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Old 03/18/2013, 04:38 AM   #1
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ATI Powermodule Hybrid Club

Today I received my new ATI Hybrid's, they are the 8x54w + 3x75w LED versions. To say the least I was excited to find them at my office early in the morning...meaning a long day at work waiting to get home.

Here is the unboxing of the new toy
















next to a standard 8x54w Powermodule


Full review to come, but so far on my tank PAR at the bottom is 590 with all lamps on. Note - brand new T5 bulbs not even gone through wear in period.

If youve had a PM before, this is the same top build quality.

Lamp....well bright, super bright!

I thought the chord on the side would be awkward....its not, acutally prefer it as it doenst tilt the light at all...from the top it would tilt the lamp. The chord is really really thick!

Light on the tank looks almost like a MH/T5 combo light, all the advantages of LED plus the advantages of T5.

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Old 03/18/2013, 04:43 AM   #2
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Did you replace the mitras? I'm thinking about replacing my PAC Sun Led/t5 with either a sunpower or the new model. Can you tell me what size tank you this on?


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Old 03/18/2013, 04:54 AM   #3
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More like " country club." at them prices! lol.


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Old 03/18/2013, 05:01 AM   #4
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More like " country club." at them prices! lol.
8x54 t5/ 3x75 led
is cheaper than 2 GHL mitras.


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Old 03/18/2013, 05:13 AM   #5
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Can't wait for the review Rodneyri.

I want to see the PAR numbers of the LEDs and what they compare to and what you think of them.

Having the mitras already and considering how good they are it will be nice to see how the ATI T5/Led combo competes with the best of the best LEDs.


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Old 03/18/2013, 05:23 AM   #6
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Why didn't you trip over the boxes at work, hurt your knee and hobble home early carrying the goodies - can't believe you stayed at work lol
Seriously though, can you share what it is you are looking for from the hybrid that your T5 only unit wasn't giving you as i'm pretty sure you didn't pay that much just for shimmer. I'd buy one in a heartbeat btw if i was wealthier but unfortunately this is as close as i'll ever get to one so i look forward to your updates.


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Old 03/18/2013, 05:26 AM   #7
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Yep changing to this light from Mitras, I change lights more than I change my underwear lol Im addicted to the new toys lol Will be going over my 1400x750x500 now til the 2400 comes. These are units in mm

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They arent cheap but I did get an extremely good price on them

Mike-
Yeah it was cheaper than 2 Mitras, but they are very different beasts...I will be changing globes again, and there is the heat from T5 that LED doesnt put off...but damn they are bright. And yes you can see shimmer with the 8 T5 bulbs on!

Will do a review and vid in a couple of days


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Old 03/18/2013, 07:14 AM   #8
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So the 60" 8x80w with led would be perfect on my 72x36x28 I have noticed that you change lighting a lot....this hobby will drive you crazy with new toys.

Looking forward to updates and videos!!!


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Old 03/18/2013, 07:33 AM   #9
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Did you replace the mitras? I'm thinking about replacing my PAC Sun Led/t5 with either a sunpower or the new model. Can you tell me what size tank you this on?


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not happy with with Pac Sun?

Also Rodney, thought you were lovin' the Mitras? What made you make the change?


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Old 03/18/2013, 07:39 AM   #10
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Sorry Rodneyri....not trying to derail your thread. Like Rodneyri I like to try new toys when they come out. I always had T5's before I got the Pac Sun which is 4x150w led's and 4x80w T5's. I like the idea of having more t5's than leds.


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Old 03/18/2013, 11:43 AM   #11
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Great looking fixture! Now I just need to figure out how I can rig some LEDs into my 10x54w powermodule.


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Old 03/18/2013, 11:52 AM   #12
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Great looking fixture!


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Old 03/18/2013, 11:58 AM   #13
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Can't wait for the review Rodneyri.

I want to see the PAR numbers of the LEDs and what they compare to and what you think of them.

Having the mitras already and considering how good they are it will be nice to see how the ATI T5/Led combo competes with the best of the best LEDs.
Well considering the original powermdoule with 10x54 is a par monster, I can only think this will have some of the same numbers if not higher.


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Old 03/18/2013, 10:30 PM   #14
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How's the programming interface for the fixture?


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Old 03/20/2013, 06:40 PM   #15
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Question: I'm currently building a 66"l x 26"w x 24"h aquarium and am torn between the 60" 4 bulb and 8 bulb. SPS dominant.

I'll be doing a bean internal overflow, so the usable area inside the aquarium just got smaller by 3.75". The 8 bulb is 20.5" wide and the 4 bulb is 12" wide.

I have 21.25" usable inches to work with and worry about light spilling outside the aquarium. Should this be a concern?

Wishing there was a 6 bulb.

Thoughts? Thanks in advance?


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Old 03/20/2013, 07:06 PM   #16
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I would get the 8 bulb. For a tank that's 26" wide.

Then again you might be able to get by with a 4 bulb since the LEDs should give a nice punch.


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Old 03/20/2013, 07:35 PM   #17
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How long did you run the mitras anyway?


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Old 03/20/2013, 11:27 PM   #18
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So many queries on why the change, I always read about LED/T5 being the ultimate lighting combo so I had to try it out, I like to get new toys too... I update my TV's yearly almost, computers, phones. The Mitras was a really good light, and if I was to go to LED only again the Mitras is the one I would buy, so dont look at my change as a negative to the Mitras - but it will be good to see how a LED/T5 combo works

The software is really basic, you control two banks of 4 T5's and you control each LED cluster individually. Quite simply at a point in time use the sliders to adjust the individual LEDs to the color you like and move to the next time point. Cool feature of the software is it has some ATI bulbs pre-programmed so click that button and the LEDs adjust to the color of the bulb - not sure how accurate but its a nice feature

The LED fans are quite loud, like a MP40 pump when they get going, they speed up and down as needed to cool the LEDs (they run at about 40C), the T5 fans are super quiet. With all this power the lamp does put out some heat.

Color rendering...well what can I say - its a Powermodule on steroids. Its the brightest light I have owned, I will take some more detailed PAR and spectrum readings in the coming weeks when the bulbs have worn in a bit. But at almost 600 PAR on the sandbed its deffinately got some punch!






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Old 03/20/2013, 11:47 PM   #19
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I had no idea that was your tank. I saved a picture of your aquascape to template mine when I did it.


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Old 03/20/2013, 11:56 PM   #20
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yup thats my WIP, its seen better days had a massive ALK swing and lost some good pieces.


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If I only had the money!!


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Old 03/21/2013, 05:55 AM   #22
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Yep changing to this light from Mitras, I change lights more than I change my underwear lol Im addicted to the new toys lol Will be going over my 1400x750x500 now til the 2400 comes.
Hi Rodney,

Will the Mitras be going over the new tank?

Going to make a great comparison, old school against new school.


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Old 03/21/2013, 01:56 PM   #23
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Ill try do some PAR readings on the weekend of the old vs new and put up a comparison photo, will be good to see the difference.


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I'm now looking at that light and can't help but to think it might end up being king of the hill. I would no doubt buy one if they were just a few hundred bucks cheaper. Thats one sexy fixture.


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Old 03/23/2013, 12:03 PM   #25
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Nice clean set up!

Do the T5's wash out the LED shimmer? If not, does the shimmer spread throughout the whole tank, or is it centered more or less directly under the bulbs?

Also, how is the heat? Does it get hot enough that it affects the temperature of the tank?

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