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Old 01/13/2011, 10:38 AM   #26
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Salinity match, Corp; ph match to be extra careful. Start now, let the topoff/evaporation action adjust the salinity, and you're good.


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Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low.

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Old 01/13/2011, 12:56 PM   #27
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Edit: The more I think about it, I find myself asking: if I have space for 5 gallon buckets, or this intermediate container... why don't I have space for a small QT?
I was asking this as I read your post.

If you can't do a full QT, and there may be legitimate reasons why you can't, you can at least set up a bucket with a couple gallons of water at the correct specific gravity to transfer your fish to. Dump a quarter of this water for new water each day for a few days and you can easily acclimate a fish to a new salinity over a longer period.

The key is getting them out of the shipping water as soon as practical.

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Old 01/13/2011, 01:02 PM   #28
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I... but figuring the dose [of Prime] with a tiny goby's water, not so easy.
One fortunate thing is that it's hard to overdose Prime. I use five drops a gallon, one drop for a quart or less is easy. Even if you dosed five times the listed amount you're safe. Not sure on AmQuel but it has to be close to the same effect.

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Old 01/13/2011, 02:09 PM   #29
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Good to know, Jeff: reference for any emergency. And one can look up cups to quarts to gallons online: just type in the question and programs do the math.

I use Prime to de-scent my hands after using bleach: we keep it in the laundry area as well as the fish sump area!


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Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low.

Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge lps reef: 3 firefish, yellowhead jawfish, yellow watchman, 3 chromis, tailspot/starry blennies, pink margin fairy wrasse, mandarin, kalk, radion pro, gyre, Eshopps s-200 skimmer, basement sump.
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Old 01/13/2011, 02:09 PM   #30
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Good to know, Jeff: reference for any emergency. And one can look up cups to quarts to gallons online: just type in the question and programs do the math.

I use Prime to de-scent my hands after using bleach: we keep it in the laundry area as well as the fish sump area!


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Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low.

Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge lps reef: 3 firefish, yellowhead jawfish, yellow watchman, 3 chromis, tailspot/starry blennies, pink margin fairy wrasse, mandarin, kalk, radion pro, gyre, Eshopps s-200 skimmer, basement sump.
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For those of you of you that got presents from Santa. This is and always will be wonderful information.


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Old 01/05/2012, 07:35 PM   #32
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what about buying fish from an LFS? should the same method apply?


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what about buying fish from an LFS? should the same method apply?
Absolutely. I buy all my fish from the same LFS. They keep their water at 1.024 which basically matches my QT & DT (I'm at 1.025). When I get home I float for 15 min for temp, then net straight into QT. No drip or delay, they're in their new home immediately. Never had any issues.


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Old 01/06/2012, 02:39 AM   #34
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THis is good info I think it will help a lot of people out looks like it will make a great sticky


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Old 01/06/2012, 05:45 PM   #35
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Not only is it good info it's correct info.


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This should definitely be a sticky.


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Old 01/06/2012, 08:24 PM   #37
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I have now acclimated 10 fish to my QT and haven't lost a single one. I even had some fish that didn't look so good after being shipped to me. I chalk it up to quick and proper acclimation. My fish after floating are in the tank within 20 minutes.

I think Sk8r should consolidate all his/her stickies into one new thread and we should just sticky that because s/he has so many hahaha.


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Old 01/07/2012, 03:18 AM   #38
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Just along for the ride. Thank you sk8r!


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Old 01/07/2012, 10:13 PM   #39
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Yum, knowledge. Great info.


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Old 01/07/2012, 10:33 PM   #40
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Sk8r- Great information! But I want to double check. I'm receiving a Dr. F&S DD shipment this week. DD salinity is 1.025 (I called them to make sure). My Q tank salinity is 1.024. After floating sealed bags for temperature match, all I have to do is place the fish directly into Q tank without any "drip" acclimation ( or any adding any water for that matter) to the bags.

What about if there is a difference in ph between the shipping bags and my Q tank? Do I then drip acclimate for 30 minutes "tops"?

The fish I'm receiving are a Scribbled Angel and Blonde Naso Tang (male).


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bump up for this thread, been looking for it all night!


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Old 01/16/2012, 10:50 PM   #42
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With the search being down I have had to expand the cut off dates to two weeks. Any ways, I second Sushi's motion for a sticky. Although I thought it already was, must have gotten moved out with all the other stickies being made.


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Old 01/17/2012, 12:18 AM   #43
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I think we need a master sticky for a comprehensive compilation of all of Sk8r's threads.


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Old 01/17/2012, 08:46 AM   #44
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I don't doubt the information, but I'm confused why all the retailers tell you to do lengthy drip acclimations if its bad for the fish. Most offer guarantees on the fish, so giving you bad information that is more likely to kill the fish seems bad for business.


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Great info. I got an emerald crab, and he pooed 5 times in the bag! In a 30 min drive! I have been drip acclimating, but will start with the "quick" method now. It should save water, too.

I think that retailers tell you to do a drip acclimation because this would ensure that all the parameters are the same. What they should tell you is to do it quickly.


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Old 01/17/2012, 11:04 AM   #46
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I'm the reason SushiGirl (thanks again) was looking for this thread. I got a Radiant Wrasse from DD last week and did an "extra careful, slow 2hr acclimation" so as not to over stress my first wrasse. He went straight into the sand, the next time I saw it, it was dead. Wish I had seen this thread earlier.


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So if I buy a fish and it was shipped to me and in a bag all night. When I test the bag water sg its 1.017 and my tank is at 1.024. What is my best way to match the sg if I shouldn't drip for to long?


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So if I buy a fish and it was shipped to me and in a bag all night. When I test the bag water sg its 1.017 and my tank is at 1.024. What is my best way to match the sg if I shouldn't drip for to long?
Set up a quarantine tank with 1.017 water for a few weeks. Raising from 1.017 to 1.025 needs to be done slowly.


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Old 03/15/2012, 08:34 AM   #49
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Thanks for the information. I havn't lost any fish (probably luck) but I now see that I haven't done them any favors.

Or mayby I have lost some. I have had fish die after a week. Is it possible they could last that long before the damage finally caught up to them?

Either way, I will certainly be using this method from now on.


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Sk8r, I have a question...

Would it make sense to test the bag water to verify sg before opening it? What I am thinking is use a syringe to pierce the bag near where it is closed off and draw a ml or so of water into the syringe, then roll down the rubber band to make sure nothing leaks out of the tiny hole

You could then spot check the sg with a refractometer

Do you see any harm in this?


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