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Old 06/12/2017, 07:14 PM   #126
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Never tried,
Might work


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Old 06/23/2017, 11:21 AM   #127
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Bayer will not work. I restarted my tank a year ago, and dipped everything that was transferred over that had some of these guys on it in a strong bayer solution with a powerhead. I manually removed all I could find, and dipped everything. Started with all new equipment, all new dry rock and sand. I kept my coral on egg crate stands in the new tank for months, and monitored them for vermetids popping back up, which they did. I steadily removed all I found, and eventually one rock got a bunch on it seemingly overnight ( not really, but didnt take long). I took that rock out, dipped in muriatic, and replaced. Fine for a few months, no other issues. Kept inspecting pieces that had a few pop up every now and then. Eventually I thought I got them all and quit monitoring. A month or so later, I noticed one on my main rock structure, then another... Etc. On every rock and a couple on my overflow.

Summary, bayer dips aren't the answer.

Good news, though! I posted this in another thread, but it appears the dewormer fenbendazole kills them, and even better news, it can be used as an in tank treatment if done properly, and with certain precautions.

Fenbendazole has been used for long time to kill hydroids in seahorse tanks. I stumbled on a relatively new thread on another forum that mentioned it being used as an in tank (reef) treatment foe hydroids and had a great side effect of killing vermetids. Reportedly killed all he had.

Caveats: kills other snails and starfish, some corals like xenia, gsp, gorgs,bristle worms. Zoas are said to be fine, fish are unaffected, sps, lps are fine. It takes several months to purge the system and be safe for snails and starfish again, but if it rids the tank of vermetids, that's a pretty decent trade off.

Google fenbendazole kills vermetids


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Old 06/23/2017, 12:27 PM   #128
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Wow ,thank you very much
I might have a look tonight
Sometimes the lost of a few corals is
The price to pay


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Old 06/23/2017, 02:26 PM   #129
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I'll follow along anyone trying this method..

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Old 06/23/2017, 04:16 PM   #130
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Where do you get that medicine?


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Old 06/27/2017, 10:36 AM   #131
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https://www.amazon.com/Bendazole-250...fish+bendazole

This is what I ordered. Have not done the treatment yet, will post an update and details when I do. Planning on doing it this weekend over 4th of July holiday. If you check out that other forum, there is lots of information on dosage and sources of fenbendazole.


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Old 09/01/2017, 01:38 PM   #132
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Old 09/02/2017, 09:38 PM   #133
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I was wondering the same


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Old 09/03/2017, 09:27 AM   #134
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Bayer will not work. I restarted my tank a year ago, and dipped everything that was transferred over that had some of these guys on it in a strong bayer solution with a powerhead. I manually removed all I could find, and dipped everything. Started with all new equipment, all new dry rock and sand. I kept my coral on egg crate stands in the new tank for months, and monitored them for vermetids popping back up, which they did. I steadily removed all I found, and eventually one rock got a bunch on it seemingly overnight ( not really, but didnt take long). I took that rock out, dipped in muriatic, and replaced. Fine for a few months, no other issues. Kept inspecting pieces that had a few pop up every now and then. Eventually I thought I got them all and quit monitoring. A month or so later, I noticed one on my main rock structure, then another... Etc. On every rock and a couple on my overflow.

Summary, bayer dips aren't the answer.


I'm sorry Bayer didn't work for you.

I was able to use Bayer successfully. Here's how I did it.

I sterilized everything including rock with bleach and let it dry, vinegar washed and dried out the rock again, fragged the corals making sure to cut out any snails that had been surrounded or grown over by coral (I only kept live coral, no skeleton), thoroughly Bayer dipped all coral and placed them in a holding tank with completely new water, being sure not to cross contaminate.

I started my tank up all over again and I am now vermited free.

Bayer most likely does not work on adult vermetids in their tubes. However, I do believe it works on the earlier stages of life. The stage that cannot be seen with the naked eye. I believe it is possible to transfer baby microscopic vermetids on anything wet. So it is very important to avoid cross contamination.

It was a ton of work starting over, but honestly if I had started over long ago, I would've saved myself even more work. I manually removed thousands over several years trying to eradicate them.

I wish you guys luck.



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Old 09/05/2017, 11:18 AM   #135
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I'm sorry Bayer didn't work for you.

I was able to use Bayer successfully. Here's how I did it.

I sterilized everything including rock with bleach and let it dry, vinegar washed and dried out the rock again, fragged the corals making sure to cut out any snails that had been surrounded or grown over by coral (I only kept live coral, no skeleton), thoroughly Bayer dipped all coral and placed them in a holding tank with completely new water, being sure not to cross contaminate.

I started my tank up all over again and I am now vermited free.

Bayer most likely does not work on adult vermetids in their tubes. However, I do believe it works on the earlier stages of life. The stage that cannot be seen with the naked eye. I believe it is possible to transfer baby microscopic vermetids on anything wet. So it is very important to avoid cross contamination.

It was a ton of work starting over, but honestly if I had started over long ago, I would've saved myself even more work. I manually removed thousands over several years trying to eradicate them.

I wish you guys luck.
That is exactly what I did. The vermetids grew back on frags that were vermetid free. It does not work on any life stage. You got lucky and did not transfer any. I scrutinized those pieces several times and did not find any adults before dipping and transferring.

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Old 09/11/2017, 10:48 AM   #136
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This may not be helpful for all, but a predator makes short work of them. I added a clown trigger and he does not touch the corals but makes short work of ALL inverts. The only inverts I had were a sand sifting start fish that has been in one of my systems for over a year, and vermetid snails. He ate 4 of the 5 legs of the star and then never proceeded to bother him again. He is slowly healing and regrowing his legs. The snails were mostly gone in a week. I still have one or two pop up, but they do not last long.


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Old 09/12/2017, 11:19 AM   #137
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How long have you had the clown?
Sometimes is too early to see it nipping at corals


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Old 09/14/2017, 02:55 PM   #138
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How long have you had the clown?
Sometimes is too early to see it nipping at corals
I have had this guy for only a couple of months. The tank he came from also had corals and he didn't touch any of them. I keep him well fed, and in between the feedings he hunts for the vermetids. Haha he also loves nori, go figure.


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Old 09/14/2017, 06:50 PM   #139
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Tempted... but I will pass on this,
My Toby puffer was good until corals tasted better than vermetid snails


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I have always loved puffers, with the exception of the dwarf ones, I always see them go after corals and nems. I read a few accounts of people keeping CT long term (5+ years) with no issues with corals. Inverts and their tank mates were another story.


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I restarted my tank, all new dry rock, sterilized everything checked all the corals in quarantine tank
Now I'm afraid to transfer it again with the corals rock
Any suggestions


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Old 10/23/2017, 06:07 AM   #142
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I restarted my tank, all new dry rock, sterilized everything checked all the corals in quarantine tank
Now I'm afraid to transfer it again with the corals rock
Any suggestions
Quarantine them, inspect regularly. Cut away as much dead skeleton or rock base as you can. If on a frag plug, cut it off, put it on a new frag plug. I would inspect everything very thoroughly twice a week. When you havent seen any for 2 or 3 months, I'd say you are good.

If you still have snails, be careful. They can carry them back in too

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Old 10/23/2017, 03:21 PM   #143
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Thanks for your answer
I haver lps hammers frog brains polyps and montipora I removed all what I can see with
Dremel even the Snails shell all cleaned also super glue the corals branches


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Old 10/23/2017, 03:54 PM   #144
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Good. Luck buddy
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Old 10/31/2017, 10:11 AM   #145
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This may be purely anecdotal, but I picked up a rock that had nearly a dozen vermetid snails, and didn't realize it until I saw the mucous webs flying out after stirring up the sand bed. I decided to bury the rock in the sand and left it there for 2 weeks, and when I flipped it back over, the tubes were hollow, and haven't done any mucous strings since then. Maybe they can't traverse in the sand?

I know burying all your rocks in sand isn't a "viable" answer, but I only had 1 rock which made it simple.


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Old 10/31/2017, 10:39 AM   #146
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Maybe they starved and died
I've never seen snail leaving the tube


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