vortech controller?

cherubfish pair · 04/14/2012, 10:02 PM

will there be one?

andywe · 04/15/2012, 02:38 PM

No. Kinda pointless since your vortech comes with it's own. Most people wont bother with one if it did exist.

James77 · 04/15/2012, 03:26 PM

They had stated this on their support forum:

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Originally Posted by Digital Aquatics

The short answer is that the ReefKeeper controllers do not support this interface and as of the time of this posting there is no Vortech compatible module in the pipeline.

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Originally Posted by andywe

No. Kinda pointless since your vortech comes with it's own. Most people wont bother with one if it did exist.

I would not call it pointless. There are quite a few people on their forum and here that ask for one. Using a 3rd party controller can add further possibilities to Vortechs, like having several different flow modes throughout the day or integrate it with other equipment. Three other controller companies offer Vortech control, and the modules are far from being a flop.

atreis · 04/16/2012, 04:04 PM

Agreed - I'd also add the advantage in simplifying to a single controller for everything. I'd buy it (along with a controller for controllable Koralia pumps - I have both).

septicdeath · 05/03/2012, 01:27 PM

wow, what a deal breaker. Even the angel has this control. DA should seriously reconsider this. In a typical day, my vortech's change their flow and programing 20 times. With all our (including me) problems with the Apex, I thought I would take a look. Guess the proflux is the only choice other than a angel.

Bongo Shrimp · 05/03/2012, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by septicdeath

wow, what a deal breaker. Even the angel has this control. DA should seriously reconsider this. In a typical day, my vortech's change their flow and programing 20 times. With all our (including me) problems with the Apex, I thought I would take a look. Guess the proflux is the only choice other than a angel.

Very true. I am going to be getting rid of my RKE because of this and especially because of the new life support thing not being compatible with the RKE. It's frankly disappointing.

Allmost · 05/03/2012, 03:28 PM

I placed my RKE in my closet, and never looked back after finding out the SL1 ports are not Isolated.

as an EE, this is laughable ... I am even ashamed to sell this thing ...

profelux doesnt do much , but its good, Im looking forward to vertex ones.

yachtdr22 · 05/15/2012, 04:18 PM

Okedokee,
Official word from DA...

e: Controller for Vortech Pumps?
by DaveMorris » Mon May 14, 2012 8:42 pm

There are several threads on this forum that address this. No they do not currently have one and no plans have been announced to make one. If they do decide to make a Vortech control module, they will announce it here and/or on their Facebook page.

DaveMorris · 05/28/2012, 03:40 PM

Just to set the record straight...I do not work for DA. In the post above I was only stating what has been stated numerous times by DA themselves in response to this question.

Daniel716 · 11/09/2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Allmost

I placed my RKE in my closet, and never looked back after finding out the SL1 ports are not Isolated.

as an EE, this is laughable ... I am even ashamed to sell this thing ...

profelux doesn't do much , but its good, Im looking forward to vertex ones.

I know this is an old post but true and important.. I was one of the first 50 or so preorders... (I have been dealing with these liars from the beginning).

I had this problem from the very start and they denied it all the way thru..
After a reactor disaster because of this bug I went to my old Milwaukee standby
And got on the phone with one of Milwaukee's engineers who walked me thru a few simple tests that revealed how bad they designed their system... I am one of the SL2 users waiting for a solution.. I have lost track of how long....

Bottom line.. Stay away from DA period. They are NOT an honest company. Can't comment on other systems yet as I just started researching them. No more madness with this crazy company!

As for "team DA" Really? have anyone EVER seen them say anything objective?

reefish123 · 11/09/2012, 02:55 PM

wow whats with the beef?

Daniel716 · 11/09/2012, 03:01 PM

Yea I know... I had to vent.. I have spent a boatload of money and have been dealing with these clowns since the beginning and its just very frustrating...

I have decided to switch.. just don't know where to yet.

DaveMorris · 11/09/2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel716

As for "team DA" Really? have anyone EVER seen them say anything objective?

By objective, what exactly do you mean? Would you feel better if we were to bad mouth the company once in a while to show how "objective" we are? The users that are a part of TeamDA are exactly that, USERS. While I will not speak for the others as to why they have chosen to be TeamDA members, I do this because I enjoy helping people get their questions answered. The RKE system that I bought was a part of the first ones sold and I have no complaints. If you have had problems with your system, that is unfortunate. For me, the fact that the SL1 probes are not isolated has caused me no problems. I use a ph probe as well as an ORP probe and I have never experienced any problems with either faulty readings or interferance. Maybe I just got lucky.

I see no reason to bad mouth TeamDA members for trying to help people just because you aren't happy with the DA product. We don't work for them, we just use their products. I hope you do find a controller that you are happy with.

Daniel716 · 11/11/2012, 04:56 PM

I am not really bad mouthing you.. I am just saying the DA-team is always biased.... maybe you should be..I know I would not be... People are just mad because DA seems to have plenty of time for other things besides fixing bugs in their first system
example: https://www.store.sero-systems.com/p....php?pid2.html

Launch a completely new product-line/company while the junk they sold me sits unable to be used... This naturally generates a level of frustration no?

I realize that all products can have problems but their level of communication is a -5 on a scale of 1-10

Why not offer a refund to all that want one on the SL2? They screwed it up they should own it... instead they lie about defects until they cannot lie anymore and string along their customers for YEARS! Did I type YEARS?

I have no problem with team da as I have seen you guys help alot of people on their forum... Thats cool but unfortunately it makes you APPEAR to support a very horrible company by defending it...
You have your opinion/// I have mine...(plus a sl2 paper weight

)

DaveMorris · 11/12/2012, 07:07 AM

Well I am a big boy and I can certainly take the criticism. As far as refunds or anything like that, obviously that is for them to address. I do agree that I am biased, but that is also why I never comment on other controllers beyond the knowledge that I personaly have with them. I'm not sure I agree with your statement "instead they lie about defects until they cannot lie anymore and string along their customers". I don't think they have lied at all. They have been trying to get it fixed and it is taking too long. While I don't know what is involved with redesigning the probe and/or the SL2, I am sure that they aren't going to put every one of their employees on just that one project. None of us even knows the make up of the company. It may be a completely different group that is dealing with new products.

I like the DA controllers that I have. They have performed for me the way I need them to and that is all I care about. If I can help other people with theirs, then I do. I do not think the company has handled the SL2 issue very well at all, but that is for them to deal with. I disagree with the people who think DA has just blown off the issues and customers needs. I believe that DA will make good on this. If not, then the market of us reefers will certainly react accordingly, as many already have.

yachtdr22 · 11/12/2012, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel716

Yea I know... I had to vent.. I have spent a boatload of money and have been dealing with these clowns since the beginning and its just very frustrating...

I have decided to switch.. just don't know where to yet.

My RKE is in a box in the closet as well..
I went with the Neptune Apex system and have not looked back!
The apex works GREAT with my 2 Vortex 40's. I have the apex set to change up the programming 3x a day..

Drew

Daniel716 · 11/12/2012, 06:36 PM

Yes, the apex is at the top of my list... The German stuff is a bit pricey....

GusDiaz · 11/16/2012, 01:16 PM

I agree. I also made the change to Apex from DA. Better product and no problems with the modules.

I guess that the people that are still waiting for DA to make a change will realize that they might have to wait for some time...

04/14/2012, 10:02 PM	#1
cherubfish pair Sasquatch hunter Join Date: May 2004 Location: MONTANA - - Big Sky Country Posts: 6,100 Blog Entries: 1	vortech controller? will there be one? __________________ Are we having fun yet? Are we having fun yet? Are we having fun yet? I'm a card-carrying member of the Weekend Water-changing Warriors! Current Tank Info: Nano -> 50G in a health food store. (upgrade)

04/16/2012, 04:04 PM	#4
atreis Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yellow Springs, OH Posts: 708	Agreed - I'd also add the advantage in simplifying to a single controller for everything. I'd buy it (along with a controller for controllable Koralia pumps - I have both). __________________ reef tank up since 8/2009. Previous tank up since 4/2004, taken down in 2007. Current Tank Info: custom 100g reef, custom sump

05/03/2012, 03:28 PM	#7
Allmost Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: canada, toronto Posts: 6,181	I placed my RKE in my closet, and never looked back after finding out the SL1 ports are not Isolated. as an EE, this is laughable ... I am even ashamed to sell this thing ... profelux doesnt do much , but its good, Im looking forward to vertex ones. __________________ Current tank : 200 Gallon SPS tank. ... Zeovit powered 35 G seahorse tank... bacterioplankton 60 G Cube NPS tank ..... bacterioplankton 65G soft coral tank.

05/15/2012, 04:18 PM	#8
yachtdr22 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: corpus christi, tx Posts: 258	Okedokee, Official word from DA... e: Controller for Vortech Pumps? by DaveMorris » Mon May 14, 2012 8:42 pm There are several threads on this forum that address this. No they do not currently have one and no plans have been announced to make one. If they do decide to make a Vortech control module, they will announce it here and/or on their Facebook page. __________________ 125 Mixed Reef, 30 gal sump w/LR, SWC 160 Skimmer, Dual GFO /Carbon Reactor, GEO 618 Ca Reactor. 2) MP40ES, Apex Controller. Lights; 48) Cool White, 48) Royal Blue 6) Violet UV, 4) Green, 4) Red and 4) Royal Blue Moonlight LEDs

05/28/2012, 03:40 PM	#9
DaveMorris Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lemon Grove, CA Posts: 1,529	Just to set the record straight...I do not work for DA. In the post above I was only stating what has been stated numerous times by DA themselves in response to this question. __________________ Dave Current Tank Info: 300g Starphire, 100g sump, 60g refugium, (2)GenX40 return pumps, 5000gph CL w/OM 4way, 400w & 250w MH, T5 actinics

04/15/2012, 02:38 PM	#2
andywe Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mt Juliet, TN Posts: 2,561	No. Kinda pointless since your vortech comes with it's own. Most people wont bother with one if it did exist.

05/03/2012, 01:27 PM	#5
septicdeath Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 167	wow, what a deal breaker. Even the angel has this control. DA should seriously reconsider this. In a typical day, my vortech's change their flow and programing 20 times. With all our (including me) problems with the Apex, I thought I would take a look. Guess the proflux is the only choice other than a angel.

11/09/2012, 02:55 PM	#11
reefish123 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: So Cal Posts: 419	wow whats with the beef?

11/09/2012, 03:01 PM	#12
Daniel716 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canton, MI Posts: 196	Yea I know... I had to vent.. I have spent a boatload of money and have been dealing with these clowns since the beginning and its just very frustrating... I have decided to switch.. just don't know where to yet.

11/11/2012, 04:56 PM	#14
Daniel716 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canton, MI Posts: 196	I am not really bad mouthing you.. I am just saying the DA-team is always biased.... maybe you should be..I know I would not be... People are just mad because DA seems to have plenty of time for other things besides fixing bugs in their first system example: https://www.store.sero-systems.com/p....php?pid2.html Launch a completely new product-line/company while the junk they sold me sits unable to be used... This naturally generates a level of frustration no? I realize that all products can have problems but their level of communication is a -5 on a scale of 1-10 Why not offer a refund to all that want one on the SL2? They screwed it up they should own it... instead they lie about defects until they cannot lie anymore and string along their customers for YEARS! Did I type YEARS? I have no problem with team da as I have seen you guys help alot of people on their forum... Thats cool but unfortunately it makes you APPEAR to support a very horrible company by defending it... You have your opinion/// I have mine...(plus a sl2 paper weight)

11/12/2012, 07:07 AM	#15
DaveMorris Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lemon Grove, CA Posts: 1,529	Well I am a big boy and I can certainly take the criticism. As far as refunds or anything like that, obviously that is for them to address. I do agree that I am biased, but that is also why I never comment on other controllers beyond the knowledge that I personaly have with them. I'm not sure I agree with your statement "instead they lie about defects until they cannot lie anymore and string along their customers". I don't think they have lied at all. They have been trying to get it fixed and it is taking too long. While I don't know what is involved with redesigning the probe and/or the SL2, I am sure that they aren't going to put every one of their employees on just that one project. None of us even knows the make up of the company. It may be a completely different group that is dealing with new products. I like the DA controllers that I have. They have performed for me the way I need them to and that is all I care about. If I can help other people with theirs, then I do. I do not think the company has handled the SL2 issue very well at all, but that is for them to deal with. I disagree with the people who think DA has just blown off the issues and customers needs. I believe that DA will make good on this. If not, then the market of us reefers will certainly react accordingly, as many already have. __________________ Dave Current Tank Info: 300g Starphire, 100g sump, 60g refugium, (2)GenX40 return pumps, 5000gph CL w/OM 4way, 400w & 250w MH, T5 actinics

11/12/2012, 06:36 PM	#17
Daniel716 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canton, MI Posts: 196	Yes, the apex is at the top of my list... The German stuff is a bit pricey....

11/16/2012, 01:16 PM	#18
GusDiaz Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 85	I agree. I also made the change to Apex from DA. Better product and no problems with the modules. I guess that the people that are still waiting for DA to make a change will realize that they might have to wait for some time... __________________ 155 Gallon Bow Front, Avast Marine Black Pearl Protein Skimmer, Vertex RX6 Duo Calcium Reactor, Avast Ozone Reactor, Neptune System Apex, 12 Modules Mazarra P LED, Mag-24 return pump Current Tank Info: 155 Gallon Reef Tank & 30 Gallon Sump Last edited by GusDiaz; 11/16/2012 at 01:40 PM.