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Old 06/27/2010, 12:08 PM   #1
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snowflake ?

I figured to post in here due to correct forum and more traffic- more help

Biocube 29:

i dont have this issues until recenlty few days even before change water.

corals and a fish looks good.

I have chemi pure and purgin w/ cheato in rear of chamber.

I used seaham stabitlity dose, calcuim 2x week dose , Ph8.4 dose.

I m going to stop using stability dose and PH8.4 since its good now.

I change water w/ RO/DI weekly -5 gals.

TEST KIT by API:
parm-
nit-0
pho-0
amm-0
cal 480
alk 12
PH8.4 -8.2
temp 80.1

I dont heck know what it caused...its very little cloudy/fog and there are so MANNYYY TINY mirco bubbles.

I dont know where mircobubbles coming from.

I turned return pump off and wait 10 mins its not going away.

SW has a snowflake like dust.

I changed water yesterday 5gal. - could i change sooner like tomorrow ? or ?

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Old 06/27/2010, 12:19 PM   #2
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It could be because you alk and caln is so high. Your tank will actually start snowing if this is the case. According to your test they don't seem to high but bit far off.


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Old 06/27/2010, 12:27 PM   #3
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guess only way to do is change water asap ? or wait till next Saturday?

Cal 480 is that HIGH ?? whats best range for Cal ?

ALK i used 12 dropped by API its 179

I will re - do test later.

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Old 06/27/2010, 12:46 PM   #4
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Ok I tested it and cal is up to 500 now and akh is 214.7 API test -12 drops..

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Old 06/27/2010, 01:12 PM   #5
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Sounds like you have calcium carbonate precipitating in your water (snow storm). If so, your alk test and your calcium kit will be off since they read the calcium carbonate precipitation as well.

Dosing too much high pH supplements at one time will cause this.

The main concern is your pH. It should not rise above 8.6 or you will need to reduce it.

Water changes will not necessarily be beneficial at this point. Running a filter bag will help remove the precipitation from your water column.


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Old 06/27/2010, 02:08 PM   #6
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I have a chemi pure bag in it...

What kind of filter bag u re talking about? What's brand? I'll run to LFS once I know what to buy filter bag

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Old 06/27/2010, 02:12 PM   #7
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What's your Mg at?
If Mg is very low then calcium can perciptate out and cause snowflakes.


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Old 06/27/2010, 02:16 PM   #8
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I have a chemi pure bag in it...

What kind of filter bag u re talking about? What's brand? I'll run to LFS once I know what to buy filter bag

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A filter bag with a pore size of about 75 microns to 100 microns in size will work best. Many just have draw strings to fasten it and they work fine and are cheaper.


http://www.marinedepot.com/Berlin_Su...FRBSRP-vi.html


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Old 06/27/2010, 02:53 PM   #9
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What's your Mg at?
If Mg is very low then calcium can perciptate out and cause snowflakes.
I don't have mg test kit but I will buy soon maybe tomorrow

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Old 06/27/2010, 02:59 PM   #10
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A filter bag with a pore size of about 75 microns to 100 microns in size will work best. Many just have draw strings to fasten it and they work fine and are cheaper.


http://www.marinedepot.com/Berlin_Su...FRBSRP-vi.html
Sorry I'm newbie.... What to put in a filter bag?

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Old 06/27/2010, 03:18 PM   #11
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YOu don't need to put anything in the filter bag. You will need to install it where water can go through it to collect the debris.


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Old 06/27/2010, 06:59 PM   #12
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ok got it!

Umm wheres the best to place it ?? return pump outlet ? powerhead? inlet ?

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You might need to spread the dose out, maybe dose once a day, to keep the levels more even.


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Old 06/28/2010, 08:04 AM   #14
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updated today, its still snowflake in it..

fish and corals seem happy to me.....fed fish and shrunk shrimp..

ph 8.4 is still under 8.0 so should i put dose 8.4 in ???

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Old 06/28/2010, 08:21 AM   #15
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ok got it!

Umm wheres the best to place it ?? return pump outlet ? powerhead? inlet ?

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On the exit pipe of the overflow if your tank is drilled or have a hang on.


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The pH 8.4 is an alkalinity supplement that increases pH, so it should never be used just to raise the pH. That's probably the cause of your problems. I'd stop the pH 8.4 and wait for a while. pH 8.0 is fine as is.


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Old 06/28/2010, 02:22 PM   #17
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got it !

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Old 06/28/2010, 02:37 PM   #18
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Old 06/30/2010, 06:35 AM   #19
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updated:

the cloudy/fog is much LESS now but little "left over" snowflake...

It seems that Filter bag is actually work. Thanks-

as per API test kit- AKH 12, Cal has raised to 540 (yesterday tested) and will do test again today, PH-8.4 is 8.0.

Plans to change the water RO/DI this Saturday AM.

Just ordered MG test kit.

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It seems that Filter bag is actually work. Thanks-

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Your welcome.

FWIW, continuing to run a filter bag and keeping it cleaned out regularly will also help in reducing suspended organic matter in your tank in addition to a good skimmer.


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The fog might cause the alkalinity test kit to read a false high level, so I'd watch that parameter carefully for a few days.


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Old 07/02/2010, 03:12 PM   #22
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UPDATED:

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Pho-0
Nitra-0
Cal-500
KH- 11 drops (API test kit) 196.9
temp 81.1
PH8.4- 8.0

CAL and KH starts to low now.

I m contunuing to use filter bag for 1 more day before change water on Saturday.

Also I just got MG kit and will doing some test later tonight.

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