AA in top off water?

mooch1982 · 03/28/2013, 04:59 PM

Any reason not to do this? Anyone actually do this?

It would supply the tank with a continuous diluted form of AA. At least that was the thinking......

disc1 · 03/28/2013, 05:06 PM

You mean Amino acids? Bacteria will probably eat them up in the top off before they ever get to the tank.

sleepydoc · 03/28/2013, 05:37 PM

Maybe it's alcoholics anonymous. He must have a pretty big ATO tank to host a meeting...

mooch1982 · 03/28/2013, 09:05 PM

Haha, yes Amino Acids.

Why would the topoff have bacteria? Top off canister gets replenished every 4 days so I doubt any bacteria colonies grow in that little time. I may be wrong however....

bigfish14 · 03/28/2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepydoc

Maybe it's alcoholics anonymous. He must have a pretty big ATO tank to host a meeting...

I don't know if that is really funny or if I am just really tired, but that made my night

disc1 · 03/28/2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mooch1982

Haha, yes Amino Acids.

Why would the topoff have bacteria?

Bacteria are everywhere. you don't think your top off water is sterile do you?

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Originally Posted by mooch1982

Top off canister gets replenished every 4 days so I doubt any bacteria colonies grow in that little time. I may be wrong however....

You'd be dead wrong. With good conditions and growth media I can saturate a culture in six or eight hours. In your top off water it will be slower than that. Well, unless you add a food source like say amino acids.

bertoni · 03/28/2013, 10:26 PM

I agree that bacteria likely would consume the amino acids fairly quickly. Using Kalkwasser as ATO can prevent that, but it has other issues.

mooch1982 · 03/29/2013, 06:23 AM

Okay thanks guys.

I want to automate Amino dosing. Has anyone tried using a dosing pump to dose daily. I know the Marine Majic pumps (http://www.marinemagic-online.com/ca...40/9377854.htm) can dose by droplet. Setting the timer to come on for 1-3 seconds per day could probably work.

An concerns with doing this?

bertoni · 03/30/2013, 03:57 PM

If the amino acids have a preservative to keep them from decaying, that dosing approach might work. I don't think it'd do much harm if watched carefully. A large overdose is about the only risk.

Touring · 03/30/2013, 07:32 PM

I do it with phytoplankton. Everytime I fill up the ATO water I just put a squeeze fill inside. Coral seem to like it. No issues

03/28/2013, 04:59 PM	#1
mooch1982 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 435	AA in top off water? Any reason not to do this? Anyone actually do this? It would supply the tank with a continuous diluted form of AA. At least that was the thinking......

03/28/2013, 05:06 PM	#2
disc1 -RT * ln(k) Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock Posts: 9,705	You mean Amino acids? Bacteria will probably eat them up in the top off before they ever get to the tank. __________________ David Current Tank: Undergoing reconstruction...

03/28/2013, 05:37 PM	#3
sleepydoc Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 3,907	Maybe it's alcoholics anonymous. He must have a pretty big ATO tank to host a meeting... __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 120 gallon, coast to coast overflow w/beananimal overflow. Waveline DC 10000 II return pump, 40 gal sump, Octopus XS200 skimmer, T5 lighting

03/28/2013, 10:26 PM	#7
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I agree that bacteria likely would consume the amino acids fairly quickly. Using Kalkwasser as ATO can prevent that, but it has other issues. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

03/30/2013, 03:57 PM	#9
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	If the amino acids have a preservative to keep them from decaying, that dosing approach might work. I don't think it'd do much harm if watched carefully. A large overdose is about the only risk. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

03/28/2013, 09:05 PM	#4
mooch1982 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 435	Haha, yes Amino Acids. Why would the topoff have bacteria? Top off canister gets replenished every 4 days so I doubt any bacteria colonies grow in that little time. I may be wrong however....

03/29/2013, 06:23 AM	#8
mooch1982 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 435	Okay thanks guys. I want to automate Amino dosing. Has anyone tried using a dosing pump to dose daily. I know the Marine Majic pumps (http://www.marinemagic-online.com/ca...40/9377854.htm) can dose by droplet. Setting the timer to come on for 1-3 seconds per day could probably work. An concerns with doing this?

03/30/2013, 07:32 PM	#10
Touring Registered Member. Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Panhandle Posts: 724	I do it with phytoplankton. Everytime I fill up the ATO water I just put a squeeze fill inside. Coral seem to like it. No issues