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Old 08/31/2012, 11:50 PM   #1
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250w Metal halide?

http://www.amazon.com/4x24w-Aquarium...lide+reef+tank

Anyone ever used these? I'm wanting to use two on a 75 gallon tank. I am going to be getting a bubbletip anenome soon and some corals later on. If these won't work, does anyone have suggestions for lighting? Thanks


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Old 09/01/2012, 08:45 AM   #2
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It looks like an Odyssea brand, the cheapest, crappiest fixture you can buy, it is a Chinese import. There is no warranty listed because there is no real warranty. If the light dies in a month you get to buy it all over again. The bulbs in it are not very good, the reflectors in it are not very good and the ballast that powers everything is not very good and the wiring inside is not up to standards. It will work, right up to the moment it doesn't, the problem is you never know how long that will be, could be a few years, could be a few weeks.

A well built and safe fixture does not cost 145 bucks and those cheap ones are always a gamble. Look for a Geismann, AquaMedic or Hamilton brand fixture.


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Old 09/01/2012, 09:21 AM   #3
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It looks like an Odyssea brand, the cheapest, crappiest fixture you can buy, it is a Chinese import. There is no warranty listed because there is no real warranty. If the light dies in a month you get to buy it all over again. The bulbs in it are not very good, the reflectors in it are not very good and the ballast that powers everything is not very good and the wiring inside is not up to standards. It will work, right up to the moment it doesn't, the problem is you never know how long that will be, could be a few years, could be a few weeks.

A well built and safe fixture does not cost 145 bucks and those cheap ones are always a gamble. Look for a Geismann, AquaMedic or Hamilton brand fixture.


How about a coralife? I've used them before and liked them. Is 3.5 Watts per gallon good enough, or do I need 5-6 wpg?


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Old 09/01/2012, 09:28 AM   #4
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Coralife is a little better, forget wpg, it doesn't apply. It is ok to buy used if the fixture is a quality one, it will serve you well. The three brands I listed have been the most durable and safe over the years, and they have an actual warranty should something happen. The good news is with all of the people going to LED you can pick up a quality fixture for cheap these days. There is no reason to buy a cheaply made fixture. Don't skimp on lighting, it is one of the main parts of a successful reef. You need a total of 50 meaningful posts to see the for sale section, so you are halfway there. :-)


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Old 09/01/2012, 09:30 AM   #5
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I think you'd be better off going with a couple of those 120W Chinese LED's.


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Old 09/01/2012, 10:50 AM   #6
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Go to the for sal forums. Lots of great deals on metal halide stuff.


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Old 09/01/2012, 02:15 PM   #7
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I'm trying to buy it from amazon since I have a credit card with them. Lighting is confusing thats for sure!


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Old 09/01/2012, 03:36 PM   #8
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it looks like an odyssea brand, the cheapest, crappiest fixture you can buy, it is a chinese import. There is no warranty listed because there is no real warranty. If the light dies in a month you get to buy it all over again. The bulbs in it are not very good, the reflectors in it are not very good and the ballast that powers everything is not very good and the wiring inside is not up to standards. It will work, right up to the moment it doesn't, the problem is you never know how long that will be, could be a few years, could be a few weeks.

A well built and safe fixture does not cost 145 bucks and those cheap ones are always a gamble. Look for a geismann, aquamedic or hamilton brand fixture.
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Old 09/01/2012, 03:51 PM   #9
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Metal halide

I have used them, they worked but got really hot! I would just spend more and get better quality.


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Old 09/01/2012, 05:05 PM   #10
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I'm trying to buy it from amazon since I have a credit card with them. Lighting is confusing thats for sure!
If you have to stay with Amazon, here's a possibility:

http://www.amazon.com/Watt-Aquarium-..._sim_sbs_lg_14

If you have a 4ft tank I'd go with two units, and dim them to your needs.


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Old 09/01/2012, 05:39 PM   #11
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If you have to stay with Amazon, here's a possibility:

http://www.amazon.com/Watt-Aquarium-..._sim_sbs_lg_14

If you have a 4ft tank I'd go with two units, and dim them to your needs.

Ok, those look good, it is a 4ft tank. However, is there anyway to sit them on the tank instead of hanging them? I don't have anyway to hang them above the tank


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Old 09/01/2012, 08:28 PM   #12
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Check the for sale section here, or Craigslist. I just picked up a 2X250 PFO complete with bulbs for $120. Be paitent and keep your eyes and your mind open, this hobby isnt cheep but that doesnt mean it has to be that darn expensive.


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Old 09/02/2012, 06:26 AM   #13
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Ok, those look good, it is a 4ft tank. However, is there anyway to sit them on the tank instead of hanging them? I don't have anyway to hang them above the tank
Here's a possibility:

http://www.amazon.com/Current-USA-Ha..._petsupplies_3

Or, you could just go to Lowes or HD and buy some 1/2" conduit, a few pipe straps and do a DIY.


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Old 09/02/2012, 10:12 AM   #14
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Here is a good link to make your own light hanger

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2009-04/diy/index.php



As already stated...you should be able to find a used halide set up cheap...there are so many people changing to Led.....the used market is flooded.


Try your local reef club sales board.


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Old 09/02/2012, 05:58 PM   #15
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I've read mixed reviews on those lights


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Old 09/05/2012, 11:19 AM   #16
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I'm thinking about building a light hanger out of 1 inch pvc pipe. Good idea or no?


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