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07/01/2010, 06:15 PM | #1 |
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is there a consensus yet - which NP pellet is best?
So the title says it all. These "solid vodka" pellets have been around for a few months now. Is there a consensus yet as to which is most effective, easiest to use, etc? There are so many to choose from, and I'm not even sure yet if any of them really work...
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I belive they all work. I dont think the Warner Marine Ecobak and the Vertex Pro Biopellets have been out as long though. I am using the Vertex but cant give you a honest opinion since Im on my 5th day.
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I would say it's still to early to tell which one is best. The Warner Marine EcoBAK is barely available at retailers.
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I'm ordering some biopellets for my new aquarium and would like to hear some good advice too. Vertex pellets are about $15 cheaper than NP biopellets so that's always a plus I guess.
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I've been use WM EcoBak pellets on my system for about a week now and i'm looking forward to the results. In all the research i've done i've seen quality results in all the different brands. Best option IMO is to pick one and give it a fair chance by sticking with it for a while.
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in short, the best one is one that WORKS. It seems that all the brands have had successes, but still some are not working well for everyone. I, for example, am using the original NP Bio Pellets and still have not seen any amazing results (reductions in either N or P) in a couple of months. My levels are not "rising" but they are not going down either. So if you try one and it works...then stick with it.
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So there have been results, the results haven't been a reduction but instead they have put a stop to the previous accumulation. |
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Maybe what is missing, is understanding the true amount of the pellets needs to match each tanks nutrition level/bio load and maybe really as with any carbon dosing some tanks might really need a lot in order to see that reduction. I can atest to this as with gfo I was going by what the back of the container said and I was not able to even put a dent in my phos, the I went on bulkreef and got a better understand of how much gfo I trully needed to be able to bring down and keep my phos at zero. I needed at least 4 cups worth of gfo and happy to say my phos is zero, now for these pellets, I too have some on the way but even my really really high bio load I am started out with 3 liters on a 210.
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If the tank isn't carbon-limited for bacterial growth, the dosing won't do any good. It's also possible that there are other issues involved.
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going to jump on this bandwagon too...also wondering which pellet is producing consistent results.
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Well, that's an interesting point that I overlooked. Honestly, though, I don't think the bacterial population is surface-limited in most tanks. I'll have to think about that, but experience with products like the SeaChem De*Nitrate and zeolites seem to indicate that surface area alone sometimes isn't the only factor.
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I don't know whether the pellets would tend to be more like live rock or like bio-balls. Supposedly, the bio-balls are fairly porous, but that's not going to be very useful if the surface gets covered with a bacterial mat or its equivalent.
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Well, that's not clear. Their effectiveness might be due to the carbon dosing, which makes them very different from bio-balls and live rock.
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well i am using the ecoback and they seem to worh better than expected. a friend had 30ppm nitrate installed the pills,had a bacteria bloom for about a day,that cleared up 6 days later nitrates were measured and only had 5ppm.it was not her hype becuase i was the one who tested her water.
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I wouldn't doubt that all of this comes from a couple of suppliers and is just being re-branded.
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By the way, I just started with the vertex brand yesterday. |
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That's already a known fact, I read on one of these pellet threads there are two major mfg's to aquire these from.
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I started with the NP Bio-pellets back in October of this year, then I top them off with NX Bio-pellets and then the Vertex Bio-pellets so I am running a bio-pellet cocktail which has improved my tank from what it was a year ago. As I am approaching the one year mark I can say for myself and my tank things just keep getting better but the skimmer continues to be "one hot mess." Know that in this hobby bad things happen fast and good thins come slowly. Also keep in mind every tank is different so will be the response time of when the pellets will kick in and create a true ULNS. Took me eight whole months to get to 0 No3 & 0 P04 and now I am waiting for my corals to recovery and color up after spending Almost a year in high nitrate and Phosphate conditions, hopefully by the spring of next year the now brown sticks will be as colorful as a box of Crayola's .
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