feeding is to corals I gotta wonder if there's some other issue that's affecting the corals and not letting them compete and leaving food available for everything else. Unfortunately from what I've seen once this cycle gets going it's hard to correct using the traditional assumptions about limiting nutrients.


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Old 01/17/2017, 09:59 AM   #52
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I'm in the same boat I have hundreds of these little pests, I did introduced a Toby puffer a week ago,
He did nip at little tubes but he hasn't touched the big ones
And also he got appetite for one of my tricolor acro hasn't touched other corals but just that one..


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Old 01/17/2017, 10:38 AM   #53
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Yup +1 vermetid growing thru monti cap

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Old 01/18/2017, 04:59 PM   #54
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I have these growing in my tank in large numbers but they don't seem to have harmed any corals. I do have the grow on the bottom of mdntipora and in side the return box. So far they are just apart of the eco system. But I also have a pair of malunarus wrasse who seem to make it their job at ridding my system of any buggers. The female is a much better hunter than the male too.


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Old 01/18/2017, 05:25 PM   #55
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Dunno what to do anymore... I have. A melanurus, 8 bumblebee snails, a Toby puffer...A aarghh


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Old 01/18/2017, 10:55 PM   #56
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hi guys!
check my new thread.. I think I hit the jackpot.. maybe is too early to speak but a big chunk of these pests are gone...

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2619815


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Old 02/12/2017, 09:17 PM   #57
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Lets keep this one alive... let the other die out. Update isayso?

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Old 02/13/2017, 09:04 AM   #58
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Sorry becon776...
The Toby did Eat / killed a bunch of them.. BUT after a couple of weeks he developed. A GOOD appetite for some of the. SPS.... he left the Building.


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Old 02/20/2017, 12:06 PM   #59
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Ok... so i have had a strict philosophy over the last 8 yrs of reefing NO CRABS! The other day randomly and for no real reason at all I added about 20 blue leg hermits, and 3 emerald crabs. These guys have been going nonstop. All the the web "trash" has been picked clean off the rocks. I almost thought i saw a emerald picking at one of the tubes.
So i am gonna go ahead and put 15 more in and 5 scarlet and 1 more emerald. Lets see. Maybe these guys got a foothold bc i didnt have and hermits in cuc for a decade.

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Old 02/20/2017, 12:32 PM   #60
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^^^^^^interesting.....ill be following your progress^^^^^^^

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Old 02/21/2017, 11:25 AM   #61
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Want to keep this thread alive, These pests are now taking over my euphyllia. Hoping we can find a solution.


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Old 02/25/2017, 05:42 PM   #62
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Ok... so i have had a strict philosophy over the last 8 yrs of reefing NO CRABS! The other day randomly and for no real reason at all I added about 20 blue leg hermits, and 3 emerald crabs. These guys have been going nonstop. All the the web "trash" has been picked clean off the rocks. I almost thought i saw a emerald picking at one of the tubes.
So i am gonna go ahead and put 15 more in and 5 scarlet and 1 more emerald. Lets see. Maybe these guys got a foothold bc i didnt have and hermits in cuc for a decade.

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definitely I will be following your steps like a shadow ..
please keep us posted.. we cant give al up because of these pests


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Old 02/25/2017, 10:10 PM   #63
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Ok so here is the update. In addition to dealing with this pest. I am also now i. A house that i will likely be at for a long time so i am really getting tank in shape. So there a ALOT of changes happening.

Ok blue legs and emeralds in a couple weeks ago. My rockk is cleaner than it been in years. I swear that the vermet8ds are not as active as before. The crabs have eaten all the old webs / detritus on rock. It has caused a nutrient influx in tank and so red slime has reared its head. Refreshed gfo and rox carbon. However i do remember somebody saying thay red slime took care of the vermetid problem. It smothered them out. Either way thungs are changing for the better it seems


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Old 02/26/2017, 08:10 AM   #64
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Nice to hear.
But do you actually see the vermetid snail
Declining?? Not believe active doesn't necessary mean that are Dying..


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Old 03/04/2017, 04:23 PM   #65
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Here is what has happened these crabs have PICKED CLEAN all the old webs and detritus on rocks... which of course flooded tanks with new nutrients. Enter red slime. This has COVERED the rocks. RIP vermetids. We will see. I have never had a cyanno outbreak. But i know when i want to end it its easy with chemiclean. Which is a hell of alot better than vermetids.

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Old 03/04/2017, 04:25 PM   #66
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Old 03/09/2017, 07:57 AM   #67
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Update red slime gone but veremtid still there :-/ i prob should have let the red slime go longer. Never had red slime, never used any chemicals in tank been reefing for over 17 yrs. I will say chemiclean is AMAZING wow. Dont hesitate to use this product for red slime.

Back to vermetids..... i did buy 'bone shears' from brs and the are HANDY. make short work of dealing with tge bigger tubes.
I cant say that the crabs kills the vermetids but they certainly annoy them and consistently steal their webs and cleanup the leftover ones. Which makes me happy. I love my rock and tank looks beautiful right now. I jist wish there was a bettrr answer orther than buy new rock and start cycling it or put some super non reef fish into my system

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Old 03/09/2017, 10:02 AM   #68
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Darn.. I want them gone.
Ain't gonna stop looking for
A remedy to this pest
Thanks for your info.


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Old 03/17/2017, 01:18 PM   #69
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Interesting observation while working with some rock. I had taken some rock out of my tank and put it in my sump, then was ready to remove it alltogether. I dropped it strait into a saltwater bath and dosed a high dose of LaCL to soak up any phosphates in the water to help leach any phosphate out of the rock as fast as I could. I did it in saltwater as I wanted too re-use the rock immediately and not "Kill It" just use high doses of LaCL to leach phosphate as fast as possible. After a few treatments I noticed the Vermetid snails stopped webbing when dosing LaCL. A little further reading confirmed many people reporting the death of most filter feeders when there was high levels of sustained LaCL precipitate. Since I dosed heavily and frequently I would propose repeated heavy exposure to LaCL precipitate may have negative effects on these snails.

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While this may be true just remember it can NOT be dosed, except into a filter sock if you run it in the display tank.


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Maybe taking the rocks out and dip them into a super solution of lanthanum for a few minutes


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One fish I have known to wipe out a vermetid population is the purple tang, but ONLY in a large-enough tank.


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Old 03/18/2017, 01:23 PM   #73
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Vermetid snails are underrated. I think they are the worst. I've had them in all my tanks and they eventually take over. Overtime they grow inside the return tubing impairing flow. I just started another tank about 6 months ago and am paranoid I did not introduce any from my older tank.


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Let me tell you that I'm paranoid too
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One fish I have known to wipe out a vermetid population is the purple tang, but ONLY in a large-enough tank.
I have a purple tang and I never seen it pick at it.
I also have about 50 hermit and they never seem to do anything either.


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