Mixing haddoni and h. Mag?

cichlidconvert · 03/04/2013, 05:53 PM

I'm adding a 45 gallon tank to my well established system ( over 1 year old) and wanted to put either a haddoni or a h. Mag or if it is dumb... both. I know that by not overfeeding I can avoid huge size issues but a 45 seems tight. My reasoning is they hang out at different levels in the tank. And would aleopathy be a problem with 120 total volume and running chemi-pure/ carbon?

bradleym · 03/04/2013, 07:46 PM

In a tank that small, you may run into trouble getting light down to the Haddoni with the Mag up top. I have both in a 210 with no chemical issues so that part will likely be fine.

ct_vol · 03/04/2013, 09:38 PM

I would think your trouble would be in providing ideal habitat for both in a tank that small. Mags love to be blasted with light and flow, where as haddonis do better in less flow... Just my thoughts.

RossRalliart · 03/04/2013, 10:32 PM

Too much risk for both anemones in such small water volume, my opinion.

cichlidconvert · 03/05/2013, 12:12 AM

Thank you for talking me down off that ledge

I know better than to put two in a 45. I'm just gonna pick one and make it all about the one and get a group of juvenile clowns. I think it would be cool as all get out. I have a 250mh for the 45. That should be enough for either. Well I can't wait to get the new tank up and running

bradleym · 03/05/2013, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cichlidconvert

I'm just gonna pick one and make it all about the one and get a group of juvenile clowns. I think it would be cool as all get out.

There's no room to hide in a 45g. I hope you have somewhere bigger to put them when they start to pair off.

cichlidconvert · 03/05/2013, 09:02 AM

I have seen others that were successful at keeping groups of clowns when grouped together while still young. But if thats the exeption and not the rule then I won't do it. I'm not smarter than mother nature I just thought its been done. I just wanted to recreate what I see in pics from the wild. I have kept carpets successfully and bta's along with 8 different kinds of Coldwater nems. (in a Coldwater setup of course) I'm just wanting to do a species specific setup and don't want a tank of death. I don't have other places to put them once they pair off other than the lfs.

SNAKEMANVET · 03/05/2013, 09:10 AM

I tried the group of juvies and it didn't last long,as soon as two of them paired up,they chased all the others.Some have done it,but I will not try it again.

cichlidconvert · 03/12/2013, 02:40 AM

Ok new question. I was contacted by a local who has two beautiful gigs. One lime green and one royal blue. And I mean stunning! 12-14 inches across I want to put them in this tank and make them the only things in there other than a pair of clowns and something that eats algae. I don't need to worry. Right? The Nems have been with this guy for two months and no deflating amazing color and sticky and it's a 30 min drive to get the here. It sounds too good to be true. Except the price tag

but I think it ought to be ok. As long as I wait to get them until after linking the systems. The seller is ok with this

Also is 250w and 108 watts actinic ok. It's 24" deep with a 4" sanded. Will I need to place them high. I know mags love to get right up there but i see gigs lower down and wonder if I need to make their perches low or high? Sorry I keep lotsa nems but never a mag.

SNAKEMANVET · 03/12/2013, 05:33 AM

Your lighting should be fine,sounds like a great deal to get 2 establish gigs.

03/04/2013, 05:53 PM	#1
cichlidconvert Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 739	Mixing haddoni and h. Mag? I'm adding a 45 gallon tank to my well established system ( over 1 year old) and wanted to put either a haddoni or a h. Mag or if it is dumb... both. I know that by not overfeeding I can avoid huge size issues but a 45 seems tight. My reasoning is they hang out at different levels in the tank. And would aleopathy be a problem with 120 total volume and running chemi-pure/ carbon? __________________ Mixed reef tastes on a neon tetra budget

03/04/2013, 07:46 PM	#2
bradleym Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Shrewsbury/St. Louis, Mo Posts: 3,878	In a tank that small, you may run into trouble getting light down to the Haddoni with the Mag up top. I have both in a 210 with no chemical issues so that part will likely be fine. __________________ Happy reefing means sometimes you just have to go with the flow. Current Tank Info: 92g corner round. No sand, lots of mushrooms.

03/04/2013, 09:38 PM	#3
ct_vol Reefing On My Mind Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kempton, IL Posts: 8,083	I would think your trouble would be in providing ideal habitat for both in a tank that small. Mags love to be blasted with light and flow, where as haddonis do better in less flow... Just my thoughts. __________________ Randy Volunteers, Blackhawks, Titans, Cubs!!!! Current Tank Info: 185g waiting to be built, 120g SPS/Anemone Reef, 120g SCA in the works, 58g mixed reef w/ 6x39w T5, 125g grow out w/ Reef Breeders

03/05/2013, 12:12 AM	#5
cichlidconvert Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 739	Thank you for talking me down off that ledge I know better than to put two in a 45. I'm just gonna pick one and make it all about the one and get a group of juvenile clowns. I think it would be cool as all get out. I have a 250mh for the 45. That should be enough for either. Well I can't wait to get the new tank up and running __________________ Mixed reef tastes on a neon tetra budget

03/05/2013, 09:02 AM	#7
cichlidconvert Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 739	I have seen others that were successful at keeping groups of clowns when grouped together while still young. But if thats the exeption and not the rule then I won't do it. I'm not smarter than mother nature I just thought its been done. I just wanted to recreate what I see in pics from the wild. I have kept carpets successfully and bta's along with 8 different kinds of Coldwater nems. (in a Coldwater setup of course) I'm just wanting to do a species specific setup and don't want a tank of death. I don't have other places to put them once they pair off other than the lfs. __________________ Mixed reef tastes on a neon tetra budget

03/04/2013, 10:32 PM	#4
RossRalliart Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 53	Too much risk for both anemones in such small water volume, my opinion.

03/05/2013, 09:10 AM	#8
SNAKEMANVET PREMIUM MEMBER Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: TRENTON Tn Posts: 4,486	I tried the group of juvies and it didn't last long,as soon as two of them paired up,they chased all the others.Some have done it,but I will not try it again.

03/12/2013, 02:40 AM	#9
cichlidconvert Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 739	Ok new question. I was contacted by a local who has two beautiful gigs. One lime green and one royal blue. And I mean stunning! 12-14 inches across I want to put them in this tank and make them the only things in there other than a pair of clowns and something that eats algae. I don't need to worry. Right? The Nems have been with this guy for two months and no deflating amazing color and sticky and it's a 30 min drive to get the here. It sounds too good to be true. Except the price tag but I think it ought to be ok. As long as I wait to get them until after linking the systems. The seller is ok with this Also is 250w and 108 watts actinic ok. It's 24" deep with a 4" sanded. Will I need to place them high. I know mags love to get right up there but i see gigs lower down and wonder if I need to make their perches low or high? Sorry I keep lotsa nems but never a mag. __________________ Mixed reef tastes on a neon tetra budget

03/12/2013, 05:33 AM	#10
SNAKEMANVET PREMIUM MEMBER Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: TRENTON Tn Posts: 4,486	Your lighting should be fine,sounds like a great deal to get 2 establish gigs.