Help with Wrass ID.

maroun.c · 06/13/2012, 12:46 AM

I added the following 3 wrasses to my tank last week and trying to confirm the ID on them:

I'm wonedering between:
Paracheilinus lineopunctatus -Linespot flasher wrass
Paracheilinus filamentosus -filamented flasher wrass
for the first two
and the 3rd one I believe is a female of either of them???
Thanks for any help

reefjunkie42 · 06/13/2012, 01:22 AM

Two male filamented and it also looks like a female to follow.

reefjunkie42 · 06/13/2012, 01:24 AM

Is 1 male bigger than the other, are they fighting?, I have a theory that if a female turns male in the presence of another male, the original male WILL tolerate him , jme

maroun.c · 06/13/2012, 01:42 AM

Thanks for the help.
I thought they were different due to one having 2 filaments and the other having more than 5? does this mean it'll have more filaments with time?
I bought them as is couple of months back and they tolerated each other in Q tank for more than 2 months with no signs of aggression. they just went in my 390 g tank and haven't seen them fight at all. I expected a huge fight with the yellow fin wrass but he totally ignored them.
so far my wrass list is:
yellow finned wrass
couple of Lubbocks
Leopard wrass (Biparitus)
Solorensis
1 yellow cories
and the 3 filamented wrasses I just added.
So you think I should take out one of the males filamented wrasses? is it safe to add anymore wrasses?
Thanks for the help.

G4546 · 06/13/2012, 02:06 AM

A wrasse fan are we?

Me too

Beautiful new additions

reefjunkie42 · 06/13/2012, 11:27 AM

in 390 you will have no problems. right now i have over 20 wrasse in my 200. they all peacefully coexist. I would however stop buying wrasse you cant ID from the get go. KNOW what fish your buying, because there are some that will make you hate life. thats my best suggestions. I would stick with fairy and flashers because you seem to have a good mix going already.id stay away from scotts fairys,some say pylei(personally mine was a gem and model citizen) mystery, and sixlines. Also some of the less expensive fairies in the rublimivinus complex are very aggressive toward other faires so Id watch out, same goes for flavidornus complex..(Sorry for the spelling, my brain is fried after the week Ive had..)

sTefaniA · 06/13/2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by reefjunkie42

in 390 you will have no problems. right now i have over 20 wrasse in my 200. they all peacefully coexist. I would however stop buying wrasse you cant ID from the get go. KNOW what fish your buying, because there are some that will make you hate life. thats my best suggestions. I would stick with fairy and flashers because you seem to have a good mix going already.id stay away from scotts fairys,some say pylei(personally mine was a gem and model citizen) mystery, and sixlines. Also some of the less expensive fairies in the rublimivinus complex are very aggressive toward other faires so Id watch out, same goes for flavidornus complex..(Sorry for the spelling, my brain is fried after the week Ive had..)

My pylei's are very agressive, I have them in a 500g and I hate them so much

For weeks I've been trying to catch them, no luck so far. They are banned forever once I get them out.

reefjunkie42 · 06/13/2012, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTefaniA

My pylei's are very agressive, I have them in a 500g and I hate them so much

For weeks I've been trying to catch them, no luck so far. They are banned forever once I get them out.

See this is exactly what Im talking about. I Do agree they are overall aggessive,but mine werent. Can I ask you what variant you have? Cebu or Vanuatu

maroun.c · 06/13/2012, 11:33 PM

Thanks for the info. Good to know I can still add a few more fairy and flashers.
I was considering adding a yellow tail Tamarin and few more leopards would that still work? So far the solorensis and leopard I got totally disregard and are disregarded by all the wrasses I have. The whip fin fairy wrass which acted a bit aggressive upon introduction only attacked Lubbocks initially and some other small fish for few weeks now it's very rare to see any aggression. It never went after the leopard. And totally disregarded the 3 new additions. The lubbocks was a bit aggressive to them the first two days which was weird when the alpha male in the tank is the whip fin.

reefjunkie42 · 06/14/2012, 12:01 PM

the whip fin is aggressive and will most likely become moreso with age

sTefaniA · 06/14/2012, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefjunkie42

See this is exactly what Im talking about. I Do agree they are overall aggessive,but mine werent. Can I ask you what variant you have? Cebu or Vanuatu

Vanuatu. I just caught the male today. The female I already caught a few days ago, she's really agressive.
She beats up fish twice her size and almost killed my jordani male.

It was either them or my halichoeres rubricephalus pair, easy choice...

reefjunkie42 · 06/15/2012, 12:43 AM

nice im glad you got them out

06/13/2012, 12:46 AM	#1
maroun.c Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Lebanon Posts: 5,669	Help with Wrass ID. I added the following 3 wrasses to my tank last week and trying to confirm the ID on them: I'm wonedering between: Paracheilinus lineopunctatus -Linespot flasher wrass Paracheilinus filamentosus -filamented flasher wrass for the first two and the 3rd one I believe is a female of either of them??? Thanks for any help __________________ 390 G mixed reef build Current Tank Info: 390G mixed reef

06/13/2012, 01:22 AM	#2
reefjunkie42 Wrasse junkie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: endwell Posts: 2,200	Two male filamented and it also looks like a female to follow. __________________ 200 gallon Reef, Temp 78.1, Ph 8.1, Sg. 1.024 Calcium, 420, Mag 1200,Nitrate 0, ammonia 0 ..Apex,VDM,WXM, Aquailluminations x 3, SRO XP 3000SSS, Vortech MP 40 es W, Ebo-Jager 200w x2, Genesis reef ATO KINGDOM, PHYLEM,CLASS,ORDER,FAMILY,GENUS,SPECIES Current Tank Info: 200 gal reef tank. 4 vortech mp40's, reef octo 3000sss, apex,geo calc reactor....

06/13/2012, 01:24 AM	#3
reefjunkie42 Wrasse junkie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: endwell Posts: 2,200	Is 1 male bigger than the other, are they fighting?, I have a theory that if a female turns male in the presence of another male, the original male WILL tolerate him , jme __________________ 200 gallon Reef, Temp 78.1, Ph 8.1, Sg. 1.024 Calcium, 420, Mag 1200,Nitrate 0, ammonia 0 ..Apex,VDM,WXM, Aquailluminations x 3, SRO XP 3000SSS, Vortech MP 40 es W, Ebo-Jager 200w x2, Genesis reef ATO KINGDOM, PHYLEM,CLASS,ORDER,FAMILY,GENUS,SPECIES Current Tank Info: 200 gal reef tank. 4 vortech mp40's, reef octo 3000sss, apex,geo calc reactor....

06/13/2012, 01:42 AM	#4
maroun.c Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Lebanon Posts: 5,669	Thanks for the help. I thought they were different due to one having 2 filaments and the other having more than 5? does this mean it'll have more filaments with time? I bought them as is couple of months back and they tolerated each other in Q tank for more than 2 months with no signs of aggression. they just went in my 390 g tank and haven't seen them fight at all. I expected a huge fight with the yellow fin wrass but he totally ignored them. so far my wrass list is: yellow finned wrass couple of Lubbocks Leopard wrass (Biparitus) Solorensis 1 yellow cories and the 3 filamented wrasses I just added. So you think I should take out one of the males filamented wrasses? is it safe to add anymore wrasses? Thanks for the help. __________________ 390 G mixed reef build Current Tank Info: 390G mixed reef

06/13/2012, 02:06 AM	#5
G4546 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Central, FL Posts: 390	A wrasse fan are we? Me too Beautiful new additions __________________ Blood is thicker than liquor, both of which get in my way.

06/13/2012, 11:27 AM	#6
reefjunkie42 Wrasse junkie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: endwell Posts: 2,200	in 390 you will have no problems. right now i have over 20 wrasse in my 200. they all peacefully coexist. I would however stop buying wrasse you cant ID from the get go. KNOW what fish your buying, because there are some that will make you hate life. thats my best suggestions. I would stick with fairy and flashers because you seem to have a good mix going already.id stay away from scotts fairys,some say pylei(personally mine was a gem and model citizen) mystery, and sixlines. Also some of the less expensive fairies in the rublimivinus complex are very aggressive toward other faires so Id watch out, same goes for flavidornus complex..(Sorry for the spelling, my brain is fried after the week Ive had..) __________________ 200 gallon Reef, Temp 78.1, Ph 8.1, Sg. 1.024 Calcium, 420, Mag 1200,Nitrate 0, ammonia 0 ..Apex,VDM,WXM, Aquailluminations x 3, SRO XP 3000SSS, Vortech MP 40 es W, Ebo-Jager 200w x2, Genesis reef ATO KINGDOM, PHYLEM,CLASS,ORDER,FAMILY,GENUS,SPECIES Current Tank Info: 200 gal reef tank. 4 vortech mp40's, reef octo 3000sss, apex,geo calc reactor....

06/13/2012, 11:33 PM	#9
maroun.c Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Lebanon Posts: 5,669	Thanks for the info. Good to know I can still add a few more fairy and flashers. I was considering adding a yellow tail Tamarin and few more leopards would that still work? So far the solorensis and leopard I got totally disregard and are disregarded by all the wrasses I have. The whip fin fairy wrass which acted a bit aggressive upon introduction only attacked Lubbocks initially and some other small fish for few weeks now it's very rare to see any aggression. It never went after the leopard. And totally disregarded the 3 new additions. The lubbocks was a bit aggressive to them the first two days which was weird when the alpha male in the tank is the whip fin. __________________ 390 G mixed reef build Current Tank Info: 390G mixed reef

06/14/2012, 12:01 PM	#10
reefjunkie42 Wrasse junkie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: endwell Posts: 2,200	the whip fin is aggressive and will most likely become moreso with age __________________ 200 gallon Reef, Temp 78.1, Ph 8.1, Sg. 1.024 Calcium, 420, Mag 1200,Nitrate 0, ammonia 0 ..Apex,VDM,WXM, Aquailluminations x 3, SRO XP 3000SSS, Vortech MP 40 es W, Ebo-Jager 200w x2, Genesis reef ATO KINGDOM, PHYLEM,CLASS,ORDER,FAMILY,GENUS,SPECIES Current Tank Info: 200 gal reef tank. 4 vortech mp40's, reef octo 3000sss, apex,geo calc reactor....

06/15/2012, 12:43 AM	#12
reefjunkie42 Wrasse junkie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: endwell Posts: 2,200	nice im glad you got them out __________________ 200 gallon Reef, Temp 78.1, Ph 8.1, Sg. 1.024 Calcium, 420, Mag 1200,Nitrate 0, ammonia 0 ..Apex,VDM,WXM, Aquailluminations x 3, SRO XP 3000SSS, Vortech MP 40 es W, Ebo-Jager 200w x2, Genesis reef ATO KINGDOM, PHYLEM,CLASS,ORDER,FAMILY,GENUS,SPECIES Current Tank Info: 200 gal reef tank. 4 vortech mp40's, reef octo 3000sss, apex,geo calc reactor....